Tol-in-Gaurhoth LVII - Chess Game for Middle Earth: Game Thread

[the phantom]

Personally, I can't believe Gandalf agreed to this. You know good and well that Sauron won't keep his word. He's got the biggest armies and such. He's just trying to get the war over with. If he loses this game, he'll just attack.

Surely Gandalf knows this. Perhaps he's just stalling for time? Hmmm....

[Mnemosyne]

Not to mention: since when has Gandalf cared about ruling lands? He weren't called the Grey Pilgrim for nuttin'.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Sally

My apologies for the egregious oversight on my part, dear packmates.

Whatever. You know good and well we're not packmates. Only one of us is a Werewolf. Then one of us is the Werebear, and the final member is the Black Pawn.

Should we forge an alliance?

And then stab each other in the back somewhere around Day 3?

[Mnemosyne]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Whatever. You know good and well we're not packmates. Only one of us is a Werewolf. Then one of us is the Werebear, and the final member is the Black Pawn.

Should we forge an alliance?

And then stab each other in the back somewhere around Day 3?

Rock on!

...can we do it IRL?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Whatever. You know good and well we're not packmates. Only one of us is a Werewolf. Then one of us is the Werebear, and the final member is the Black Pawn.

Should we forge an alliance?

And then stab each other in the back somewhere around Day 3?

Brilliant. We'll do lunch to discuss the details. I suggest the Chinese restaurant in Lincoln. They do the MOST fabulous duck soup I've ever tasted. You'll love it.

[Mnemosyne]

Lincoln? How am I supposed to get to Lincoln?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

Lincoln? How am I supposed to get to Lincoln?

Fly, of course.

Or in a takeout box. Oh wait, that's on the way back. My mistake. So sorry.

[Mnemosyne]

Originally Posted by Sally

Fly, of course.

Or in a takeout box. Oh wait, that's on the way back. My mistake. So sorry.

Who is this person and why does she want to eat me?

BAD WOLF! BAD WOLF!

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

Who is this person and why does she want to eat me?

BAD WOLF! BAD WOLF!

Hun, no wolves in this game. Perhaps you're using your newbie status to make people think you're too innocent to be a cold blooded killer? It's not working.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

BAD WOLF! BAD WOLF!

Who reference?

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Personally, I can't believe Gandalf agreed to this

Are you sure it isn't Saruman under the guise of Gandalf?






*melts from Mount Doom heat*

[Eönwë]

On another note, it's interesting to see two new Downers in this game.

So, theres 18 players. 4 gifted. 3 gifted werewolves. 1 Werebear. 1 Cobbler. That leaves 9 ordos.

I think that in this game it is probably going to be more important than ever to kill the bad guys early. The Werewolves (Black Bishop, Black Knight, Black Rook) have an almost 1 in 3 chance of getting a gifted as does the Werebear (Black Queen), and every Night that they don't (unless they get the Cobbler(Black Pawn) or one of the opposing side) the odds of them killing one will increase. And this will be especially bad.

We have more gifteds than usual which is good, but it also means that they are more vulnerable to attack.


As for posts so far, what can I say. Everyone is either innocent, or maybe they know we'd think that and the first 3 really are wolves, or one of them really a wolf and was playing along with it to remove the suspicion from themselves. Or maybe they're all just ordos having fun.

Edit: x-ed- Hey, Wilwa stole my theory!

[wilwarin538]

No, looks to me like you stole my theory! Though, to be honest, it's not that brilliant of a theory.

One thing I thought of was whether or not the werebear can kill a wolf at Night, or vice-versa?

And then there's this mystery White Queen, who is either going to be of great use to us or, to think a bit outside the box, is completly on her own team. If you think about her opposite the Black Queen, who is on her own team, not really allied with the other Black pieces, could it not be a possibility that the White Queen is similar, and isn't necessarily allied with us White Pawns? Or perhaps the White Queen doesn't even know that's what they are, it might be something only our Mod knows about.

Anyway, just some random thoughts, I find it quite intriguing that there is a mystery role, and can't stop thinking of the possibilities. But that isn't our focus toDay, I know.

So I will be back in about 5 hours!

