WWLVIII: Escape From Angband (or Behavioral Modification) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 03-27-2009, 07:04 PM

Oh my...

This is getting much too interesting at exactly the moment I thought I was ready for bed as I need to wake up early...

Darn timezones and Saturday exams!

So I'm not even starting the "why should we believe you as there seem to be a host of special goodies revealing in increasing intervals" -thing. Too late and too little time for it toDay. So looking at the details you Dury give, I'm going to buy it. It looks very believable indeed - like Izzy's case looked like.

Looks like a horrible scenario, four initial ducks and their numbers growing all the time if not hindered...

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Originally Posted by Mac

Looks like Fea and Nog are back on the menu, boys.

And you Mac... and Mith as well.

So we went on with the hypothesis of trying to narrow things down toDay and ignore the "added ducks"-theory for a moment. Now who backed that plan or acted on it? Mac, you did. Fea did. Mith did. I did. No surprise there as we were the ones the count would leave out.

But three of them still around? From us nine?

Fea has had three Nights to be added to the ducklist, Mac and I have had two Nights, Mith has had one.

If Izzy (and therefore Nilp) are true, as well as Dury, it would lead to the three ducks being among us four added with Nerwen and Lari. So three out of six. 50-50 chance then...

Needs to think a bit.

EDIT: X'd with a host of posts.

Nerwen · 03-27-2009, 07:09 PM

*reads thread*

!!!

Durelin · 03-27-2009, 07:10 PM

Sorry Nog, I really didn't mean to keep you up...

Macalaure · 03-27-2009, 07:16 PM

The way Nogrod concludes that Nerwen's votes look innocent makes me think that they might be two of our wolves. Can't come up with much more now, but that's the way my gut tends. Therefore:

++Nogrod

Feanor of the Peredhil · 03-27-2009, 07:24 PM

Nilp's role was decided? Since when?

Somebody help. Please.

Nogrod · 03-27-2009, 07:24 PM

Okay. The question now becomes was the "duck-breeder" able to turn anyone to her cause - or if it is as Dury said that she was not able to turn someone with a gift but only ordos or "neutrals" (whether there are such people around)?

That would look very bad on you Mac. Real bad. And if you're innocent, then Mith might be the one.

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Originally Posted by Mac

Mith is a dreamt gifted.

Your slip here as you wish to get rid of me, Fea and Nerwen? But Mith is no dreamt gifted. She's a dreamt "no-duck". And looking at Rikae who told she could twist someone's Nightly deeds, isn't that exactly what Mith did that Night when she halted the ducks?

Gah! Just saw your vote Mac... Do I have to believe what I just speculated?

Durelin · 03-27-2009, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nog

The question now becomes was the "duck-breeder" able to turn anyone to her cause - or if it is as Dury said that she was not able to turn someone with a gift but only ordos or "neutrals" (whether there are such people around)?

Yes, unfortunately I was only told how many wolves there were at the start of each Day, and at the start of toDay I only had the added knowledge that the alpha-wolf was now dead, suggesting that the number is now fixed.

Somehow Kath was not able to turn/create a new wolf on Night 2. Oh. Wow. The wolves also didn't manage to get a kill that night...perhaps that is connected? (Edit: Or whatever Mith's powers are, they are connected?)

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Kath's dead, though. Dury, will the flock get a new alpha duck toNight?

I don't think so, simply because the fact that I was informed of the alpha-wolf's death would suggest that the numbers aren't going to change anymore. I'm not sure why else I would be told that. That also seems rather like a hopeless cause if they do...

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Originally Posted by Fea

Nilp's role was decided? Since when?

Izzy claims to be the seer tracker, and that she was able to try and guess who the seer was. She seems to suggest she guessed Gwath correctly and thus learned of all his "past and future dreams", she said. And she claimed at the start of toDay that Nilp is not a were-creature...I guess she claims to know that because of the whole knowing Gwath's dreams thing.

Wow that's convoluted. Course that rather describes this whole game...

(Edit #2: Wow, I can't type...)

Feanor of the Peredhil · 03-27-2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Durelin

all his "past and future dreams", she said. And she claimed at the start of toDay that Nilp is not a were-creature...I guess she claims to know that because of the whole knowing Gwath's dreams thing.

Until he dies, one assumes. Suggests that Nilp was dreamed last Night. Suggests role was revealed even with Gwath's death.

Could be. I suppose.

Nerwen · 03-27-2009, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Until he dies, one assumes. Suggests that Nilp was dreamed last Night. Suggests role was revealed even with Gwath's death.

Could be. I suppose.

Izzy did something last Night. I can tell you that much. I don't know what she is, though.

EDIT: X'd with Durelin and Fea.

Nerwen · 03-27-2009, 08:35 PM

*sigh*

I'd really prefer not to have to reveal now.

EDIT: X'd since last post.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 03-27-2009, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I'd really prefer not to have to reveal now.

Funny. I prefer you do.

Nogrod · 03-27-2009, 08:38 PM

Oh my... I was just making my post...

So let it go then.

++ Mac

I'm afraid he was a goodie to begin with but is no more.

