Password

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Hopefully not sick!


1. NAROG - born at Eithel Ivrin

3. NEN LALAITH?

7. SEA?

7 is close, but also wrong.

[Urwen]

1. NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
2. Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
3. NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
4. A line of defense was here. (4)
5. Green, and one of the six. (3)
6. The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
7. It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

[Pervinca Took]

Huey, you once cleanswept one of my passwords - the I-DRANN one. All in one go, IIRC.

7. Anduin? (Referring to Isildur).

5. Dragon, if there are six named inns?

2. Cabed en Aras?

6. Lindon?

[Urwen]

None are correct.

Well, Anduin is, but not for 7.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

None are correct.

Well, Anduin is, but not for 7.

Is Anduin 6, referencing the breaking of the Fellowship (or possibly where the Nazgul split up? I feel like they separated while crossing some river on the way to the Shire). That would make the password [checks] NNNNNNN, apparently.

hS

[Urwen]

NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
2. Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
4. A line of defense was here. (4)
5. Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
7. It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

[Pervinca Took]

NENNING for the password?

4. SARN FORD, guarded by the Rangers?

[Urwen]

Yes to the password, no to the other.

NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
E: Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
N: A line of defense was here. (4)
I: Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
G: It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

[Pervinca Took]

I - DUILWEN - 'green river,' and one of a group of six.

[Urwen]

NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
E: Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
N: A line of defense was here. (4)
DUILWEN: Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
G: It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

[Pervinca Took]

G - GLADDEN?

Although Isildur was a father of four.

(I had thought before that he died in the Anduin - hence my previous (wrong) guess).

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

G - GLADDEN?

Although Isildur was a father of four.

(I had thought before that he died in the Anduin - hence my previous (wrong) guess).

That clue says 'forementioned three', not just 'three'.

Now, which father famously had three kids, who are all 'forementioned'?

[Pervinca Took]

Hurin.

Is G the odd one out? Because in a sense he dies of GRIEF?

Or is it the GULF of somewhere that he chucks himself into in the end?

I think his 3 kids each appear in one of the first 6 clues - either in the clue or the answer.

E is TEIGLIN, I think. If so, I was very close with Cabed-an-Aras!

And Carnen, Harnen and Isen could all have been said to have a line of defence at some time, I think.

P.S. Was Turin healed where the Narog began?

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Hurin.

Is G the odd one out? Because in a sense he dies of GRIEF?

Or is it the GULF of somewhere that he chucks himself into in the end?

I think his 3 kids each appear in one of the first 6 clues - either in the clue or the answer.

E is TEIGLIN, I think. If so, I was very close with Cabed-an-Aras!

And Carnen, Harnen and Isen could all have been said to have a line of defence at some time, I think.

P.S. Was Turin healed where the Narog began?

Yes, Turin is the one healed. And Hurin threw himself into Belegaer. What's another name for Belegaer?

Also, I had another answer in mind for 4th clue, but Isen fits as well, so...should I make you find the answer I intended or just put in Isen?

[Urwen]

NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
TEIGLIN: Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
N: A line of defense was here. (4)
DUILWEN: Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
G: It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Yes, Turin is the one healed. And Hurin threw himself into Belegaer. What's another name for Belegaer?

I mean, we've gone through a bunch of possibilities... GREAT SEA?

Originally Posted by Urwen

Also, I had another answer in mind for 4th clue, but Isen fits as well, so...should I make you find the answer I intended or just put in Isen?

I for one am game to keep guessing, but I might need a pointer in the right direction. Perhaps a hint about where or when this defense line was.

[Urwen]

NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
TEIGLIN: Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
N: A line of defense was here. (4)
DUILWEN: Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
GREAT SEA: It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I mean, we've gone through a bunch of possibilities... GREAT SEA?



I for one am game to keep guessing, but I might need a pointer in the right direction. Perhaps a hint about where or when this defense line was.

For where, northwestern Eriador. For when, during Elendil's time.

[Pervinca Took]

Is the last one the GLANDUIN?

Oh - *that's* what you meant by a mirror password!

(I made one that shape once and called it a chevron).

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Is the last one the GLANDUIN?

Oh - *that's* what you meant by a mirror password!

(I made one that shape once and called it a chevron).

No, it's shorter than that.

[Pervinca Took]

Lhûn.

A line of defence is specifically mentioned in association with it on Tolkien Gateway.

[Urwen]

NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
TEIGLIN: Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
LHUN: A line of defense was here. (4)
DUILWEN: Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
GREAT SEA: It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

This one is inspired by my new title, ngl.

