What do you assign to Mordor?

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

When you think about it, it has to be really difficult coming up with a band name that isn't dumb, or hasn't been used a dozen times before. After so many years of rock/pop/indie/emo music, there can't be that many alternatives.

I may be wrong but I think Nog or someone once came up with a band name Saruman & the Sarumen. I think it was fabulous.

[Morthoron]

One of my favorite bands was Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mirkwood.

Oh wait, I'm mixing my cultural touchstones again, sorry.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I may be wrong but I think Nog or someone once came up with a band name Saruman & the Sarumen. I think it was fabulous.

Now that is a bad name. . .

The Pirates of The Sea miight be unimaginative, but it was better than many other songs in that contest.

Some of my friends used to have a band and they changed name at almost every gig they played, the name I liked the best was "Laika and the moon-dogs"

[Lalwendë]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Now that is a bad name. . .

The Pirates of The Sea miight be unimaginative, but it was better than many other songs in that contest.

Some of my friends used to have a band and they changed name at almost every gig they played, the name I liked the best was "Laika and the moon-dogs"

Pirates of the Sea were hilarious! However I assign to Mordor the travesty that was Sebastien Tellier not winning by an enormous margin, the man is a genius.

We used to have a band and our spin-off band was called The Derek Hatton Toupee Experience. I might start it up again. We used to do percussion with snooker balls.

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Bureaucrats.

I bet Mordor is filled with them; power-crazed little men and women dismissing any attempt of a constructive dialogue by referring to a rule or regulation they alone can interpret correctly, saying 'it's not my fault it's like this' or 'There's nothing I can do, my hands are tied', with ill-concealed glee.

[Lindale]

I assign the lousy student who kicked our lovely college cat! And all those who are needlessly cruel to animals. I'm no vegan or something, I don't object to slaughtering pigs or what, but kicking a cat for the heck of it is just pure evil. Especially if you know that the cat is loved by a certain group.

And those who tear off pages from library books. Lousy little creeps who deserve to be cooked in the fires of Mt Doom.

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Originally Posted by Lindale

I assign the lousy student who kicked our lovely college cat! And all those who are needlessly cruel to animals. I'm no vegan or something, I don't object to slaughtering pigs or what, but kicking a cat for the heck of it is just pure evil. Especially if you know that the cat is loved by a certain group.

See, that reasoning I can't quite understand. How is kicking at a cat, or a dog, and giving it a few unpleasant moments, often in retribution to an unwanted behaviour, somehow worse than slaughtering pigs on an industrial scale after having spent their brief life in a cramped dark space, and these are animals capable of feelings and of intelligence similar or more developed to that of a cat or a dog?

[Inziladun]

Lindale

I don't object to slaughtering pigs or what, but kicking a cat for the heck of it is just pure evil. Especially if you know that the cat is loved by a certain group.

I agree. Senseless violence toward animals is certainly a Sauronian characteristic. For the same reason, I have a problem with fishers and hunters who don't eat what they catch and kill.

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See, that reasoning I can't quite understand. How is kicking at a cat, or a dog, and giving it a few unpleasant moments, often in retribution to an unwanted behaviour, somehow worse than slaughtering pigs on an industrial scale after having spent their brief life in a cramped dark space, and these are animals capable of feelings and of intelligence similar or more developed to that of a cat or a dog?

To be sure, food animals deserve to be treated as humanely as possible and should be spared needless pain and discomfort.
That said, I don't consider slaughtering cows and such to be evil in itself.

[Lindale]

The pig, cattle, chicken, lamb, you eat. It goes somewhere, for want of better term, productive. Kicking a cat or running it over with your brand-new SUV is a useless act, unless that cat had hurt you or done some damage. But a cat that is obviously a pet, which you kick just for the heck of it, does that act not make you evil?

[Morthoron]

Originally Posted by skip spence

See, that reasoning I can't quite understand. How is kicking at a cat, or a dog, and giving it a few unpleasant moments, often in retribution to an unwanted behaviour, somehow worse than slaughtering pigs on an industrial scale after having spent their brief life in a cramped dark space, and these are animals capable of feelings and of intelligence similar or more developed to that of a cat or a dog?

The comedian Denis Leary put the dividing line between animals that we 'save' and animals we 'eat' quite succinctly:

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Eating meat is an instinct! Yeah! And I know what it's about. "I don't want to eat the meat because I love the animals. I love the animals!" Hey, I love the animals too. I love my doggy. He's so cute. My fluffy little dog -- he's so cute -- there's the problem. We only want to save the cute animals, don't we? Yeah. Why don't we just have animal auditions. Line 'em up one by one and interview them individually.

"What are you?"
"I'm an otter."
"And what do you do?"
"I swim around on my back and do cute little human things with my hands."
"You're free to go."
"And what are you?"
"I'm a cow."
"Get in the ******* truck, ok pal!"
"But I'm an animal."
"You're a baseball glove! Get on that truck!"
"I'm an animal, I have rights!"
"Yeah, here's yer ******* cousin, get on the ******* truck, pal!"

We kill the cows to make jackets out of them, and then we kill each other for the jackets we made out of the cows.