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			Posts: 5</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Orion The Bilbo/Frodo thing 2930 of the top of my heads - I have no books at work! But didtnt they both become 50 years old in those years??? </p> 
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			Posts: 499</TD><TD><img src=http://www.dodgywebsite.homestead.com/files/Kungfu_01.gif WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Orion Hrmm....where has Gwaihir got to?? <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":/"> - enep</p> 
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			Posts: 28</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Incorrect analogies First of all my math is all wrong! Bilbo becomes 50 in 2940 so thats my wild guess. As I didn't have my books I researched the barrowdowns analogies and found that Frodo Baggins is born in TA 2969 BUT this is wrong!!! FRODO IS BORN IN TA 2968!!! Still the quess is probably along the wrong lines ... as enep I await thee Gwaihir Cheers Telchar </p> 
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			Posts: 597</TD><TD><img src=http://www.dodgywebsite.homestead.com/files/Kungfu_01.gif WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Incorrect analogies Not quite sure where's he got too...It's been some time (about 350 posts <img src=tongue.gif ALT=":b"> ) so I'll ask a new one: The River Sirion is to Beleriand as the River ____ is to Middle Earth? Not the best analogy, but just to get things started...<img src=smile.gif ALT="  ">   - enep</p> 
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			Posts: 103</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Incorrect analogies Sirion WAS in ME - anyway you're thinking of Anduin. Cheers Telchar </p> 
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			Posts: 104</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Incorrect analogies Hey look Im a Wight - Hit me enep By the way how many posts must I make before I become a good guy??? </p> 
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			Posts: 601</TD><TD><img src=http://www.dodgywebsite.homestead.com/files/Kungfu_01.gif WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Incorrect analogies Nay, Beleriand was and is never called ME. Sort of like Europe and Asia - they're connected, but are considered different continents, if you know what I mean. Anyway, you're answer is correct. <img src=smile.gif ALT="  ">  With regard to your 'rank', you never become a 'good guy', as you are in a barrow - you can only decay <img src=biggrin.gif ALT=" ">  There's a thread somewhere in the Barrow-Downs forum that lists all the 'ranks.'  - enep</p> 
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			Posts: 107</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Incorrect analogies OK! Lightfoot is to Snowmane as Melian is to __________? The ME/Beleriand I'll put in a thread under "books" to hear peoples opinion - I don't agree - I allways understood it like there was Middle Earth and Aman - but Im propably wrong! </p> 
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	Posts: 28</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Incorrect analogies Lightfoot was Snowmane's mother, therefore the answer is Luthien. </p>  | 
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	Posts: 33</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Analogies Here goes. Merry is to Pippin, as Gollum is to _______. </p>  | 
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			Posts: 120</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Analogies Deagol... Allthough Merry never drowend pippin <img src=smile.gif ALT="  "> Cheers Telchar </p> 
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	Posts: 37</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Analogies You are correct, they were cousins. Your turn Telchar. </p>  | 
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			Posts: 128</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Analogies OK Angrist is to Telchar as Narsil id to _________ </p> 
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			Posts: 135</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Analogies Indeed - Ask us! </p> 
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	Posts: 281</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Analogies Silmarils are to Feanor as _______ is to Enerdhil. </p>  | 
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			Posts: 159</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Analogies Either the first or the only Elessar, depending how you interpret UT. </p> 
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			Posts: 166</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> analogies Frodo is to Bilbo as Aragorn is to ________ </p> 
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	Posts: 46</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: analogies The best answer I can think of is 'Elrond'. He took the place of Aragorn's father, as Bilbo did for Frodo. </p>  | 
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			Posts: 198</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies No Beregond - You are both going along the wrong lines. Although both your answers could be right - they are not the one I had in mind. </p> 
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	Posts: 386</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies You're not thinking of Elendil, are you? Frodo is the heir of Bilbo, and Araagorn refers to himself as the heir of Elendil. That seems strained, though. </p>  | 
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			Posts: 206</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies Actually I made up my mind to accept both Elendil and Isildur, as Aragorn calls himself the Heir of them both. So go on Odysseus <img src=smile.gif ALT="  ">   </p> 
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	Posts: 392</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies You got it Telchar. <img src=grin.gif ALT=">D"> By practice taught, I have learned patience, having much endured By tempest and in battle both. Come then This evil also! I am well prepared.</p>  | 
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	Posts: 909</TD><TD><img src=http://www.tolkiens-legacy.de/draugen.jpg WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies Théoden is to Old English/Anglo-Saxon as Vinitharya (original name of Eldacar) is to...? 'To open the eternal worlds, to open the immortal eyes of man inwards, into the worlds of thought, into Eternity.'</p>  | 
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	Posts: 394</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies Wild guess -- Latin? By practice taught, I have learned patience, having much endured By tempest and in battle both. Come then This evil also! I am well prepared.</p>  | 
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			Posts: 224</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies Eldacar lived ca TA 1500! The name Vinitharya was given to him by the Northmen of Rhovanion who some 500 years later were known as the Eothéod - Im can only guess that the name Vinitharya too would come from Old English/Anglo-Saxon - but it doesn't seem right and probably isn't <img src=cool.gif ALT="8)"> Anar kaluva tielyanna!</p> 
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	Posts: 910</TD><TD><img src=http://www.tolkiens-legacy.de/draugen.jpg WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies Neither is right, but both guesses aren't too far off. 'To open the eternal worlds, to open the immortal eyes of man inwards, into the worlds of thought, into Eternity.'</p>  | 
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	Posts: 54</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies Gaelic? </p>  | 
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	Posts: 912</TD><TD><img src=http://www.tolkiens-legacy.de/draugen.jpg WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies 'G' is a good start; but logic also demands that is related to the language of the Rohirrim. 'To open the eternal worlds, to open the immortal eyes of man inwards, into the worlds of thought, into Eternity.'</p>  | 
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			Posts: 257</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies Then I would quess Celtic Anar kaluva tielyanna!</p> 
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	Posts: 913</TD><TD><img src=http://www.tolkiens-legacy.de/draugen.jpg WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies Which so nicely starts with a 'G' <img src=wink.gif ALT="  ">   'To open the eternal worlds, to open the immortal eyes of man inwards, into the worlds of thought, into Eternity.'</p>  | 
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