[Nogrod]

So we have three self-proclaimed baddies around? How should we take it?

This situation calls for a citation and some listening to the wisdom of the two Queens speaking there.

"What do you mean by 'If you really are a Queen'? What right have you to call yourself so? You can't be a Queen, you know, till you passed the proper examination. And the sooner we begin, the better."

"I only said 'if'!" poor Alice pleaded in a piteous tone.

The two queens looked at each other, and the Red Queen remarked with a little shudder. "She says she only said 'if'..."

"But she said a great deal more than that!" the White Queen moaned, wringing her hands. "Oh, ever so much more than that!"

"So you did, you know." the Red Queen said to Alice. "Always speak the truth - think before you speak - and write it down afterwards."

"I'm sure I didn't mean..." Alice was beginning, but the Red Queen interrupted her impatiently.

"That's just what I complain of! You should have meant! What do you suppose is the use of a child without any meaning? Even a joke should have some meaning."

I couldn't put it better...

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Throwing a die? No, it was a free choice. Nerwen stood before her, the one who had attempted to instigate actual discussion. Not the frivolous, not the as-yet-invisible, but the one piece of sense. See what follows.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Well then. I feel cheerful this morning. Phantom, I completely agree with everything you've said about Lando. He absolutely must survive.

Oh, and Han shot first. Just mentioning...

Here and gone in a flash!

Stick shift here I come!

PS: zomg, I've just realized that if Lommy was playing, 'Han shot first' could be seen as a clue! If only...

[/silly]

I think we should start with what is my usual game strategy: systematically kill everybody who might raise a good case (true or not) against me.

Vote Aimè, lest our torrid romantic history come back to haunt me now, as I dangle over Doom itself!

[/silly for real this time]

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Fea

I think we should start with what is my usual game strategy: systematically kill everybody who might raise a good case (true or not) against me.

Now that sounds like a good idea! I grow weary of you being lynched- usually always as an innocent. Perhaps if we made it our strategy to kill your attackers this game then you would survive.

Originally Posted by Kath

clearly a pawn trying to get to the other side of the board by making himself look important

But... but I am important... My mom says so...

*sulks*

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

I think we should start with what is my usual game strategy: systematically kill everybody who might raise a good case (true or not) against me.

Don't worry, I won't hurt you if you don't hurt me.
(or maybe I won't dream you if you don't dream me.... take your pick)

*throws a wrench in the works and runs away laughing*

[Mirandir]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

I think we should start with what is my usual game strategy: systematically kill everybody who might raise a good case (true or not) against me.

Yaaaaay lynch Fea time! The best part of waking up is lynched Fea in your cup!

...Just thought about that. Ew. I shouldn't be allowed to post before breakfast. All right I'm gonna go eat and I'll be back to post something productive. *saultes*

[Rikae]

There is a disturbance in the force....

Sally made a HP reference on the 'Downs! (So that's why I couldn't access the site this morning).

Well, one thing is clear: we don't have 9 white pawns. This is a chess game, so we have 8... and 8 black pawns, which means there are more people in this game than we think.

++Boro

++Mac

++Roa

++SPaM

++TGWBS

++Morm

++Diamond18

++Mith

Well, that takes care of that.

Looking at the rules of chess, it would make sense for the white queen to be some sort of multi-gifted, although that would unbalance the game too much, I suppose (perhaps not, though, if the gifted wolves can communicate with each other - that would give them quite an edge). Shame there aren't kings in this game.... lynch the right person, and instantly win.

Well, looking over the posts, I see some things that look disturbingly like the last game -
1) Nerwen looking suspicious (vague, safe, and making strange half-accusations). I think mods tend not to make people wolves twice in a row (although there have been notable exceptions), but I vowed to trust my instincts after the last game. I will look at her more closely, at least.

2) Nogrod fixating on banter. Please, not again (although the quote does express the point very nicely). I really see nothing odd about these so-called "confessions" - in fact, I'll add one of my own: I am the wookie.

3) A couple newbies (and a veteran player I haven't encountered before - Wilwa). Of course, I extend the same courtesy as last game - I won't vote for a newbie on Day 1. Day 2 and onward, though, no special treatment.

