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Old 06-05-2005, 10:36 AM   #106
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Question What can I say ...

Fordim, you are right to place me at the top of your suspicion list. Given that she was innocent, anyone who voted for Evisse is bound to attract suspicion, and rightfully so. And I was one of the most vocal in calling for her to be lynched. The Werewolves would have known that she was innocent (although not that she was the Seer), and I believe that at least one would have voted for her. I fully accept, therefore, that I am a target for lynching today (heck, it may have saved me from being killed last night). All I can say is that I am innocent, and simply (one might say foolishly) misread the signs. To Evisse, wherever she may now be, I offer my wholehearted apologies.

I certainly did detect in her contributions a certain amount of hedging. That was what convinced me to vote for her (prompted, as I note below, by Kuruharan). Now, with the benefit of hindsight, the reason for her hedging is clear. As I said, I misread the signs.

First off, I stand by what I said yesterday. I still consider Fordim's proposals to have been a perfect device for quickly identifying the Seer and reducing the number of Villagers early on. Obviously, I misapplied that belief badly, but I stand by the basic premise. (I would add that I am not against an organised strategy per se, but I see it as difficult to devise one which will not favour the Werewoves more, given their greater pre-existing knowledge.) I therefore remain suspicious of Fordim and agree with others that the gruesome murder of our poor Bard, one who voted for him yesterday, seems a little too convenient in seemingly placing him in the clear. I would also reiterate that, in making his proposals, he caused us to spend a lot of time yesterday discussing them rather than trying to find the Werewolves. If it was a tactic to create confusion, it clearly worked. I also remain suspicious of SoN, who accepted Fordim's proposals with little explanation.

But let's look at those who voted for Evisse, and when they voted. They were as follows (in order):

Shelob
The Saucepan Man
Kuruharan
The Phantom
The Only Real Estel


(Interestingly, Fordim listed them the other way round ...)

Now, with just over two hours to go, I was still undecided between Fordim, Evisse and SoN. I dismissed voting for Fordim because it would look like a knee-jerk reaction to his vote for me and also because, if he is a Werewolf, he was unlikely to have instigated my death during the night having voted for me. But it was Kuruharan's comments that tipped me towards Evisse rather than SoN. He drew attention to her "hedging" comments and, fortified by that, I began to concentrate on her rather than SoN. Was Kuru, knowing that Evisse was innocent, trying to lead me (and the other innocent Villagers) towards her and away from SoN? It is quite possible.

Shelob voted first for Evisse, claiming not to have had time to have read the full discussion. Perhaps she rather than (or even in addition to) Kuru was trying to lead the vote away from SoN and towards Evisse.

The phantom also voted for Evisse. But this was at a stage where it was really either him or her, so it is understandable. It does not put him in the clear, but it makes his vote for Evisse less suspicious in my eyes.

The remaining person to vote for Evisse was The Only Real Estel. But he voted at a time when he could have acheived a double-lynching (the phantom and Evisse). So, unless the phantom is a Werewolf, that speaks in his favour. In other words, it seems likely that if the phantom is innocent, then TORE probably is too. Conversely, if TORE is a Werewolf, then the phantom is likely also to be one.

So, my suspicions are currently directed towards Fordim, Kuruharan, Shelob and SoN. And I am now particularly suspicious of Kuru, given his approach of saying nothing controversial, but building subtly on what others have said to direct the thoughts of the Villagers in a certain direction.

But these are mere suspicions at this stage. I do not wish to say more nor put it any higher for the time being since, given the outcome of yesterday’s voting, I am sorely afraid now of being too decisive in my opinions …
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Last edited by The Saucepan Man; 06-05-2005 at 11:00 AM. Reason: To exlain a bit better what I meant ...
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