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Fading Fëanorion
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: into the flood again
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Smaug could have intended to destroy the bridge himself for sheer enjoyment and was thus foiled in that plan. Smaug could have intended to trap fleeing townspeople on the bridge and had hopes of incinerating many with one quick blast and was foiled in that plan. And, as I have repeatedly said, if it was his intention to go on the island he had ample space on the docks which are clearly even wider than the bridge. He did not do so. You infer that he intended to cross the bridge to justify the order to destroy the bridges. Even though that order is somewhat silly and poor military strategy against a fire breathing creature who is attacking you from the air. Its poorly, planned out and poorly written. Burn me at the stake for that. I have no doubt that if this were LOTR, JRRT would have fully fleshed it out so that it made sense. |
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Skyrim, again.
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I'd rather have a dragon attack from the air where he can only burn. On the ground he can burn the same buildings as from the air, destroy them directly, and feed on the townsfolk.
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Join Date: Aug 2006
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Mar 2007
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It is foolish to go back and forth on this since we obviously see this so very very differently. We are repeating ourselves over and over again.
I do not see things your way. I do not see these things the way that you do. I do not make the same assumptions that you do. I do not make the same inferences that you do. You are willing to make jumps in reason and supposition that I am not willing to make. Where you see sense - I see nonsense. |
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Princess of Skwerlz
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles)
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How about if I move this thread to the Mirth forum so that it loses the rancour?!
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*artificial laughter* Of course, hobbit women would be wearing their "smalls"! *raucous artificial laughter* Esty: YES! |
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Doubting Dwimmerlaik
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Heaven's basement
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I'd like to thank whomever posited the observation that Smaug may not have wanted to attack the city entirely from the air, but as there was no bridge or boat to get him to the city, he was forced into plan B, namely to burn the city and hope that the treasures therein would somehow be salvageable. He may even have let some persons go, as they would do the hauling for him for cheap, and when the treasures reached the shore, later he could gather them up along with a snack or two.
Anyway, I finally figured out how the bridge was brought down, and had to look no further than LotR. What aquatic creature was typically found living outside dwelling places which existed that could rip down large wooden structures in seconds? Why, it's the Watcher in the Water! Why couldn't the Laketown persons, like the Morian orcs, have entered into contract with a cousin of said creature? It could feed on any garbage or other stuff dropped down to it, and in return it would guard the bridge. Surely you didn't think that Bard and a few stout fellows were all that protected the town? When Smaug appeared, the creature could have easily thrown down the bridge and then hid in the safety of the deep water, 'cleaning up' those Laketown persons that were 'sinkers.'
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