[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

First a business failure and now I'm faced with being murdered. Great. Well, all I can say is that whoever tries to kill me in my sleep will find me with a suply of weapons behind me. Break my sword and I pick up my axe. Woe be to the wraith who crosses with me!

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

The correlation of Jupiter in concert with Mars, Mercury, and Venus says by way of the four elements that there is danger in this town! With Mars ascendant, our foes are clearly under the influence of fire, while the angle of Mercury mixes with that of our moon to state clearly that our dear innkeeper has the protection of water. Venus's Sixth House is in the descendant; this tells us our ranger is a very earthy, grounded person. And finally, Jupiter's height in the astral sphere is an analog of the numbers 66.245 and 19093.34; going by this, my calculations are that anyone bearing a strange piece of jewelry, while not only airheaded and judgement-clouded by air, is also extremely susceptible to evil influence.

Any further readings will cost you a pint of ale per fifteen minutes. I can read anything in the stars you desire!

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Originally Posted by Durelin

Durelin sat alone at a table in a dark corner of the common room, an untouched mug in front of him. He wears a cloak, though the inn is comfortably warm, its hood drawn up to hide the majority of his face. He must not draw attention to himself, not if he is to complete his task. Of course, he wondered now if he had been foolish to come here, foolish to risk searching at all...

This new evil presence, he thought, the wraiths...they turn the night into my enemy, which is normally my greatest ally...

As the common room grew more and more excited, Durelin did his best to remain inconspicuous, drawing his dark cloak more tightly to him.

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Originally Posted by Brinniel

One hour into the Day, and already I see plenty of in-character bantering. I hate to disappoint, but my posts won't be nearly as amusing. Because right now it is late and my sleeping pill is kicking in...so surely you can't expect me to think properly until morning.

And while all this banter and in-character stuff is entertaining for the time being, I'm hoping we'll have progressed to some more substantial discussion by the time I return. Day one is always tricky, but using in-character posts as a crutch certainly won't help us.

Going to sleep now, but in the meantime, feel free to help yourself to some pie.

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

What a terrible, terrible thing! Such a lively young wench she was (and so fond of my special brew). Well, let's have drinks all round, in her memory. Except for that Ranger feller; he's had his share already. Besides, I don't rightly hold with these here Rangers...



*scratches head* Hmmn. Sounds fair. Here's a pint. Who did 'er in, then?

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

You, most probably.

I have only twenty minutes now, so excuse me for bantering this little. Off to business then...

There's eighteen of us and only three ringwraiths. Granted, there's an informer to help them, but still, I would say our situation looks quite good.

Which exactly might be the problem. Villages with the setting that favours the innocent surprisingly often leads to their loss, because they become careless and entangled in silly discussions because they feel no hurry to catch the wolves. So let's not do that this time.

And *hint hint* that also means we could move away from banter to more serious suttf, if anyone has anything at all to say.

So maybe I'll start about that.

My opinion on this bantering? It annoys me a little because I subconsciously assume this game has already been going for for 5-8 hours although in reality, we only started 3h ago. So I should not be harsh.

But given that there were so many people around, one could imagine they'd have come up with something. Anything. Even such sort of useless and obvious discussion about roles and setting like I just started. So, do we have just a few ordos having fun? A cobbler messing around *glares at Gollum and sally* or even wolves who feel the most comfortable talking nonsense?

*happy sigh* I missed ww. Hmm, anyway, I'd better leave for work in ten minutes. I'll be back in ten hours or a bit more, I hope I can expect everybody has posted by then and that there will be talk - about other subjects than mattresses, drinks and stellar signs too....

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

People are not postiiiing, yah-dah-dah-dadey...

Everybody's laaaa-zyyyy...

This way, comrades, this way we won't ever build that socialism.

Erm... okay. Hey, but our comrades in the Shire almost succeeded already... just need to get rid of a few Baggins exploiters and everything's gonna be fine...

The Shire needs five thousand new tractors. Why is there a weapons dealer, and not a tractor dealer?

All hail to the People's Republic of Michel Delving! Waiting for comrade Sharkey to arrive to set things right.

Hobbitton needs a new mill.

And what about our village? Are we going to stay behind? I take the pledge to supply Bree with five hundred herrings per day. Every herring is a serious blow to the Western imperialism. Which means probably the Dwarves from the Blue Mountains. Yeah, they think they have a monopoly on everything.

Bree needs to produce more charcoal! Heaps all over the edges of Chetwood.

Or are you not going to post in order to make me being silly here? Yes, pretty much succesful.

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

Hello bunnies.

What is it that the day has been going for six hours and there's already two pages? I'm not used to this. *okay reads the two pages and is not surprised anymore*

I am concerned about Menel based solely on the narration. Something more sinister just sounds awfully bad!


