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Old 02-08-2009, 04:57 PM   #1
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To me, Ferny seems like a cowardly and despicable wimp.

At least Golfimbul tried to raid the Shire. Ferny had to wait for someone else to do it and then nosed in to take advantage of the situation.

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Old 02-08-2009, 07:06 PM   #2
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Golfimbul-2 Bill Ferny-7

Golfimbul rolls away with three of his chums
to take on the Took Tornadoes in a lively
game of lawn bowling.

Next: Two neighbors in TH, neither with an
especially positive relationship to Thorin & Co. in
general or burrahobbits in particular:
The Great Goblin vs. William
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:28 PM   #3
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Bolg was living off the accomplishments of his far greater father, Azog. William had a better accent.

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Old 02-09-2009, 09:07 AM   #4
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Not only was he a great humanitarian
toward burrahobbits:
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Poor little blighter! Let him go!
But he showed tactical survival sense beyond his mates:
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Shut yer mouth! Yer can't expect folk to stop
here for ever just to be et by you and Bert. You've et a
village and half between yer, since we come down from
the mountains. How much more d'yer want? And times
been up our way, when yer'd have said 'thank yer Bill' fora nice bit
'o fat valley mutton like what this is.
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:16 AM   #5
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Bolg was living off the accomplishments of his far greater father, Azog.
Wait, wait. Just so that there is no confusion: Bolg is son of Azog and he comes from Gundabad, and was the leader of the Orcs in the Battle of the Five Armies. The Great Goblin is the master of the Goblins of the High Pass, and he has no name, and he was killed by Gandalf, in the result of which the Dwarves were freed.

The Great Goblin was quite interesting. I mean, not really bad. But William is my favourite of the Trolls. And he was the most... hmm... nice I mean, he does not want to eat poor Bilbo and wants to let him go. And poor him, he was accused by his fellows for leading them down from the mountains, even though he surely had the best intentions in mind! He certainly deserves some credit.

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EDIT: x-ed with Tuor. Yes, exactly! I am glad to see I am not the only one who noticed that
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:37 AM   #6
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He even has a surname of Huggins. Interesting, I'll bet, the study of hill troll genealogy.
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He even has a surname of Huggins. Interesting, I'll bet, the study of hill troll genealogy.
Yes, that's another interesting thing. I always forget about it - mainly because in my translation, it's for some reason left out. I wonder what made them not to translate it...
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:25 PM   #8
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I always forget about it - mainly because in my translation, it's for some reason left out. I wonder what made them not to translate it...
I wonder more why Tolkien decided to give William that surname in the first place! Why a surname? And of all the possibilities he comes up with Huggins! Now really...

It would be reasonable to stand against the tide again and vote for the Great Goblin, but he's just not... well, votable.

I think he was always the mere nobody standing for a role there had to be. A goblin king living under the mountains could have been a formidable character but GG is not.

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