Tol-in-Gaurhoth LI: The Pain of Wargs

[Thinlómien]

Well, okay then, since no one has started it yet, let's go and throw some suspicion around to get people talk about other stuff than the rules...

Something suspicious about everybody...

Brinn - While her attitude looks innocently practical, she could be a wolf who is enjoying the ignorance of the villagers and trying to preserve it by disencouraging analysing of the mod's posts by setting an example.

Gollum - There's always a newbie wolf. You see, statistically, one has probably the highest chance to be a wolf in his/her first game...

Gwath - Is trying to confuse the village with his weird interpretations of Eomer's words, clearly. I mean, Eomer said this game is going to be relatively basic and this guy goes on talking about wizards...

Kitanna - I never liked that "hi, I'm here" habit (except with Kath because it's so characteristic of her ). Always makes me wonder if it's a wolf who's just keen on maintaining a presence...

Legate - Is writing long rambling posts without really saying anything so obviously just a wolf maintaining a presence and not interested in really getting things going.

Rune - He says he's nervous and eager. I wonder why... Also, he takes my interpretation as the truth a bit too readily... suspicious.

Samwise - I had forgotten his style and the fact that it always makes me intuitively suspicious. I remember once being right about him being a wolf, though...

Shasta - First, it looks like he knows the rules better than the rest of us, but doesn't care to elaborate. Then, he's suddenly suggesting something about as silly as six traitors, when Eomer has just said there are two of them at the moment... Fishy.

Kath, Nogrod, Mith, Diamond, Groin and Gaunt - Obviously hiding in the shadows intentionally...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Posting from the school library... yay!!! (They have a horrible keyboard, though. Very noisy to type, which makes me distracted.)

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

I'm also curious what the prophecy means when it says (just following this), "The twain will come at the behest of their following master, and his foe is at their heels." If "twain" refers to the earlier pairs of traitors, then the meaning is relatively clear, as the "master" and the "foe" are apparently the two great enemies of the previous lines. But, if "twain" refers, rather, to those two enemies, then we have something entirely weird on our hands. What exactly, I couldn't begin to say. I'm inclined to think the first interpretation more likely. Occam's razor, you know.

I don't get it at all, but when I first skim-read this part of the prophecy, I thought: what, something like the Boss and the Henchmen in Gil's game a long time ago? Maybe indeed some DW-y thing, like, maybe just in the sense that the baddies first pick somebody to "curse" and this one later turns into a Wolf (on Day 3???). And "foe", if it's a foe of the baddies? I.e. what about some Hunter?

Honestly, I have no idea. I also don't think it has too much of a real value right now, indeed, we have two wolves now (plainly, from what Eomer said in the narration), what comes later, will simply be dealt with when it comes. Nevertheless, it's good to have at least some idea, mainly that we know how many wolves we have now, and later, how many new ones were added or whatever. Several wolf teams also sounds like an option to me. But would it mean multiple kills? I'd hope not, there's not too many of us after all.

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

I wonder how possible it is that there are three pairs of two traitor-Wargs each, that kill rotationally?

Shasta's idea about "taking turns" actually also does not sound that impossible. That would also mean a big change (when you have to judge on basis of who killed which night etc.... it will be maybe too much confusing, but who knows. I have seen worse games, eh, Mr.Phantom?...).

Anyway, as Lommy said, as good topic as any to discuss for the moment. I actually think, quite good for start, not to just sit here and wonder.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I mean, Eomer said this game is going to be relatively basic and this guy goes on talking about wizards...

He said: relatively. And the mere prophecy was sufficient enough for me.

Now, I just wonder what to make of Lommy's apparent rudeness, I mean come on, she may have been tired yesterday evening, but now it's morning (at least for her) and she should not be thinking that sillily...

P.S. Wow! I love to be in WW again after such a long time! It's just great!!! Will be back!!!

[Nogrod]

Just to add my two cents into the discussion about our situation...

In pairs they come! ... One night, a second and yea! a third, of this I know.

So we have two villains here right now. Possibly another pair the next Night?

But what follows! Two will follow, after the third night, great enemies! Their war beats and tramples us, and brings about that dread circumstance

So if in pairs they come we have two plus two villains after the next Night and six after the third... but they only form

Two amoral forces, to subvert all others.

? So it looks they will be fighting each other but form only two sides? To subvert others... like trying to enlist other villains into their teams at Nights or something?

The twain will come, at the behest of their following master, and his foe is at their heels.

Or a third side is something totally different... Maybe on
our side? *crosses fingers for hope*

The pain of Wargs is the only certainty.

So even they fight against each other we are the ones who suffer of that fight.

Oops!

Two will follow, after the third night, great enemies!

So this can be read also "after the Night" eg. on Day3 onwards... so four diffenrent teams of two running rampant...

Gah, maybe you're right. Let's hunt the present baddies first...

[Gaunt]

Hello Fellow Wargs,

So far there is little, as far as I can see, to be made of this contemptible warg heresy. Samwise's theory on the prophecy seems plausible - that we will be facing a total of six traitors - but one wonders in what pattern the pairs will appear, and what level of cooperation will exist between them. Do the six traitors at present all know their roles, or will two be turned to the path of treachery with each passing day, until we have six?

What if one of the wargs destined for treachery is identified - will another be chosen in his or her stead to fulfill the prophecy of the pairs?

Much to consider.

[Mithalwen]

I don't know what is going on but I suspect Lommie has been eating funny mushrooms. .... That was an interesting load of meta game nonsense, very odd

[Brinniel]

Okay, not much has really happened since last night. And honestly, I have not the slightest clue who the traitors could be. This early in the Day, nobody really stands out as suspicious even a little bit.

I have to take off for class in only minutes and I don't know if I'll be back before deadline. So I think I'll do something I've never done before....and not vote (gasp). Yeah, yeah, it's something that'll probably get me killed (as usually does)....whether it's because the village decides a non-vote is too suspicious or the baddies decide I'd make a great no-track kill. I could make a completely random vote, but I just don't feel like it toDay. Sorry.

Oh how I hate when RL interferes with WW....