EDIT: X'd with Fea and my son.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Well, one thing is clear: we don't have 9 white pawns. This is a chess game, so we have 8... and 8 black pawns, which means there are more people in this game than we think.
....
++Mith

Well, that takes care of that.

[wilwarin538]

Alright, my random thoughts, and my vote.

Mirandir: not much from him, so don't really have a feel yet

Durelin: voted for Sally, I find him (her?, sorry!), interesting and somewhat entertaining, inclined to keep him around

Fea: love her and am very excited to be playing with her, therefore she's safe.....for toDay atleast

Izzy: I'm inclined to think innocent so far, nothing's popping out at me.

Nerwen: Seems to be thinking logically, got randomly voted for so I feel bad for her.

Eomer: aw Eomer, voted for Sally aswell, so cryptic, though he has fooled me in the past I'm gonna give him a chance, he's definitely entertaining

the phantom: is safe toDay for me because he's smart and because he said this :

Good to see you again Wilwa. I remember that it was you who hosted one of the best Werewolf games ever.

Brinniel: Don't really have much on her, said she would be back later but I'll be asleep by then, so not sure yet, a maybe perhaps, on my list

Sally: got voted for twice already, had computer difficulties, I understand that, won't be holding it against her today

Gwathagor: Said he's unsure of the random voting going on, though in my opinion that's all Day 1 is about, there's nothing to base anything on so a few people vote random and everyone else voting later just copies or votes random themselves, unavoidable. So I don't know about him either, but he's on my list.

Lariren: Focused on roles alot, though so did most, but posted a fairly lengthy post so I'm inclined to let her be for now

Rikae: Voted for Eonwe, I have a good feeling about her, like her style, for now

Eonwe: (Steve is it?) Voted for Gwath, not sure about him either, posts alot but not necessarily anything concrete, on my list

Nogrod: called me Wilva, but I think I can forgive him for now, seems innocently enough

Mnemo: Confusing, but he's a noobie so I'm not really gonna consider him at all today

Kath: Have some past experience with her, I know that random vote for Nerwen isn't exactly like her, though it makes me uneasy I'd like to give her another day

Hansy: voted for Fea, I too like the way he thinks, and along with that he's new so I'm willing to keep him around

So that's the best I've got for toDay, Day 2 will be a lot better for me and I'll probably be going back and rereading everything and saying a lot more.

So my vote I suppose now, since I definitely won't be getting back on toDay.

For me it's between Brinniel, Gwathagor and Eonwe.

Don't want to bring another person into the mix, so between Gwath and Eonwe I will vote for:

++Eonwe

Hopefully I will see you all next Day.

edit: x-posted, with lots of people

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

One thing I thought of was whether or not the werebear can kill a wolf at Night, or vice-versa?

I think that they probably could, but I'm not sure. In the last game I played the werebear wasn't a proper werebear and couldn't kill at night, but I think that logically a bear should be able to overpower a wolf. And also a wolf pack could overpower a bear. So I don't think we need to worry about whether they can kill each other.

Originally Posted by Hansy

They have a Ranger, so there's always one element on the team immune to the Black Queen attacks. The Black Bishop can dream of her, leave some clues and basically blackmail them into helping the team's job.

Who is them? Is it the wolves? If the wolves work as a team, then I don't think that there needs to be any blackmailing. Or is that a wolvish slip? *dun! dun! dun!*

edit:x-ed a lot

[Isabellkya]

I think Hansy was talking about the Werewolf team dreaming of the Queen - then somehow blackmailing her to do their bidding; lest they lead her to her death.

*Is here*



x'd with Eonwe.

[Lariren Shadow]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

I think Hansy was talking about the Werewolf team dreaming of the Queen - then somehow blackmailing her to do their bidding; lest they lead her to her death.

That sort of makes sense, but then wouldn't the Black Queen just start killing the Wolves instead. And how could they blackmail the Black Queen? Say the Black Rook is hunting xem? Interesting point though, but since the Black Queen is on xyr there is no reason to play nice with the Wolves. The Wolves could try to get the Black Queen lynched though.

Edit: x-posted with Rikea and fix typo of gender neutral.