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06-08-2008, 05:03 PM
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Werewolf Psychic
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Now I'm even more confused that yesterday about what this means for Rikae. Until Diamond's death, I was sure after my reading that Rikae was the EW, but.... I don't know now.
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Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV Last edited by Shastanis Althreduin; 06-08-2008 at 05:03 PM. Reason: X'd with Gwath, Sally |
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06-08-2008, 05:04 PM
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Werewolf Psychic
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Also, only one wolf kill tonight.... That makes me think that the EW didn't replace Cailin last night, but the plot alludes to a new wolf, so....
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Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV |
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06-08-2008, 05:11 PM
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Reflection of Darkness
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I knew it. I didn't want to say anything yesterDay to give anything away to the wolves, but as Izzy said...it all seemed too clean. There was no way they could all be lying about claimed roles...so I figured one of the good guys must be lying too. Towards the end, I had a feeling Di might not actually be the GW but the seer instructed (or at her own will) covering for the GW. I was hoping the wolves wouldn't see it this way, but I guess I was wrong...
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06-08-2008, 05:13 PM
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Reflection of Darkness
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There there was no indication of a protection in the narration, I think it's more likely either a gifted or wolf was scryed. One kill= three wolves.
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06-08-2008, 05:31 PM
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Well, Di's role is certainly a surprise. The question is now what we can gather between that and what it means for phantom and Rikae (And consequently Legate).
Here are the possibilities I can think of: A. Di was the seer and dreamed of Cailin. She didn't know who the GW or the other gifted were. This means that we can't really figure out if she knew phantom's role or Legate's role. She didn't dispute phantom's claim, but that may only mean that she doesn't know the identity of the hunter, and so chose to trust phantom because he also wanted to lynch Cailin. B. Di was the seer and dreamed of Cailin. She did know the GW but not the Hunter. She would know Rikae was lying, and chose to trust phantom because again, he was for lynching Legate. C. Di knew both the GW and the hunter's role, and so sided with the hunter, phantom. I can't understand why the GW would risk revealing her identity to the gifted, since they could be turned to wolves and tell the EW. So I'm more prone to believe A. Which means that we can't just immediately jump to conclusions about either phantom or Rikae's roles. However, this doesn't explain Rikae's behavior very well if she is the GW or perhaps the hunter. Of course, there is also the fact that there was only one kill last night, which means that the EW did NOT scry another wolf. Either the EW scried the hunter, and the hunter is now an ordo among us, or the the EW scried the GW, in which case we may expect a challenge soon, but not necessarily. Especially if the evil team is down so low. I need to go through Rikae's posts. I'll be back in... likely a few hours with how much there is to read. Edit: Cross posted with a lot. Well, I guess Rikae has answered the question for me.
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06-08-2008, 05:34 PM
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Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV |
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06-08-2008, 05:36 PM
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edit: xed with Rikae who pretends to be the EW. Nice.
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06-08-2008, 05:37 PM
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Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV |
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06-08-2008, 05:38 PM
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06-08-2008, 05:42 PM
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Shady She-Penguin
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Every cell in me urges me not to follow phantom's directions. I'm not always bad at taking orders, but I'm bad at taking orders from haughty people who behave all too self-consciously and annoy me and whom I'm not sure if I can trust. *le sigh* I mean, I think I can trust tp but I'm not sure, this game is looking more and more complicated...
On the other hand, I was planning to do such a summary toDay anyway, just to force myself to think about some people I have so stupidly let fly under my radar.  And I can't think of any harm that doing it would bring. So, phantom, know this: when (if?) I do the summary, I'm doing it because I planned to do so, not because you requested it. Period.   I also recommed others not to be as rebellious-spirited as I am. I think it's a very good idea to make everybody make a summary... we must just swallow our pride and let tp boss us around... (I can see how he enjoys the situation...) edit: xed with everybody who posted after me
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06-08-2008, 05:37 PM
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06-08-2008, 05:38 PM
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Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV |
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06-08-2008, 05:38 PM
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Actually, I should already be on my way! Sorry, but that's all for now. Follow those three rules I gave you. Good bye.
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06-08-2008, 05:40 PM
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Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV |
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06-08-2008, 05:43 PM
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Mellifluous Maia
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Now Shasta - questioning the GW like that might get you lynched... careful there!
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06-08-2008, 05:40 PM
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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I just want to get in a post real quick before I head off to help with dinner.
I think it is blatantly obvious that the EW either scried the GW or a Gifted. There was only one kill last night - which as I see a few people have pointed out, means only three wolves. Though I do recall something else which was mentioned by Nog about there being new instructions to the wolves - I'd have to look it over to check. I think phantom slipped yesterday, and let it be known that Diamond was not the TRUE GW.. I will even show you where if you don't know.. when I return. As well... the simplest reason for such things.. can be true. Rikae herself said that she was having fun in saying she was the GW. If she were the EW, what more could/would there need to be, in fake revealing herself as the GW - other than to ferret out a gifted or two, as well as the GW. Even flushing out one is gift enough, but all would've been a jackpot. So it seems to me - that the EW or one of the wolves picked up on Diamond as the seer - and thus decided to kill her for it. As well, they could easily scry Phantom, thus getting rid of two gifteds in one night. It is more logical this way - scrying Phantom doesn't allow him to get his dying kill, killing the seer; well why wouldn't they? So I would say, giving up adding an extra wolf to their pack, seems to have been well worth it to be able to get rid of two gifteds in on night. I think there were a few other things I wanted to say, but I had a gazillion thoughts I wanted to get out quickly. I shall return later. X'd since Roa's #986.
