Werewolf LIII: The Republic

[Boromir88]

Actually, Boro, are you serious with these or not?~Greenie

Nope. I like having fun, I'm demented. Rune didn't say anything about it, I doubt he felt the need to. Well I'm not going to speak for him, it was nothing purposeful on my part.

Honestly, this ploy stuff is getting on my nerves. I don't like a situation where a few players can basically turn away every suspicion concerning their weird behaviour saying "Oh, that was a ploy, but of course you are too silly to understand advanced WW-playing. *sigh*"~Greenie

I believe I told you yesterday I want you to question what everyone does, that's a good thing. I love using questions .

What I'm telling you, is everything I'm attempting is for the sake of anyone innocent, if you believe me, I love you. If you don't that's your own choice, have the spine to send me to the gallows and live with the decision when you're proven wrong.

The whole business of choosing reps seems to have been forgotten in all this phantom-Boro-mess...

I'm more than willing to do so, I'm glad to see morm's and you have the right idea.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I hate that I have to leave now (I will be gone in 10-20 min) when things are interesting, but I do. I will be gone a few hours, but I should be home long before deadline.

I don't know who to vote for. . . Kath, Mormegil or maybe Phantom
I have no candidate I feel really good about and I can think of reasons why not to vote for any of these, but they are still the people I would feel best about voting for.

EDIT: Cross posted with The Phantom

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

I hate that I have to leave now (I will be gone in 10-20 min) when things are interesting, but I do. I will be gone a few hours, but I should be home long before deadline.

I don't know who to vote for. . . Kath, Mormegil or maybe Phantom
I have no candidate I feel really good about and I can think of reasons why not to vote for any of these, but they are still the people I would feel best about voting for.

EDIT: Cross posted with The Phantom

Not to discredit Morm or try to sway your vote too much, but he said he may not be here much the rest of today. Perhaps you should go for one of your other choices.



I'll probably do the same thing. I trust Morm (at least to a point) but if he's busy I don't want him to have to dash around finding internet connections or, worse yet, not be able to post.

[mormegil]

Greenie, I understand your reservations, however if I am voted as a rep, I'm willing, if needs be to take my laptop and sit in my car in the driveway while I use my wireless network if necessary. I wouldn't mind being a rep and I believe I will have access but I wanted to make sure everybody is aware that at the end of this DAY it may be a bit more difficult.

Where is Kath and Ka today???

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by mormegil

Greenie, I understand your reservations, however if I am voted as a rep, I'm willing, if needs be to take my laptop and sit in my car in the driveway while I use my wireless network if necessary. I wouldn't mind being a rep and I believe I will have access but I wanted to make sure everybody is aware that at the end of this DAY it may be a bit more difficult.

Where is Kath and Ka today???

Wait. The end of today or toDay? I think I misunderstood your post.


Heh and that's why I was considering not voting you. Don't know about where you're at, but it's cold here and I'd feel bad if you did have to do that. Not that I don't think you'd be willing to do it, I'd just feel rather sorry for you. Hehe.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Wait. The end of today or toDay? I think I misunderstood your post.


Heh and that's why I was considering not voting you. Don't know about where you're at, but it's cold here and I'd feel bad if you did have to do that. Not that I don't think you'd be willing to do it, I'd just feel rather sorry for you. Hehe.

When it comes time for the reps to vote and if I'm a rep I will make sure I have access. I think I will have access where I am staying but I'm not sure. Either way it won't be too bad.

[the phantom]

Ah, I see Rune. I wasn't attempting to come across as "offended". I assure you I was expecting some stuff like this to happen, so I wasn't outright offended. Partly amused, partly surprised that so many seemed to be thinking that way, and rather shocked that aspects of it had not already been challenged by others.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Green

I disagree with you here. If you were innocent and I were wolf, I would definitely want to keep you alive...

Really? Even if you thought I was maybe the Seer? That sounds like suicide to me.

And even if you'd want to keep me alive despite that, I doubt your packmates would agree with you.

[the phantom]

Vote for me, Sally, or I will make like a "squid in a pepper shaker" and exterminate you!



EDIT: She tried to give me a crash course in Dr. Who yesterday. Don't ask.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by the phantom

And even if you'd want to keep me alive despite that, I doubt your packmates would agree with you.

Good that you reminded me of that tp.

I mean there has been a host of arguments going around like "X would not kill Y" or "Z would kill W" so "they are wolves" / "must be innocents". Now even if the wolves may stab each other in the back during the Days, during the Nights it's normally a teamwork and quite democratic indeed - at least to my experience of both being a wolf a host of times and reading wolf-PM's some have provided other players in the after-game discussions.

So I would take every such claim with a pinch of salt indeed.

[Kath]

Hello! Well I am here at last. I attempted to get on earlier and I have no idea why I couldn't. My Facebook was working, my hotmail was working, it just wouldn't link me through to here for some reason. Anyway, it's working now so. I shall have a look at what's been going on toDay and try to get back with some thoughts but I do have one immediate question ... why is phantom now called tummy?

