What won't be in The Hobbit

[Girl in the Grass]

I don't think the dwarves' song will make it in, or any of the songs for that matter. As for Riddles in the Dark, I have a feeling it will be cut out entirely, with Bilbo just finding the ring, maybe a short confrontation with Gollum, and then getting out of the caves. Beorn's helper animals are probably going to be cut as well. I have a sneaky feeling the dungeons of Mirkwood are going to go the way of Tom Bombadil...

[Morwen]

Originally Posted by Girl in the Grass

I don't think the dwarves' song will make it in, or any of the songs for that matter. As for Riddles in the Dark, I have a feeling it will be cut out entirely, with Bilbo just finding the ring, maybe a short confrontation with Gollum, and then getting out of the caves. Beorn's helper animals are probably going to be cut as well. I have a sneaky feeling the dungeons of Mirkwood are going to go the way of Tom Bombadil...

With respect to the Riddles in the Dark scene, I suppose that it might be shortened but not cut entirely. If you are going to have Gollum in the movie you might as well do his big scene. I would hope that they would want to portray some version of riddle game so that Bilbo can get to ask his famous non - riddle "what have I got in my pocket?" and Gollum will later get to voice his menacing query "What has its gots in its pockets?"

[Makar]

Originally Posted by Girl in the Grass

I don't think the dwarves' song will make it in, or any of the songs for that matter. As for Riddles in the Dark, I have a feeling it will be cut out entirely, with Bilbo just finding the ring, maybe a short confrontation with Gollum, and then getting out of the caves. Beorn's helper animals are probably going to be cut as well. I have a sneaky feeling the dungeons of Mirkwood are going to go the way of Tom Bombadil...

I agree with those who say that Riddles will feature prominently. Along with the Shire and Rivendell, it is one of the links to LotR. Dungeons of Mirkwood are out? Seems unlikely, as this is the link to the Elves at the Battle of the Five Armies as well as Bilbo's burglar training

[William Cloud Hicklin]

The Pukelmen did not make the cartoon or the radio drama and thus were not in the live action film.

Yes they were. They weren't mentioned in dialogue, but they were there, sitting at the road-turnings.

And del Toro has said (someplace) how wonderful he thinks the Riddle chapter is.

[Makar]

Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

Yes they were. They weren't mentioned in dialogue, but they were there, sitting at the road-turnings.

And del Toro has said (someplace) how wonderful he thinks the Riddle chapter is.

Help me out here. They are in the Rankin-Bass RotK?

[Gwathagor]

No, the New Line version.

[Makar]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

No, the New Line version.

Appy polly loggies. I incorrectly said Pukel-men, when I indeed should have referred to Woses or Druedain under Ghan-buri-ghan and the two of you jumped on the fact that Jackson did include the statues of the Pukel-men, who are thought to be ancestors of the group which I intended to discuss. Thanks, guys.

[Makar]

How about the stone giants? In the graphic novel of the Hobbit and the video game, they are portrayed. Doubtless they have no place in the land of PJ.