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Old 04-19-2003, 10:51 AM   #4
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when gandalf says something like: i am going to see the head of my order, he is both wise and... something like that, doesnt he talk as if saruman was stronger? also, saruman was able to imprison him as gandalf the grey. i think this shows that saruman was actually strongest.
until gandalf came back as gandalf the white of course. on a side note- did they still call him mithrandir when he was gandalf thw white? it wouldnt make sense, seeing as he was no longer grey.
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