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Kath

I do have one immediate question ... why is phantom now called tummy?

I can field that one. I gladly take credit for it. Earlier when I was commenting on his silliness I called him phantummy and then it went to tummy for short. I think we should all have a nickname, I'm just glad I have morm.

[Nogrod]

We have 16 people in this village, 4 of them wolves.


Of these we have the quiet departement:

Gil-Galad whom I think is innocent but may not return to the game. Let's hope he does.

The Ka looks like the über-submarine. I might support her lynch toDay unless some real pressing RL reasons come to the surface.

Kath I'm very unsure of as she seems to trust me somewhat (at least the last time she was around of which some time has really gone) and I find it slightly suspicious. Maybe I should just start to learn to be a bit more grown-up and stop suspecting her everytime (I quess this is the second time I'm saying this; now what does it tell? ). But she really should post more. I'm not inclined to suggest her lynching anyway, at this point at least.

Gwath I'd just like to see more. I have no clear picture of him. Sometimes I think not even a picture... where are you?

Also Brinn has been relatively quiet toDay. But so far I have no idea. She looks reasonable but that's what she always does. And that really bothers me right now.



Then there are Rune, Sally, Shasta, Greenie and Ilya who are all falllng into my category "I really should pay more attention to them as they do actually post". Somehow my mind has been in other places (thanks Boro & tp ). I'll promise to look at at least some of them tomorrow (the rep-day that is).


The people I have a "better" vision (meaning I think I have something) on remain.

Lommy looks and feels genuine, from her defence from Agan's attack to her frustration with Boro and tp toDay.

morm seems to enjoy a lot of trust in here. He looks almost botheringly innocent. But I must agree that he hasn't looked suspicious this far. I'd trust him but wouldn't make him a super-delegate anyway which he looks like be becoming if all those intending to vote him do that...

Nerwen is either a wolf or a victim of a nasty plot made by wolves. Her defences can be interpreted both ways. I have no clear feeling on her but if I'd had to be the one to vote the lynch at this moment I would probably try her (or then The Ka, just to be sure).


Boromir88 & the phantom then... Well, they could be anything, really. Two wolves, one wolf & one innocent, two innocents...

Somehow I'm thinking we should leave them for the seer - if they promise to not draw all the discussion on themselves from now on...

I mean I see now I have used a lot of my time toDay looking at things relating to them. Some of them give me the creeps, some of them assure me of their innocence. But with 12 innocents against 4 wolves the ratio is quite good and we probably should not take rushed decisions with them.

But we shouldn't talk about them every Day and all the time either. At least I see I have failed in that toDay in a monstrous fashion.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Gwath I'd just like to see more. I have no clear picture of him. Sometimes I think not even a picture... where are you?

Directing a play i.e. super busy!

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by morm

Greenie, I understand your reservations, however if I am voted as a rep, I'm willing, if needs be to take my laptop and sit in my car in the driveway while I use my wireless network if necessary. I wouldn't mind being a rep and I believe I will have access but I wanted to make sure everybody is aware that at the end of this DAY it may be a bit more difficult.

Where is Kath and Ka today???

The bit about Kath and Ka I totally agree with. Where are those lovely ladies toDay? Or our friend Gwathagor? I miss them.

As for the first part, I'm glad to hear that you'll be able to participate. I might vote you for rep toDay, because of the choices I had you are the one I have heard others considering for reps as well. Back with my rep vote soon...


EDIT: x-ed with 2x phantom & 1x morm

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by phantom

Really? Even if you thought I was maybe the Seer? That sounds like suicide to me.

And why would I think you are the seer? I'm really enjoying this debate, you know. I hate to leave, but it's getting late and I'll have to let Lommy post as well... How stupid.

I'll vote

++morm for rep

[Boromir88]

Maybe tp got the idea from Boro's hasty PS. and Boro followed suit? If that is the case I'm really astonished and admiring your teamwork.~Nogrod

We do work well together, which I think might be getting under some people's (i.e. wolves skin )

But anyway I don't know who the mastermind was...I noticed tp tried earlier with Gil, that was blown up, and so I tried someone else. I actually didn't know tp was playing along until the "reading assignment" post I thought he was serious in starting a Nogrod/Boro war, if Agan was killed.

Look, I'm not trying to get innocents lynched, far from it, I would have filibustered if Agan was in trouble (seriously). But, I do want to keep the wolves off the seer for as long as possible, and that means giving wolves ordos to go after. Maybe they went after Agan because they really thought she was the seer, I don't know, but to me the plan worked, and it's a big gorilla off my back to see tp caught on and added his own part.

Honestly, this may probably make me look more suspicious, I really don't care...but if I was a wolf and believed Agan was the seer, why would I set her up for a wolf kill? Why not just quietly take her out at night, because she trusted me and voted for me as a rep even?