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Old 04-27-2005, 12:07 AM   #1
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Feanor and Diplomacy

Feanor, by sheer force of will, could unite all the elves under his banner, except for Thingol. Both are egomaniacs and power mongers who are more interested in advancing themselves than the people they rule.
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Old 04-27-2005, 12:12 PM   #2
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Feanor, by sheer force of will, could unite all the elves under his banner, except for Thingol. Both are egomaniacs and power mongers who are more interested in advancing themselves than the people they rule.
FEANOR might be an egomaniac and a power-monger, although I wouldn't use those exact terms myself, but I do not see any such case for Thingol.

An egomaniac is a person who is concerned first and foremost with himself/herself. In what way is Thingol like this? His first concerns are for his people: he protects them in war, guards them from the troublesome Noldor, refuses to bring them into doomed battles. He also cares for his family: he doesn't want to see Luthien hurt by marrying a mortal, but when he cannot change that, he accepts Beren, and mourns his death. Later, he accepts Turin, and when Turin leaves Doriath, he does his best to safeguard him and have him brought back. These are not the actions of an ego-maniac.

As for a power-monger, if Thingol was concerned first and foremost with power, would he have permitted the Noldor to settle AT ALL in Beleriand? Would he have tolerated the power of Morgoth and the Noldorin kings? No, he would have been right there with them, striving for the top-dog position.

I'm not saying that Thingol was perfect, but give the guy a bit of credit. The record in The Silmarillion doesn't show him as THAT bad.
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Old 04-27-2005, 12:25 PM   #3
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...the hallowed Silmaril tolerated him, and filled him with its light. Had he been as War Bringer describes, the Silmaril would have burnt him as it burnt poor Maedhros and Maglor.

The death of Feanor's father sent him fey, far more so even than usual. Fey characters in literature and history are doomed, incapable of actions that are not two-edged in their destruction. Had Feanor reacted in a saner way, and been able to calm down, he would not, as others have said, have been Feanor.
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