Awakened Analogies

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I like this game; but as all the other threads for it have been closed I'll start off again.

An analagous relationship is created between two people, places or things. Such as the question 'The Orc is to Elves as the Troll is to ___'. The answer is Ents. Orcs were made in mockery of Elves and Trolls were made in mockery of Ents. Of course most are more tricky than this.

First one: 'Forochel is to Avedui as Haudh-en-Elleth is to ______'.

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Finduilas?

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Yes; both were the resting places of those people. Ask away, but keep to the analogy theme.

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Sorry for being so late in posting, here's my question:

Dorlas is to Brandir like Ulfang is to _

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Re: Awakened Analogies

I guess Maedhros. Dorlas proved unfaithful to Brandir; Ulfang proved unfaithful to Maedhros.

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Re: Awakened Analogies

One hundred posts later and still no confirmation?

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Sorry Gwaihir, I forgot this thread. You're correct. Ask away.

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Re: Awakened Analogies

The Silmarils are to Feanor as ___ are to Yavanna.

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Re: Awakened Analogies

The Silmarills are to Feanor as The Two Trees are to Yavanna.

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Yes; both their greatest achievements. Ask us!

(Caught you, D (I hope). Do you think you could pass your judgement on my work over in the Sil canon forum?)

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Looks good to me Gwaihir, one thing to remember though, we are just editing, nothing is being rewritten by us.

Ok, here goes.

Saruman is to Radagast as Alatar is to___________

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Pallando

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Re: Awakened Analogies

correct H-I

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Bilbo is to Gerontius Took as Merry and Pippin to ___

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Adalgrim Took?

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Re: Awakened Analogies

the answer I was looking for was Bandobras (meaning that as Bilbo grew lder than Old Took, so Pippin and Merry were taller than Bullroarer) But oyur answer fits in as well as mine - Gerontius indeed was Bilbo's grandfather, as well as Adalgrim Pippin's and Merry's.So, it's your turn to ask

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Since I am currently v. much fascinated by astronomy...
...the star known to us as Betelgeuze is to Menelvagor like the star known in Middle-Earth as Borgil is to...?

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Borgil

Erm...Orion? Borgil is Betelguese, if I am not wrong. And Menelvagor is Orion.

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Re: Borgil

So, what's the answer to the analogy...?

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Orion

Orion would be my answer...

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Re: Orion

The point is that Borgil is most probably not Betelgeuse - at least my analogy is based on that <img src=wink.gif ALT="">
Would be a very stupid analogy anyway if so (a is to b like a to b...very hard).

Therefore Orion cannot be the answer, but would if Borgil was Betelgeuze. So if Borgil is not Betelgeuze, and therefore not in Orion...

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Uh

Oh...I thought Borgil was Betelguese...My other thought would be Betelguese - Menelvagor (Betelguese being the brightest star in that constellation) or is that Sirius? I've never been crash-hot at astronomy. And Borgil - Valacirca, the brightest star there. After looking that up it makes Borgil the Star Merak...which points to the pole star. Hmm. <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":/">

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Re: Uh

Since Borgil is described as a very bright, big red star north from Menelvagor, I took it to be Aldebaran; let this be a small hint; Betelgeuse in Menelvagor, Aldebaran in???

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Re: Uh

No, I'm not much good at astromomy of any sort, I'm afraid. I'm not going to be much use here.

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Re: Uh

It's all in the books.

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Re: Uh

Betelguese is a big, red star; Carnil is too. My last-gasp answer would be Carnil.

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Re: Uh

star-constellation; star-???

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Re: Uh

I don't even know what Brogil is, to be frank. I can't find it in any of my books.

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Non-Astronomer's resource

Gwaihir: The amazing resource for people like myself and yourself who no basically nothing about astonomy: http://www.glyphweb.com/eskywww.glyphweb.com/esky</a> is on the same server as the Encyclopedia of Arda. Using this superior resource, I guess your answer to be Taurus. Aldebaran is the eye of Taurus. Although the Encyclopedia of Arda says that Borgil IS Betelguese. Stupid Encyclopedia.

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Re: Non-Astronomer's resource

Yep, Taurus is correct.
(I would have accepted the answer 'Remirrath, the Netted Stars' (found in LOTR), too, although we do not know whether these aren't more likely the Pleyades.)

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Hmm

Thanks...it did have the Pleiades in there but...anyway. I can't think of any hard ones so a simple one will have to do:
Beren is to Luthien like Tuor is to....
A bit too easy perhaps <img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes">

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Re: Hmm

Beren is to Luthien as Tuor is to Idril[/

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Yup

That is coorrect. Sorry I couldn't think of a more challenging one. <img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes">

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Re: Yup

Sometimes it's nice to be able to answer without having to think too hard or to look it up. <img src=wink.gif ALT="">

Frodo is to 3018 as Bilbo is to _____.

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Adventures

Frodo is to 3018 as Bilbo is to...2941? Both the years on which Frodo and Bilbo had their adventures...Frodo to destroy the ring, Bilbo with the dwarves on the Quest of Erebor.

It is nice to be able to do that. But it doesn't happen very often <img src=wink.gif ALT="">

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Re: Adventures

maybe you are not correct, enep. perhaps gwaihir wishes the year frodo came in possession of the ring

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Hmm

I never said I was right; but that's a good point. Multiple answer analogies. <img src=wink.gif ALT="">

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Re: Hmm

Its not like there is a very big difference anyway.

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Re: Orion

The awnser plainly is the planet Mars!
Borgil is the Warstar Bor-Gil funnt that Mars was the wargod of the roman empire ... LOL Good ol JRR

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Re: Orion

Also called Red Borgil - I think you guys got it wrong, quite sure its statet in the letters somewhere that Borgil is Mars!!!

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