I'm Capricorn. Or Sagittarius. I'm not quite sure which one. I wonder what that makes me, Sagittarius being a fire sign and Capricorn an earth one.


Thank you! Mmm... this is goo- WHAT? A finger!


Thus far. However I find it quite possible the wraiths will learn Ferny's identity soon enough as xe can give them xer opinions etc. Plus, if the wraiths attack the Ring-bearer they get a fourth member to their team. In the worst case there might sooner or later be five baddies around.

I'm not overly fond of the banter either. I find showing off with my post count worth my while only when I've actually posted some serious substance.


Liar. You're Cancer. That is, a crab.

Okay some things about the roles.

The seer cannot trust xer dreams completely as Ferny is revealed as an ordo. I assume Ferny counts as an ordo in numbers, then, too? Has the seer dreamed already?

I wonder what should be done with Frodo. We might not want to lynch xem as long as xe's an ordo but we also wouldn't like to get xem wolf-killed.

Comrade Legate is being sensible. However, the situation being as it is, I think the Socialist Republic of Breeland needs a strong intelligency agency to spy on every citizen in order to find the wrongdoers. Let's make this a police state until things are solved!

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Originally Posted by Beregond

Having labored all day to complete it, Beregond sharpens the edge of the sword he had made a week ago.

"It's not pretty, but it should get the job done. I've never been much use making blades, but I have been improving my art."

He sticks it deep into an old chipped and mangled wooden block in the corner of his shop. Then he checks the tip.

"Hmmm. Not bad, not bad. Been getting some pointers from Gollum. Creepy fellow, and talkative, but I've never met anyone so knowledgeable.

I'm going to keep this sword on my side from hereon. Can't be too careful. Can't get the image of... of... No, rather not think about that. What we need to do is find these wraiths, or whatever they are, and see they don't do us no more harm!

I have suspicions, but it's real hard to see under the cloaks, so to speak. And I've happened to notice, only nine out of the nineteen or so people in our village have even spoke out yet. Ten, now. But wouldn't a wraith want to stay out of the sunlight, so to speak? Maybe none of them have posted at all. But wraiths are crafty folk - so I've heard from the elders, I haven't seen them myself - and by posting they could avoid suspicion, or try. Now, like I said before Gollum is a strange one, and he talks more'n I've heard before, but I can't fix him as an evil one. Maybe I owe him too much. Who else, then: Sally? Shasta? Durelin? Nerwen? I dunno about them. I have a feeling Brinn could be something other than she seems - she was the first to really encourage proper discussion and then she left, almost to deflect suspicion and avoid notice all in one. I don't know about the rest of you, but I just don't know as she is who she says she is."

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Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Hello, children. I meant to stop in this morning at work, except I um... couldn't access the... village...

Anyway, I'm here and my only goal for day one is to try to scare wolves by attempting to vote for one, given that logically their only real fear on Day 1 is to be accidentally caught, since they haven't left behind any clues yet that could actually lead straight to them.

I think... Sally.

Sally shall be my go-to person for a lynch target for now.

She just seems to enthusiastic, and I tend to find that the more enthusiastic players on day one usually have a special role.

So I shall just go take a bit of my belladonna now, nap for a little while, take advantage of an unexpectedly free afternoon...

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Originally Posted by Mirandir

Hello all! Like Fea I couldn't access the village when I had the chance earlier... And now I must be leaving for class shortly and thus can't probably analyze, well, anything. With any luck job 1 won't wear me out to the point where I can't post during job 2.

In the meantime, I feel that Gollum is probably not to blame. It would be far too obvious for a traveling weapons designer to cut off poor Kitanna's head. Or would it...?

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Originally Posted by Lariren Shadow

Sorry about the lack of ale bringing but I needed time to recover from the shock(read class). Would anyone like anything while I'm here for the next, oh, eight minutes?

As for my sign I am a Sagittarius which actually does say a lot more about me than it should.

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Sorry to come in this late but I actually had a 14-hour workday today and have basically just come home and eaten the first time today (10PM). I'll be reading next and come back then.

So it seems I'm not able to stand behind my promise to post only once on Day1 but I'll try to keep my posting in two posts toDay.

Let's see if I can meet that goal...

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Originally Posted by A Little Green

Huh. I tried to access the Downs some five and a half hours ago but failed. I'm here only now and must vote soon since I need to go to sleep. What bothers me (easy to say of course, having been absent myself) is the lack of actual discussion. Yeah, Day 1, I know, but still. Nearly two pages of stuff (suttf?) and hardly anything to comment on. Bah.

The problem is I have no idea who I can vote, or even on what grounds should I vote since there just isn't enough material to base any opinions on. I even have no gut feelings, which is a bit alarming in itself.

Like Agan, I will certainly not vote a first-timer out on a Day like this when I have as vague opinions on everyone. I will also not vote anyone who has attempted some actual game discussion toDay. I will not vote anyone who hasn't appeared yet since that's plain evil because I have no way of knowing how that particular person behaves in this game.

