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Originally Posted by Arvegil145
The pain only begins when you try to square the 'early legendarium' with the very round 'later legendarium'.
In actuality, the adjustment to the YS altogether only involves abandoning certain events. And the birth dates should be kept as they were in the AAm, at least in spacing.
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The "Final Timeline" is taken entirely from sources after the Annals of Aman, or the Annals themselves (other than Maitirussa); it's all post-LotR 'late legendarium'.
Abandoning certain events is probably the only way you could do it; for the pre-Beleriand era, I would recommend discarding everything which is sourced to the Annals.
The Noldor can arrive in Beleriand, and then leave 2500 years later; what happens between is a mystery.
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Originally Posted by Findegil
Form the start the project was one of editing text's not writing them. Our editorial additions were small and most often just single words of gramatical necessity. I can not imagin how that could be true of a Time Line that we could create. We don't have the necessary sources for that! And if we had the Tale of the Years of the first age completly, I doubt that an updated version would satisfy Arvegil145's wishes: There would be lots of dates we could not enter, so we would be decently sure of their placment, because we would not have an apropirate source text to work with. Look at the Tale of the Yeas of the second and third age as found in the Appendix of LotR. Are they what you would wish for? Probably not, but that is about what we could get under the rules of the project.
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If you allow simple calculations, a mostly-complete timeline of the pre-Beleriand days can be gotten by combining NoME 1.XIII.1 (the latest "Key Dates" timeline, running down to the Great Debate) with NoME 1.VII (the latest timeline of the Great March); both are written on a 1 VY = 144 sun-years timescale, and both are in something close to the "Tale of Years style", or somewhere between that and the Annals. But as you say, the further you get into relative dating, the less it becomes just editing what Tolkien wrote.
hS