View Single Post
Old 10-17-2024, 05:34 AM   #12
Arvegil145
Shade of Carn Dûm
 
Arvegil145's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Tol Morwen
Posts: 369
Arvegil145 has just left Hobbiton.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huinesoron View Post
I would guess that the Hadorian Nazgul is someone close to the royal house of Numenor. Tar-Telperiën the long-lived is my usual guess, but if you want another named character, her brother Isilmo is a good bet: embittered by his sister's claim on the sceptre that "should be his". This is probably the Witch-King(/Queen).
I've seen the 'Isilmo might be the Witch-King' idea before, but personally I never bought into the idea that anyone on the House of Elros family tree (at least those who are named) turned into Nazgul, not because there were no individuals on it who were rotten enough but because none of them really fit the timeline or geography.

For example, you might argue that Isilmo, on his death's door, decided to take up one of the Nine...but...Sauron didn't visit Numenor until he was brought there by Pharazon; and I doubt the very elderly Isilmo would be making voyages to Middle-earth - and even if he did, why would Sauron entrust one of the Nine to someone who either:

1) will soon be dead anyway, and therefore completely useless to him

or

2) would have his life extended via one of the Nine, but in turn could probably never return to Numenor and cause chaos there since everyone would be incredibly suspicious of a 400 year old individual suddenly regaining his vigor and then potentially living for a few hundred years more!


Which leads me to my problem with the rest of your post - why would Sauron seek out some obscure remnant of, say, the Haladin (who were all but gone at this point in every relevant way) if his goal was to pick out influential figures across Numenor and Middle-earth?

After all, that was the entire point of him giving away the Great Rings in the first place!

With that said, the 3 Numenorean Nazgul were IMO all colonists.

...or maybe the Witch-king was Tal-elmar . (I'm only c. 80% joking here actually.)
__________________
Quote:
Hige sceal þē heardra, heorte þē cēnre,
mōd sceal þē māre, þē ūre mægen lytlað.
Arvegil145 is offline   Reply With Quote