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Fingolfin II · 01-13-2005, 08:13 PM

Alas, no

.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 01-16-2005, 03:25 PM

I need a clue Fin II.

This puzzle is aching my brain off. For anyone else who wants to give it a shot, I'm going to post all the relevant words I could think of:

Turin's mother
Morwen
Eledhwen
Elfsheen

The Golden Wood
Lorien
Lothlorian
Laurenindorenan
Lindorinand
Land of the Blossom
Land of the Valley of Singing Gold
Dwimordene
Valley of Gold
Vale of the Land of the Singers

There were also Stewards Turin I & II of Gondor, but I haven't yet found their mothers' names.

Sophia

Fingolfin II · 01-16-2005, 07:01 PM

Really, Sophia, you give me too much credit. It's a pretty easy question, though unfortunately not as witty as the ones posed in this thread. It kind of makes sense, but in a subtle way; almost non-existent you could say. Anyway, I'll stop babbling and give you two clues-

1.) It doesn't make sense in the conventional way that you'd expect (i.e. Thorin III Stonehelm's Deep or Carrock of the Music of Water), but rather describes a general feeling. Hard to explain, hopefully this will help more-

2.) You mentioned both parts it in your list of names.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 01-20-2005, 04:20 AM

more clue, more clue! I don't understand what you mean by "general feeling", and I can come up with some interesting rhymes, but no real before-and-after phrase...

Help me, FinII, you're my only hope!

Sophe

Fingolfin II · 01-20-2005, 05:43 PM

By general feeling, I kind of mean- hmm what do I mean? Well, what I hope I mean is that you get this 'feeling' or you sense this when you go to this place. Believe me, there are no rhymes in this answer- when I came up with it, it seemed pretty random but yeah, it kind of fits. Anyway, the second part of the answer is "Lothlorien" (or Lorien).

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 01-23-2005, 12:30 AM

Unwilling to let this thread be re-killed and re-buried, I thought I'd put forward:

Elfsheen of Lorien?

Sense, nonsense, or has Sophia missed the point?

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 01-25-2005, 02:41 AM

Evil Sorcerer's home, new residence of Symbolically Immortal Father

Sophia

01-13-2005, 08:13 PM	#1
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Alas, no . __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

01-16-2005, 03:25 PM	#2
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	I need a clue Fin II. This puzzle is aching my brain off. For anyone else who wants to give it a shot, I'm going to post all the relevant words I could think of: Turin's mother Morwen Eledhwen Elfsheen The Golden Wood Lorien Lothlorian Laurenindorenan Lindorinand Land of the Blossom Land of the Valley of Singing Gold Dwimordene Valley of Gold Vale of the Land of the Singers There were also Stewards Turin I & II of Gondor, but I haven't yet found their mothers' names. Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

01-16-2005, 07:01 PM	#3
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Really, Sophia, you give me too much credit. It's a pretty easy question, though unfortunately not as witty as the ones posed in this thread. It kind of makes sense, but in a subtle way; almost non-existent you could say. Anyway, I'll stop babbling and give you two clues- 1.) It doesn't make sense in the conventional way that you'd expect (i.e. Thorin III Stonehelm's Deep or Carrock of the Music of Water), but rather describes a general feeling. Hard to explain, hopefully this will help more- 2.) You mentioned both parts it in your list of names. __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

01-20-2005, 04:20 AM	#4
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	*looks pitiful* more clue, more clue! I don't understand what you mean by "general feeling", and I can come up with some interesting rhymes, but no real before-and-after phrase... Help me, FinII, you're my only hope! Sophe __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

01-20-2005, 05:43 PM	#5
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	By general feeling, I kind of mean- hmm what do I mean? Well, what I hope I mean is that you get this 'feeling' or you sense this when you go to this place. Believe me, there are no rhymes in this answer- when I came up with it, it seemed pretty random but yeah, it kind of fits. Anyway, the second part of the answer is "Lothlorien" (or Lorien). __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

01-23-2005, 12:30 AM	#6
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Like a Nazgul on Weathertop she takes a stab in the dark... Unwilling to let this thread be re-killed and re-buried, I thought I'd put forward: Elfsheen of Lorien? Sense, nonsense, or has Sophia missed the point? __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

01-25-2005, 02:41 AM	#7
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	Since FinII pmed me to say the above was right, I'll put forward a new clue. Evil Sorcerer's home, new residence of Symbolically Immortal Father Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

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