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Old 05-23-2009, 08:08 AM   #1
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NA-RG-57: I simply meant that I agree to the change you suggested.

NA-SL-04: I think that is too specific.

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Hey, guys, I'm trying to make an updated version of the Narn in alliterative verse using the 2nd Narn in Lays of Beleriand as a base, and I was wondering if you'd help criticize my updated/added verses. If you will, should I make a separate thread, or just add them to the discussion here, since this has already become really verse-oriented?
I think that is worth a new thread.

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Old 05-23-2009, 08:34 AM   #2
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NA-SL-04: I think that is too specific.
I agree, but I haven't been able to think of anything better. Maybe Aiwendil has?

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I think that is worth a new thread.

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Okay then.
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Old 05-25-2009, 04:58 PM   #3
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NA-SL-04 is proving quite tricky. I thought of:

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of {Gnomish lords}[scattered wood-men] [overwhelmed] by night {beleaguered}
But I don't think that in Tolkien's idiom 'w' alliterates with 'wh'.

Another possibility is:

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of {Gnomish lords}[Elves and Men] {by night}[at eve] beleaguered
But I'm not sure that 'at eve' makes sense, if the point is that the Orcs took their victims at unawares in the dead of the night.
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Old 05-26-2009, 10:08 AM   #4
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Hey! How about:

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of {Gnomish lords}[scattered woodsmen encircled] by night {beleaguered}
Is that better?
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:14 PM   #5
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The only problem is that, if I recall correctly, Tolkien's alliteration treats 'sc'/'sk' as distinct from 's' or soft 'c' by itself.

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of {Gnomish lords}[Elves and Men] [ambushed] by night {beleaguered}
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Old 05-26-2009, 01:33 PM   #6
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For me the best found so far is:
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of {Gnomish lords}[Elves and Men] {by night}[at eve] beleaguered
But that is just my feeling.

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Old 05-26-2009, 04:35 PM   #7
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The only problem is that, if I recall correctly, Tolkien's alliteration treats 'sc'/'sk' as distinct from 's' or soft 'c' by itself.
I hadn't noticed.

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of {Gnomish lords}[lonely woodsmen] [beleaguered] by night {beleaguered}
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:50 PM   #8
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of {Gnomish lords}[lonely woodsmen] [beleaguered] by night {beleaguered}
That works for me.
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