Treachery of Men Discussion/Planning Thread

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

we need to meet Lachrandir, where is he right now?

Wherever you decide to find him - - on the hunt, not far from the "Ul----" brothers and Tathren.

[Child of the 7th Age]

Save filled. Thorn, your turn. At least I managed to mess up Jord's skirt!

[littlemanpoet]

Save filled. Ouch, that was hard.

[Folwren]

Yes, it didn't look easy. It would have been impossible for me. I can't write verse. Good job.

My save is filled as well.

[Gwathagor]

What needs to happen now? Who is going to find Khandr's body?

[Folwren]

I am not sure what is happening next. Someone in the hunt could post... Someone could find Khandr's body, but I don't know who is going to do that - I believe Lalaith's and Nogrod's character are on their way to find Lachrandir, so they're not available. Unless Thorn finds him.

[Lalaith]

Well we could find Khandr after going to Lachrandir. I suppose.
Am I on next btw?

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Folwren

I am not sure what is happening next. Someone in the hunt could post... Someone could find Khandr's body, but I don't know who is going to do that - I believe Lalaith's and Nogrod's character are on their way to find Lachrandir, so they're not available. Unless Thorn finds him.

Thorn is moving away from Khandr's body. He will not find it.

[Folwren]

Elempi, I think you made a typo or sommit...

Originally Posted by Ulfast

And you!" he said, turning to Ulfast. "Next time you act like my near death is a sideshow for you, I'll put a mark on you where you'll remember it!"

What did you mean really?

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Elempi, I think you made a typo or sommit...What did you mean really?

NO kidding, Elempi, what did you really mean? Ah, Ulwarth, actually. I'll go change it. (Elempi slaps himself on the forehead and tips over) CRASH!!!!! (oops)

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

NO kidding, Elempi, what did you really mean? Ah, Ulwarth, actually. I'll go change it. (Elempi slaps himself on the forehead and tips over) CRASH!!!!! (oops)

*Folwren tiptoes around the table to look down at him.* Are you entirely well, old chap?

Good! If it's Ulwarth, I should have something interesting to write.

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Folwren

*Folwren tiptoes around the table to look down at him.* Are you entirely well, old chap?

Elempi lifts his head and looks up at Foley. "Oh, I'm fine. Just you go knock yourself out writing a post (after a manner of speaking).

Good! If it's Ulwarth, I should have something interesting to write.

I eagerly awayt. (yes I know the spelling's wrong but I like it somehow)

[Folwren]

Knock myself out? No thanks. I see what that can do to a person.

I'll write a post tomorrow morning if I don't get 'round to it tonight after the movie. Mom and Pop went out to watch the Super Bowl, so my younger siblings and I are going to eat pizza and watch Star Wars III. Harrah!

[Folwren]

I should tell everyone that I'm going to be gone from Sunday the 10 to Sunday the 17, that's all week next week. Carry my charaters if necessarily.

[Lalaith]

That´s kind of you to offer elempi but not necessary, its much better that you moved the story on as you did.

[Lalaith]

Abject apologies for the appallingly tardy post.
It's up now, and if it's any consolation, I'm around most of this week. I can therefore be slightly less crap than I have been, in moving the story along, if anyone else is around too.

[Nogrod]

Good to see this thing moving forwards Lalaith!

I made a short post as well.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the Ulfing lords are indeed around and thence the situation is quite awkward for Embla and Fastarr... If I'm mistaken I will edit my post accordingly.

[littlemanpoet]

Here's the idea. Because Lachrandir can do osanwë, he is going to believe Nogrod's and Lalaith's characters. Then when Thorn comes and tells him the same thing, only with more details, namely about Jord/Thuringwethil and her ties to Morgoth Bauglir, well the jig is up, isn't it? We can't have Lachrandir go back and tell Caranthir the wrong thing, now, can we? So instead, Jord/Thuringwethil realizes that something did not go as she wished since Khandr did not die in complete despair; she knows some intervention occurred, but she does not know what or how or where from. Can she still turn herself into some other creature, like a bat? If so, this will be easier. She turns herself, and flies back toward Khandr's lodgings, and senses the flight of Fastarr and Embla, and gives chase. She bypasses Uldor and brother, and reaches Lachrandir, Fastarr and Embla, and finds Thorn with them, telling Lachrandir everything, and he believes. Jord must therefore fix things. She wrests Fastarr's sword, murders Lachrandir and Thorn, and shoos the two humans away, setting up the frame. She then meets up with Uldor and Ulfast separately (each unaware of the other) and they both find the bodies and Fastarr's sword, and they accuse the Borrim of treachery and murder. That leaves it to Tathren to return to Caranthir with the news of Lachrandir's death, the treachery of the Borrim, and the resolute loyaly of the Ulfings.

What do you think?

Okay, you're probably wondering why I want to kill off both of my characters. It's because I'm going to leave the Barrowdowns; not because of anything wrong, it's just time. But I want to see all of my commitments through, including this one. Let me know.

[Gwathagor]

I am content. As long as I get to kill people.

