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Old 03-14-2003, 11:54 AM   #11
Mornie Alantie
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Can you give me the words of that spell? or most others that are said in ME. As we said before, Gandalf is a Maia and that is not the same as magic, magic. Most "spells" are just words in elvish that say "door open" if you read the elvish they used for the movie when Arwen is at the river she is just using normal elvish to tell the river (which if we are going to go that far we could say Ulmo) to wash away the ringwraiths.

It is insinuated throughout the whole LOTR world that it is not an occult type magic/power but a divinely given by Illuvitar natural power. When Tolkien rights the word "spells" in his book does it mean that Gandalf spent years in Valinor reading spellbooks and such? No. The Valar and the Maia were given that power specifically by Illuvitar and another lesser power but still great to the Elves.

My whole point is that there is very little "magic" magic in the LOTR.
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