Tol-in-Gaurhoth L: Battle of the Fandoms

[Boromir88]

Rikae

Day 1 votes sally.
Day 2 votes McCaber.
Day 3 goes back to sally.

Can't speak for the others (two of whom are high on my own suspicion list at the moment), but it's been easy for me to be consistent because no one seems to agree with me.

Could this be taken by the last wolf that Rikae is a seer trying to get people to listen to her?

I find Rikae's 306 post interesting, she puts herself on the naughty list:

Rikae - Naughty, as always, but not wolfishly or cobblerishly so (unless my right hand doesn't know what my left is doing ).

Could that be taken as a hint that Rikae was someone gifted? She's on the naughty list, but not wolf nor cobbler?

Notes she doesn't like Izzy's way of poking around.

Yep, I don't like the way Izzy hangs around the fringes of things, occasionally "poking" at someone as if in an attempt to see if she can get suspicions flowing that way.
That's one thing that was bugging me

And next post she votes for sally.

Izzy, McCaber, and sally make it on Rikae's wolf list. Rikae votes sally, sally ends up being a wolf. Did either Izzy or McCaber believe Rikae was then the seer?

I don't know if there's enough evidence to drum up against McCaber, but I have to go soon and I got a feeling either him or Izzy is the last wolf. Taking into account I don't like McCaber certainty (or his entire post 451)

And I figure that between the mob killings and the seer dreams we can kill/exonerate the five (or so) SPs (suspicious persons) remaining without much difficulty. I hope it doesn't come to that, though.

Seems a bit hasty to go after the 5 remaining "suspicious people," obviously you're off that list McCaber? I think it is McCaber. And this is so rough, because now is as good of a chance as any to finally get Lal out of the picture....

++McCaber

[Boromir88]

Oh and before I go, if anyone is still doubting my sincerity that I am not the cobbler. Why would I drum up a case against someone who is presumed innocent by everyone (McCaber) when I could try to steer people towards easier targets?

I seriously think McCaber's the last wolf, and it's been attempted to clear his name, slip under the radar. The only person who could counter that would be the seer. Rikae found McCaber and sally suspicious. Rikae ends up dead.

If you don't want to go for McCaber today, Nilp, I say check him out.

edit: bolding the names

[Nerwen]

Oh yes, I must have skimmed past this:

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Izzy, McCaber, and sally make it on Rikae's wolf list. Rikae votes sally, sally ends up being a wolf. Did either Izzy or McCaber believe Rikae was then the seer?

I don't know if there's enough evidence to drum up against McCaber, but I have to go soon and I got a feeling either him or Izzy is the last wolf. Taking into account I don't like McCaber certainty (or his entire post 451)

Seems a bit hasty to go after the 5 remaining "suspicious people," obviously you're off that list McCaber? I think it is McCaber. And this is so rough, because now is as good of a chance as any to finally get Lal out of the picture....

++McCaber

I read your analysis of McCaber, and I just thought it was an honest attempt to cover all bases, but now I see you actually voted him... on awfully thin grounds.

This thing about the wolves thinking Rikae was the Seer, because she mentioned Izzy, McCaber and Sally as guilty– with that premise that Izzy or McCaber is the last wolf– look, at least half the village has mentioned one of the three as a possible wolf at some point.

Had Rikae been the Seer, she couldn't have dreamed both wolves, or she would have told us, wouldn't she? The wolves would know this.

EDIT: X'd since my last post.

[Nogrod]

Izzy!

Check out my #486 and Mac's following one before voting and consider them. You could also look at Nerwen's last one...

If Nerwen is innocent we need her and Nilp can check her the next Night.

We've had enough hasty votes in this game even if everything has turned out well so far. Some mighty providence in the air?

[Nogrod]

To me it would be then either Fëa or Lal. If I'd have to vote right now I would go for Fëa as Lal's style of play would be a bit risky.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Had Rikae been the Seer, she couldn't have dreamed both wolves, or she would have told us, wouldn't she? The wolves would know this.

Exactly. Of course, you could argue if McCaber is a wolf and suspected Rikae to have her knowledge of Sally via a dream, he would have known for sure that he'd be next. But then again, he would have asked himself why she hadn't dreamt of him already (she seriously went after him on Day2, after Sally on Day3) and concluded that Rikae was just smart/lucky. He would have avoided killing her (and hoped she would just find somebody else to go after) to not frame himself.

[Isabellkya]

Well, I suppose I'll not vote for Nerwen and leave her in Nilp's hands.

Boro seems a throw a way vote to me, same for Lal since they are both so darn Cobblery.

Which leaves me with..

++Fea

X'ed since 494

[Macalaure]

Where am I?

Nerwen I suspect but won't vote for the reasons Nogrod gave above.
Fea I highly doubt is the wolf because of her (presumably) fake reveal. Cobbler maybe.
Boro is unlikely to be a wolf - again, possible cobbler.
Nilp is the seer (unless he's the cobbler).
Nogrod is proven innocent (").
McCaber I don't suspect.
Shasta is proven innocent (").
Mith might be a wolf, but I'd like to take a closer look tomorrow.
Izzy I'm not sure about. I'd like to take a closer look at her, too, before I'd want to vote for her.
Lal I have a hard time imagining as a wolf. Another possible cobbler.