[Folwren]

It makes sense. I wanted Uldor to kill him, but I guess he can't, if he wants to try to frame somebody else. Bummer. He has perfect reason to, now.

No, no, it looks good, Elempi. *sigh* If it's absolutely necessary. Can you write Tathren all the way out of the city?

Once Lachrandir is gone and the Borrim have separated from the Ulfings, we should travel on swiftly to the battle and end it. Hopefully before June...before my schedule goes whacko and I cease to be around so much during camp.

Now, I believe hte Borrim were supposed to still fight on the elves and men's side? If Tathren goes bearing tales of treachery, will that allow the history to remain in tact? I can't look anything up tonight, so this'll take a little bit of research, but we should be able to twist somethings to make it work out.

[littlemanpoet]

That shouldn't be so hard, Foley. Fastarr and Embla can flee to some other Elven group beside Caranthir. With what Elven group did the Borrim fight?

[Folwren]

I thought this morning that Uldor could still have Thorn killed. If Thorn comes to Lachrandir, it's not absolutely out of the question that he could be caught by one of Brodda's or Uldor's henchmen. Then he could be brought to Uldor, as Uldor wished earlier, and from there, things would progress quickly and end, undoubtedly, in Thorn's termination.

Can we do that? Thuringwethil can have Lachrandir (presumabely, she doesn't know about Thorn), and Uldor, suspecting Thorn from when he first contacted Khandir, can deal with that old man.

[littlemanpoet]

Makes sense to me.

[Folwren]

And you grin about it. Oh! The morbidness of all this is almost scary. (Is morbidness even a word? I doubt it.)

[littlemanpoet]

I believe "morbidity" is the more common rendering. This is a smile-> This is a grin-> My smile was intended to reflect my willingness to cooperate.

[Lalaith]

Elempi, I'm sorry to hear you're going.

As for what the Borrim should do...historically, as it were, the sons of Bor (Borlad, Borlach and Borthand) followed Maedhros and Maglor, while the Ulflings marched with Caranthir.
It is important, canonically, that no elf that marches to the Nirnaeth should have any inkling as to the treachery of the Easterlings. So I suggest the following:
a. Fastarr and Embla, who know the truth, do not go back to the Borrim. I think they should be thoroughly terrified by the whole affair, and go perhaps to Embla's people.
b. The rest of the Borrim - Briga and co - would also bring troubled tidings, so perhaps they do not get back in time; the sons of Bor have already left with Maedhros and Maglor when they return?
c. Tathren - if he tells Caranthir of alleged Borrim treachery, why do the Borrim still march with Maedhros and co? Communication issues between the brethren?

[littlemanpoet]

We need someone besides me to post next. Who will it be?

I think the Sil has the ambassadorship to the Ulfings reporting back to to Caranthir, so if Lachrandir does not survive, Tathren must.

Fastarr and Embla can continue to write their adventures (ahem love story) as long as the thread continues. Who knows where it might take them?

[Folwren]

I will write a post just as soon as I have both time and inspiration on my hands. That being said, the earliest time that I'll have time is Saturday...but that will be after a very, very, very busy week and my inspiration as well as creativity may be at a very, very low ebb. So.....Sunday evening? Monday morning?

What I mean to say is, I don't know when I'll be able to post. So if anyone arrives to post before I do, go ahead and do it. As of now, I believe that Lailath or Nogrod, or even Gwathagor, or Pio or Noinkling, if their about, can post..... Even Elempi could post for Thorn, possibly.

Dury, I grasped your joke at the very outset, I just wasn't sure if I'd interpretted it correctly. (Dumb internet...)

[Folwren]

Tell me if I've jumped the gun somewhat.

[littlemanpoet]

My post does not appear to me to exclude Brodda taking him to the great hall. Continue with your plans.

[Folwren]

Elempi,

I took them all the way to the hall, as you've likely observed. If you wanted to put anything before that, let me know. I can easily edit.

Also, I didn't say to what degree of roughness the guard handled Thorn with. I didn't want to say 'led' as that could seem too gentle, depending on what you were thinking. I also did not want to say 'dragged' becasue that seemed too rough... So you get to make the call as to how he's treated.

-- Folwren

[littlemanpoet]

That's a great post, Lalaith!

I'm finding myself confused about location, however. Lachrandir and the Ulfing lords have been on the hunt, and nobody ever moved them in their writing back to town. So my picture of this has been out in the wild, with Fastarr & Embla running away from the village into the wild to find them (which would be hard, no doubt); and Thorn would have been walking in that direction too until turned around and let to the great hall. But now Embla and Fastarr are with Lachrandir in the great hall, I presume, which is, I suppose, okay, if we understand that they've traveled for perhaps 15 to 30 minutes to get there. Or am I missing something?

I'll post by the end of the weekend.

[littlemanpoet]

I would prefer not to be the next person to post, as I did last, but if nobody else does by the end of the weekend, I will.

[Folwren]

I'll post for Uldor until after Nogrod has filled his save.

[Folwren]

Sounds fine, Nogrod.

I'm leaving tomorrow morning early and will not come in contact with a computer again with enough time or energy to post until Sunday afternoon or evening.

-- Folwren