And proceed.

[Pervinca Took]

And jolly good it was. But what's your new title?

I have a puzzle stored, but bear with me. It's on my laptop, there isn't enough signal in the bedroom to get it from there to here, and I've injured a tendon in my arm.

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

And jolly good it was. But what's your new title?

You didn't notice yet?

[Pervinca Took]

Originally Posted by Urwen

You didn't notice yet?

I have now. I was looking a bit under the user name, not directly under it.

[Pervinca Took]

1. Descriptive moniker for a heavenly person.
2. Bilbo was sent to find this kind of information.
3. Five of these make one line of pentameter in ‘King Lear.’
4. He appears to have shared Shelley’s and Ophelia’s fate.
5. Deceive or lounge – doubly satanic?
6. She’s in the loo, we hear! And quite mixed up.
7. Two prepositions? Goes before the woods, musically.
8. A sailor is a little confused at the parting word.
9. A riser loses, initially, but the sun rises here.
10. Spectacles with publicity inside? Gloomy things, though!

[Urwen]

I'll make an educated guess for 4. Since it says 'he', and not 'she', it has to be Drogo.

[Galadriel55]

1. Angelica?

3. ...iamb?

[Pervinca Took]

Originally Posted by Urwen

I'll make an educated guess for 4. Since it says 'he', and not 'she', it has to be Drogo.

Nope. Other folks drowned besides them pesky Bagginses.

[Pervinca Took]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

1. Angelica?

3. ...iamb?

Afraid not.

An iamb would work for any line of strict iambic pentameter, and would not be confined to King Lear.

[Urwen]

4. Isildur?

[Pervinca Took]

Originally Posted by Urwen

4. Isildur?

No.

Didn't he die mostly from orc arrows, BTW?

[Pervinca Took]

I'll give you a hint for the King Lear one. It's from one of Lear's very last speeches. Grief-stricken, he has carried in the dead Cordelia, and it comes after 'Thou'llt come no more.'

And thinking about it, that particular line is in *trochaic* pentameter, not iambic.

[Urwen]

Ecthelion for 4, then?

*looks up people who drowned* There is also Hurin, if one is technical about it. Fall in the sea and you drown. Or one of many nameless Numenoreans, for same reasons.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

*looks up people who drowned* There is also Hurin, if one is technical about it. Fall in the sea and you drown. Or one of many nameless Numenoreans, for same reasons.

And Amroth, I think - at least, he jumped off a boat and was never seen again, so "appears" would seem to fit.

#5: deceive or lounge is LIE, but I'm not sure if that's the full answer.

#2: By the chapter title, Bilbo was after INSIDE information.

As for Lear, he has a habit of repeating words (at one point he drops six 'kill's in a row), but I think the one you're after is NEVER.

hS

[Pervinca Took]

1. Descriptive moniker for a heavenly person.
INSIDE: Bilbo was sent to find this kind of information.
NEVER: Five of these make one line of pentameter in ‘King Lear.’
AMROTH: He appears to have shared Shelley’s and Ophelia’s fate.
LIE: Deceive or lounge – doubly satanic?
6. She’s in the loo, we hear! And quite mixed up.
7. Two prepositions? Goes before the woods, musically.
8. A sailor is a little confused at the parting word.
9. A riser loses, initially, but the sun rises here.
10. Spectacles with publicity inside? Gloomy things, though!

Well, Sloth is one of the Deadly Sins, and not lying is one of the Commandments, (which means I'm stuffed, for a start! Well, on the first count).

And Lear also says 'Sa, sa, sa, sa' at one point. Not a whole pentameter of it, though.

[Urwen]

6. Luthien (IN THE LOO)

[Pervinca Took]

1. Descriptive moniker for a heavenly person.
INSIDE: Bilbo was sent to find this kind of information.
NEVER: Five of these make one line of pentameter in ‘King Lear.’
AMROTH: He appears to have shared Shelley’s and Ophelia’s fate.
LIE: Deceive or lounge – doubly satanic?
LUTHIEN: She’s in the loo, we hear! And quite mixed up.
7. Two prepositions? Goes before the woods, musically.
8. A sailor is a little confused at the parting word.
9. A riser loses, initially, but the sun rises here.
10. Spectacles with publicity inside? Gloomy things, though!

Yes - IN THE LU moved round.

[Urwen]

I'm assuming that the 'No' applies to both of G55's guesses up there?

[Pervinca Took]

Originally Posted by Urwen

I'm assuming that the 'No' applies to both of G55's guesses up there?

Yes, it does.