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Old 02-13-2003, 12:48 AM   #38
MLD-Grounds-Keeper-Willie
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Fain Clawmirth

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Gollum's ignorance of the experience of kindness caused him to deny that call to Love, and he chose to return to darkness.
No, that is not necessarily the case. It was Gollum's addiction to the ring that was resisting the conversion of Gollum to 'the good side'. And although it resisted the change, I believe that Gollum would have changed if it weren't for Sam. I'm speaking mainly of the chapter The Stairs of Cirith Ungol. I think that was the turning point in the struggle with Gollum, and Sam tipped the balance for the dark Gollum; that was the final nail in the coffin. It wasn't his ignorance. And we can't really say he was ignorant either since we don't know if he was familiar with kindness before the ring.

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What is behind greed, if not fear? The fear of not having enough, of someone having what you want, of what will happen if you do not have it all? Greed is a product of fear because when it is taken to its conclusion, there is a "must have or else" obsessive quality to it.
No, greed is not a product of fear. It's the other way around; fear is a product of greed. Greed comes first. You have to have the desire for something before you have the fera of losing it. Why? Because how can you fear losing something you don't even have. Once you have it, you have to selfishly and greedily want to keep the ring, before the fear of losing it ever happens. So once again I say that it is not fear, it is greed.

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