May I abstain?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Don't vote for me! I might be irritating and unpredictable, but I'm ordinary (again. tragic. i pined when i learned it...).

++LALWENDE

Because enough other people suspect her that I'm willing to test the theory even though I'd prefer Boro go. But if Nilp dreams of Boro tonight and the Ranger (sorry to go against your orders, Nilp) protects Nilp...

[Nerwen]

The votes so far.

Nilp --> Lalwendë
Lal --> Boro
Boro --> McCaber
Shasta --> Nerwen
Isabellkya --> Fea.

A wide field.

EDIT: X'd since Isabellkya's vote. I see we've all been busy...

[Macalaure]

Looking at the current votes, I'm going to decide between Boro and Lal.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Looking at the current votes, I'm going to decide between Boro and Lal.

Then I guess I will too... though Fea's certainly a puzzle...

EDIT: X'd since Mac at #504.

[McCaber]

If we want to give one wolf the power, this is exactly how to vote.

To narrow the score

++Boro

Probably not a wolf, but I want to get the cobbler out of the way.

[Nogrod]

Lalwendë has 2, Fëa 1 vote.

I'm somehow thinking Lal might be it as she could try to hide behind the monomaniac-stance.

I'm somehow thinking Fëa might be it as she could just hang around like that as a wolf - but I must say her last post looked a bit better - even if I know her to be very much cabable of pulling one like that if in need.

*Mith's words ringing in the back of my mind...*
(And looking at Fëa to suddenly wake up from her sleep at the crucial moment...)

[Lalwendë]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I'm somehow thinking Lal might be it as she could try to hide behind the monomaniac-stance.

I'm not hiding. I'm right. No funny feelings in my water. Just hard evidence.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

(And looking at Fëa to suddenly wake up from her sleep at the crucial moment...)

I've been clear all along: I wanted Boromir lynched from DAY 1. I temper my obsessions based on litmus tests. Everybody else thought for so long that Lal is bad, so I'm willing to find out.

Besides, accusing me now is just lazy. It's a total copout. EVERYBODY knows I'm slightly demented. That's not news.

Stick with the people we've been worried about. There's isn't time today to add more confusion to the mix.

[Mithalwen]

Nerwen - Creepiest
Feanor of the Peredhil - Tweedledum
Boromir88 - Tweedledee
Nilpaurion Felagund - Seer soi-disant. No reason to doubt.
Nogrod - Seer named ordo
McCaber - Creepy but ...
Shastanis Althreduin - Seer named Ordo
Mithalwen - Self named Ordo
Isabellkya - can't writer her off quite despite that vote.
Lalwendë - Cobbler - de facto or actual
Macalaure - Perhaps ought to check my assumption of innocence to prevent self looking silly.....

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Macalaure - Perhaps ought to check my assumption of innocence to prevent self looking silly.....

*admits self being confused to prevent self looking silly*

[Nerwen]

Okay, then. If Nogrod's right, Boro is at most a cobbler, whereas

++Lalwendë

has at least a chance of being furry.

EDIT: X'd since myself at 508.

[Nogrod]

Nilp -> Lalwendë
Lal -> Boro
Boro -> McCaber
Shasta -> Nerwen
Izzy -> Fëa
Fëa -> Lal2

X'd with at least one tally & others...

[Nogrod]

Nilp -> Lalwendë
Lal -> Boro
Boro -> McCaber
Shasta -> Nerwen
Izzy -> Fëa
Fëa -> Lal2
McCaber -> Boro2

Let's not lynch an innocent - even if possibly a cobbler - if we can go for a wolf...

I think Fëa might be the best choice (how come she suddenly emerged in the time of trouble for herself...)

[Boromir88]

Let's not lynch an innocent - even if possibly a cobbler - if we can go for a wolf...~Nogrod

If you don't want to go with my feelings on McCaber today so be it. But get the cobbler out of the way, and I'm asking you trust my instinct that it's Lal.

If I'm wrong, I'll vow one day of silence.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

If you don't want to go with my feelings on McCaber today so be it. But get the cobbler out of the way, and I'm asking you trust my instinct that it's Lal.

If I'm wrong, I'll vow one day of silence.

I'll trust you for now but maybe I am following like a sheep whose wool has been pulled over its eyes...

[Durelin]

Deadline.

Lalwendë has been lynched. She was the Cobbler!

[Nogrod]

I mean I really don't understand your vote McCaber... I must agree with Boro here.

But if we leave Nerwen for toNight, then what say you? I suggest Fëa but it would require a few votes...

X'd with Boro and Nerwen...

[Macalaure]

It just occurred to me that Sally might have just been confused when she voted Boro on Day1 and he might still be a wolf...

Too little time to consider that now, and the votes are going elsewhere anyway:

++Lalwende

[Nogrod]

So Fëa needs to be checked later then... but if I'm not here toMorrow remember to check her sudden appearance toDay... and McCaber's vote, and Nilp check Nerwen...

++ Lalwendë

No reason to try others...