Now that I've complained and whined enough, I can start thinking. I'll let Lommins in soon, but I could do with some discussion before that. Is there anyone around?


EDIT: Evidently. x-ed since Beregond's 62 (Are there any nicknames for you, by the way? Beregond is waaaay too long!)

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

Whoa... an entire first page with nothing but in-character banter? *thumbs up*

Let's derail the whole game and talk about astrology instead, shall we? Legate deludes himself into thinking he's a two fishes and Aganzir doesn't know what she is at all. This topic has potential!
(Agan, just find out your birth time and use one of the many online calculators.)

Oh, and I'm a Libra with more planets in Scorpio than is good for me. And now I'm wondering whether I should try to lynch all squaring and opposing cardinal or all squaring and opposing fixed villagers first. *evil grin*


Alright, to business. We have two interesting new fellas in our village, Mister Underhill and Mister Ferny. While Mister Underhill is a pure and innocent hobbit, he might want to get himself killed should it at some time look as if fate stands against us - to secure victory at least for himself. Mister Ferny is a good-for-nothing if there's ever been one. I'm not sure, however, how much his special ability will help him. Since he can only send a name, and no reasoning, his guess at gifteds is actually worse than each wraith's own one. As Aganzir (I think) said, he might use his ability to identify himself to the wraiths. (Ha! I wonder whether he'll be gutsy enough to dare give his own name to this end in Night 2.)
Anyway, especially with this conscious cursed villager around, it's extra important to get a wraith or two early on.



If I understand you correctly, then Frodo-ish behaviour is behaviour meant to get oneself killed. Unless Frodo decides to give hints (for which we should look, of course), the best plan for him (if his plan is to get himself killed, which we don't know) is to either act seerish or appear as innocent and unlikely to lynch as possible - but those people we certainly should not start lynching because of that. The exception I could think of would be a seerish person who keeps and keeps on living.



Frodo just wants to win. If the innocent side seems stronger, he'll try to avoid being killed (like everybody), if the evil side seems stronger, he might try to set himself up. I don't think he tries to be killed from toDay on.



I don't like zem eizer, but now I'm tempted to start using zem just to annoy you.


There seems to be a bit of a confusion as to who our and the wraiths' main targets are. Us: wraiths. Wraiths: Butterbur. And it will stay like that unless Butterbur is dead or some uncommon situation arises.


I don't have any suspects yet... I need to change that...

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Shasta, you're an Aquarius, correct?

Even showing up as late as I did, I almost had the opportunity to make my point about Mr. Underhill before anyone else, but then Nog had to go and mess it up for me. Eh. Revealing may be the best thing Frodo can do for the village. If we know who he is, as soon as a kill is missed (Frodo is changed) we can lynch him. Also, there is no incentive for a baddie to falsely reveal as Frodo, since changing the real Frodo will get the false Frodo lynched. Maybe he could serve as a known innocent of sorts? Nevertheless, it's up to the ringbearer.

On the other hand, if Bill Ferny doesn't count as a baddie in the head count, he is really no more powerful than a cobbler who has the ability to clue the wolves in to his own identity. This gives us some hope of catching him, as well as the wolves, since, knowing no more than any ordinary villager, the most he can realistically do is use daytime hints in addition to his nighttime messages to help the wolves find him.

By the way, I'm a Pisces (a real one).

EDIT: X'd with the whole page and God only knows what else. By the way, I'm a fan of the gender-neutral pronouns, myself, but since we have a built-in gender for our gifted characters in this game, I went with that.

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Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

I disagree with you Legate, I do not think that Brinn or Lommy has said anything of substanse. . . It is just the usual "look at me I am all serious about the game" nonsense that allways pops up, it is no more usefull than the in charachter banter, but it is less intertaining.

It would be foolish of me to assume them evil because of these comments, but it is worth taking a note about. It shows that they to some degree would like to be viewed as people who are focused on catching the evil-doers.

Anyways I am afraid I won't be around much today, I have many things that needs tending to.
(I am babysitting my little brother)

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Originally Posted by Meneltarmacil

Urghhh. I'm sorry to be late, guys. I'm having the worst hangover ever after last night and

**BBBLLLAAAARRRRGGGHHH**

Ooh, sorry. I'll go clean that up.

Anyhow, about this post:

Now, now, I think Nog will probably last until Day 2, given my presence.

OK, about Ferny and the Ringbearer, I agree that Frodo should reveal xyrself to us at some point, but probably not on Day One or Day Two. Three might be a good time to consider it. As for Ferny, I suggest looking at those who ask a lot of prying questions while shying away from revealing xyr findings to us (that is, gathering information but not letting us in on it).

Now I'd like another beer, please. I need to drink this terrible headache off, and Macalaure's post about Frodo is not helping it either.

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