Some explanations to follow (with the post I was writing - unless that gets me modfired as well)

Nerwen · 03-27-2009, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

So I'm not even starting the "why should we believe you as there seem to be a host of special goodies revealing in increasing intervals" -thing. Too late and too little time for it toDay. So looking at the details you Dury give, I'm going to buy it.

I also think she's telling the truth, because it makes sense, according to some things I know.

*is mysterious*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Looks like a horrible scenario, four initial ducks and their numbers growing all the time if not hindered...

Kath's dead, though. Dury, will the flock get a new alpha duck toNight?

EDIT: X'd since last post.

Nerwen · 03-27-2009, 07:37 PM

Oh dear. Now Mac's a baddie? Or just misled (Mac, you are wrong about Nogrod... or at least, wrong about him and me)

...oh, wait... think happy thoughts....

I mean... uh... YAY!!! YAY!!!! YAY FOR EVERYONE TURNING EVILLLLLL! IT'S SO EXCITING!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Nilp's role was decided? Since when?

Somebody help. Please.

Izzy says this–

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

I am a Seer/Dream Tracker.
Each Night I would submit a name to whom I thought the Seer would dream that Night. If I got it right, then I got the result of the Seer's Dream. I also had limited guesses as to whom the Seer was. If I guessed correctly whom the Seer was; then I would recieve all past and future dreams they submitted/received. If the Seer was to dream of me; then we would be able to PM each other at Night. Which is why I said I thought I knew what Rikae's role was. I even hinted as such. She was meant to stop the Seer from dreaming me. So the Seer and I could not contact each other.

So she implies she knows Nilp was dreamed as innocent (or non-duck, rather).

EDIT: X'd with Dury; chopped out rest of Izzy's post.

Lariren Shadow · 03-27-2009, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durelin

Except she would make a good candidate last Night, if she was consistently suspected by Kath and Lommy, both wolves. Though that almost suggests Kath was aware she would be killed. Bah, I don't know.

That would be great, if I could be made a wolf/duck, which I don't think I can. Because I'm the Hunter.

I haven't been around a lot because, well, I've been busy or just haven't had time or been utterly confused by this whole thing. I can't really say who I think looks innocent or guilty.

As for those who I seem to think of as slightly more guilty I'm going with Nerwen because, well, she is hiding something and I can't tell if its a good something or a bad something.

Mac is seeming slightly more innocent as well as Nog.

Durelin · 03-27-2009, 07:50 PM

Agh, sorry Lari...

But that makes us better informed toDay...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fea

Until he dies, one assumes.

That's what I would assume, too, but...

Feanor of the Peredhil · 03-27-2009, 07:53 PM

Knowing player is Not Duck only goes so far. Rikae was Not Duck.

Izzy should share all she Knows. Reveal your role, expect questions.

Details. All.

Too late to worry for safety of others.

Durelin · 03-27-2009, 08:26 PM

Mac actually bothers me slightly because of how quickly he jumped on my info to go straight after Nogrod. It seems he had to make a quick decision before leaving, though, so...

Those who Gwath dreamt of and revealed as innocent yesterDay are the most likely picks for the wolf that was turned last Night, but that leaves two other wolves that were either turned Night 1 and Night 3 or were wolves from the beginning, as the only deceased wolf whom we *know* was a wolf from the beginning was Kath.

I wonder if Nilp is coming back toDay? And I hope Izzy is so she can explain herself a bit better.

Edit: Wow, not that she will have much time to...

03-27-2009, 07:24 PM	#5
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Nilp's role was decided? Since when? Somebody help. Please. __________________ peace

03-27-2009, 08:35 PM	#10
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	sigh I'd really prefer not to have to reveal now. EDIT: X'd since last post. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

03-27-2009, 08:38 PM	#12
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Oh my... I was just making my post... So let it go then. ++ Mac I'm afraid he was a goodie to begin with but is no more. Some explanations to follow (with the post I was writing - unless that gets me modfired as well) __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

03-27-2009, 07:53 PM	#17
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Knowing player is Not Duck only goes so far. Rikae was Not Duck. Izzy should share all she Knows. Reveal your role, expect questions. Details. All. Too late to worry for safety of others. __________________ peace

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03-27-2009, 07:09 PM	#2
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	reads thread !!! __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

03-27-2009, 07:10 PM	#3
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Sorry Nog, I really didn't mean to keep you up...

03-27-2009, 07:16 PM	#4
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	The way Nogrod concludes that Nerwen's votes look innocent makes me think that they might be two of our wolves. Can't come up with much more now, but that's the way my gut tends. Therefore: ++Nogrod

03-27-2009, 08:26 PM	#18
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Mac actually bothers me slightly because of how quickly he jumped on my info to go straight after Nogrod. It seems he had to make a quick decision before leaving, though, so... Those who Gwath dreamt of and revealed as innocent yesterDay are the most likely picks for the wolf that was turned last Night, but that leaves two other wolves that were either turned Night 1 and Night 3 or were wolves from the beginning, as the only deceased wolf whom we know was a wolf from the beginning was Kath. I wonder if Nilp is coming back toDay? And I hope Izzy is so she can explain herself a bit better. Edit: Wow, not that she will have much time to...