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Old 01-30-2010, 06:26 AM   #54
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Originally Posted by Eönwë View Post
But actually, the particular passage you referred to may suggest that there is a difference between orcs and goblins, so perhaps we were wrong:

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Originally Posted by LOTR, TT, Helm's Deep
'But these creatures of Isengard, these half-orcs and goblin-men that the foul craft of Saruman has bred, they will not quail at the sun,'
However, it may show that he was just emphasising his point by using both, in which case there were in fact two different words
No– even if "orc" and "goblin" are interchangeable, it still doesn't follow that "half-orcs" and "goblin-men" must be the same thing (and thus that "goblin-men" is redundant)– it might refer to beings who differed in their amount of Orcish vs human blood or characteristics.
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