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Anybody who's seen Wheel of Fortune will be familiar with the category where they take two phrases and run them together, for example: "Coffee Break A Leg" from "coffee break" and "break a leg".

This is the ME version! The asker will hint at the phrases and then it will be up to you to come up with the combined Phrase. Here's a rather silly example for you to see how it works:

Q: Mirkwood, ancestral home of the Took family.

A: Greenwood the Great Smials

Okay, here's the first question:

It took Oin to Cuivienen.

Good luck!

Sophia

*Note* Phrim helped me very much with this game *bows to Phrim*. I came up with the idea, and the clue to the answer of the first question... but the clever phrase that results is entirely his. *Round of Applause* Muchas Gracias.

[ July 07, 2003: Message edited by: Sophia the Thunder Mistress ]

Well, after a little help [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] I've got:

Watcher in the Waters of Awakening.

As the Watcher in the water killed Oin, the Waters of Awakening is what Cuivienen is.

*nods* Very good! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Now make the next one...

[img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]Sophia

Eep, yes ma'm.

A melty place that was fortold by Mandos.

[img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Mount Doom of Mandos?

Well, I was going for "Mount Doom of the Noldor", but I'll give it to you. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Sorry for the delay. Some major event had driven it out of mind. I must be related to Ol' Barliman. Anyhow, here we go.
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Thorin Oakenshield's heart swore an oath to Isildur here, but later broke it.

Is it the Arkenstone of Erech?

Correct.

*bump* Your go Alak. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Thank you.

The successor of Morgoth and Hador.

Hm..I've got "Sauron" and the "Easterlings", but they're not going together in any way I can see. Hador died, and when Morgoth overtook his kingdom, he gave it to the Easterlings..

Er, Sauron the Black Easterling perhaps then? The 'Black Easterling', of course, was Khamul, a Ringwraith.

The Dark Lord of Dor-Lomin?

Sophia's going to kill you, Saucepan. She figured it out while she was in Indy but she didn't have a chance to get to a computer.

Yes, Saucepan is correct. The board is now yours. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Thanks, alak. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Oops, not a good idea to get on the wrong side of a Thunder Mistress. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] So, without further ado, a clue:

An equine obstacle to the Dark Land.

Is it Rohan?

Asfaloth Lorien?

No, not Rohan. You need to bring together two different Tolkien-related concepts, the clues to each of which are in the question. Er, difficult to explain, but its best to look at the earlier questions for examples of what's involved.

[img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] I'm not sure that Galadriel would appreciate her realm being referred to as the Dark Land though, Turambar. No, that's not it - but you're on the right track. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

I didn't think that was right, but maybe Lothlorien could be an "obstacle" to the Black Land . . .

Back to the drawing board. Equine obstacle . . equine obstacle . . .

Arod Lithui ?

[ July 30, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

Um, Hasufel to the Black Gate?

Nope, neither of those, although Arod Lithui is closer than you might think. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Arod Engrin or Arod Gorgoroth?

Arod is not in the answer. Think of another horse. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Roheryn Lasgalen ??

Same problem as Asfaloth Lorien probably.

No. The horse in question is just about the most famous one you can think of. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Mountains of Shadowfax?

That's the one, phantom. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Please proceed.

Thanks [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

A building dedicated to Hador.

the House of Hador, perhaps?

It's not quite that easy. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

How about Lorindol Guldur?

It's not quite that hard. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

Golden Head Quarters ? [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

More Tolkienish than that.

Well, I guess a hint is in order.

Turambar, you were right to include "golden" in your guess.

The Golden House of Hador [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

I'm looking for a specific building.

(in other words, it has a name)