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06-08-2008, 05:42 PM
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06-08-2008, 05:44 PM
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06-08-2008, 05:47 PM
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The Sweetest Spoiler
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Nilp-->Rikae at 10:20am
Lhuna-->Sally at 10:20am Izzy-->Diamond at 11:03am Rikae-->Rikae at 11:33am Morm-->Lommie at 12:33pm Roa-->Legate at 2:25pm Diamond-->Cailin at 3:41pm Legate-->Cailin at 4:06pm Kath-->Cailin at 4:50pm Lallie-->Cailin at 4:52pm Cellie-->Cailin at 4:52pm Dure-->Cailin at 4:53pm Brinn-->Cailin at 4:56pm Gwath-->Cailin at 5:00pm Sally-->Cailin at 5:17pm Cailin-->Morm at 5:20pm Lommie-->Cailin at 5:20pm Phantom-->Cailin at 5:27pm Greenie-->Cailin at 5:46pm No voters: Erm....whoever didn't vote. I just realized what time it is, so I'll go through my list later and see who didn't put in their two cents. NOTE: GMT-5 again today. Innocents and Wolves
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06-08-2008, 05:47 PM
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Werewolf Psychic
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As for "acting how", as pertaining to my earlier question, I meant that the GW could act to prevent the former Gifted from becoming a wolf.
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Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV |
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06-08-2008, 05:48 PM
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Mellifluous Maia
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Well, kiddo, I'll play along. Here's my opinion on everybody:
THEY'RE ALL WOLVES! LYNCH THEM ALL! |
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06-08-2008, 05:19 PM
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
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The trick pulled by the good guys is also an interesting thing - of course, it's the loss of the Seer, but then... it helped a lot yesterDay, and depending on the tactics needed, the GW may be still around for longer time (that is, if she was not scried - instead of a wolf kill, for example). Other than that... I am here more like to look at what happened and so that I don't have to catch up on too much. But it's late here and I am probably not going to participate here in any intellectually demanding debates here. Tomorrow. I don't know yet what plans do we have for toDay, in contrary to our overeager Gwathy who voted before the blood on the well even dried. What if somebody has something to say to this aspect, Gwath. If Rikae is for example the EW, there'll be no point voting her.
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06-08-2008, 05:30 PM
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edit: xed with everything after phantom's 975 edit2: sorry, it was 977 edit3: really sorry, it was 978 (the craziness   )
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06-08-2008, 05:06 PM
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Shady She-Penguin
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Wow... we have clever baddies. But a clever ranger as well, it seems. Or then something else. I'm quite baffled.
edit: xed with Shasta
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06-08-2008, 05:06 PM
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*jaw still on floor* Wow. Random turn of events much? On the plus side, a few items: 1. I'm not dead! (yes, I'm slightly selfish. Deal with it) 2. Di was told to lie by the real GW (or at least I assume) 3. This means I definitely trust Phantom now. 4. Our GW is still in hiding. 5. We can all agree that Rikae is evil now, yes? Yes. Although, EW? I don't think so. I'll have to think about it more.
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06-08-2008, 05:09 PM
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The Sweetest Spoiler
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By the way, if someone was saved by the ranger, wouldn't it mention so in the narration? Not necessarily the person's name (that would be silly) but that someone had been saved? Bah. My head's spinning enough as it is.
P.S. If anyone's interested, I'll have votes up from yesterday in a bit. I totally forgot about them earlier though, so it'll be a bit.
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06-08-2008, 05:14 PM
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Shady She-Penguin
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Sally, you're probably right about the ranger. So it means we only have three wolves. Great.
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06-08-2008, 05:17 PM
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Reflection of Darkness
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One other thing:
Before we all decide Rikae is evil (which she probably was yesterDay), there's a chance she was scryed by the GW last Night...which means she could be an ordo now.
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06-08-2008, 05:19 PM
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Werewolf Psychic
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I don't know that the GW would have wasted a scry on a blatantly-evil Rikae when she had a ranger to replace, Brinn....
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Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV Last edited by Shastanis Althreduin; 06-08-2008 at 05:20 PM. Reason: X'ed with Phantom, Legate |
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06-08-2008, 05:30 PM
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Mellifluous Maia
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Well, well, well. After I carried you for nine months, and suffered through 59 hours of labor - after all I have done for you these 21 years, you ungrateful child! Not only do you make yourself my enemy - your poor old mother - but you turn my husband and daughter against me as well! I had such beautiful plans for all of us, and you, you have to go and ruin it all....
come out, son, so I can give you a thrashing you'll never forget!!! EDIT: X'd with everybody since Brinn (including that bad seed...) |
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06-08-2008, 05:34 PM
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Mellifluous Maia
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So, you're still in hiding. I guess you'd like to give me another night, and a fourth wolf, then?
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06-08-2008, 05:18 PM
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Beloved Shadow
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Erm... Gwath... Why did you vote for Rikae?
Without hearing anything from anyone?
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06-08-2008, 05:21 PM
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Beloved Shadow
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By the way folks, what happened yesterday was not planned.
I actually thought Di was an Ordo who simply knew I was telling the truth and thus "revealed" to help me out. Yeah... turns out she was the Seer. She was worried that she had gotten a little too enthusiastic in her support of me, and thus was a goner anyway, and so she just revealed so at least we'd get Cailin lynched. Plus she figured if the WWs killed her the next night she'd still get to dream (which she did) and the GW could simply make a new Seer on Night 5. So anyway, now you know.
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06-08-2008, 05:25 PM
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Beloved Shadow
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A few quick things.
1) Don't vote yet. I have special lynching instructions that will be given to you later on today. 2) Completely ignore anything Rikae says. 3) Make a list of every villager and give your thoughts on them. The GW wishes to see everyone express opinions on everyone else. That's all for now. I have to leave for a while but I'll be back with some more later tonight.
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