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Old 07-12-2021, 04:27 PM   #11441
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New one.

1. Something that knights say, England and a conjuction, all for her.
2. Air, right now. In disarray, she is there.
3. He is full of enthusiasm (Rearranged)
4. Returning direction and a male name lead to her.
5. Spanish article and pronoun form an Elven king.
6. In a mirror, things that go on and on reveal him.
7. God ran in circles. He appears.
8. Transition (movie-wise) an evil robot and a particle come together for him.
9. An ancient nomad tribe, sans direction, and a Norse God. For someone done in by a rock.
10. Confused ladies find a way, for her.
11. Maeglin loses a head, for him.
12. A preposition between a long and short direction. It's all in disarray, and backwards. For him.
13. Note a throne in disarray, for him.
14. An entrance, an article and a direction. All in the muddle. For a king.
15. Boaz's wife returns endlessly. Add a preposition for a tragic hero.
16. An element precedes muddled destruction, for him.

Finding different ways to portray the same answer is fun.
1. Or NIENOR? OR = a whole conjunction.

5. EL-WE.

7. ANGROD.

10. MORWEN. (R + WOMEN).

11. (M)ORLEG.

15. TURIN (endless RUTH+ In)
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Old 07-13-2021, 03:04 AM   #11442
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NIENOR: Something that knights say, England and a conjuction, all for her.
2. Air, right now. In disarray, she is there.
3. He is full of enthusiasm (Rearranged)
4. Returning direction and a male name lead to her.
ELWE: Spanish article and pronoun form an Elven king.
6. In a mirror, things that go on and on reveal him.
7. God ran in circles. He appears.
8. Transition (movie-wise) an evil robot and a particle come together for him.
9. An ancient nomad tribe, sans direction, and a Norse God. For someone done in by a rock.
MORWEN: Confused ladies find a way, for her.
ORLEG: Maeglin loses a head, for him.
12. A preposition between a long and short direction. It's all in disarray, and backwards. For him.
13. Note a throne in disarray, for him.
14. An entrance, an article and a direction. All in the muddle. For a king.
TURIN: Boaz's wife returns endlessly. Add a preposition for a tragic hero.
16. An element precedes muddled destruction, for him.
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Old 07-13-2021, 03:17 AM   #11443
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Is ANGROD right for number 7?
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Old 07-13-2021, 03:37 AM   #11444
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14. Orodreth.

Door + the + r.

16. HURIN.

H + RUIN.
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Old 07-13-2021, 03:46 AM   #11445
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13. Gethron.

G + throne.
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Old 07-13-2021, 04:12 AM   #11446
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#8: Cut + HAL-9000 + ion = CUTHALION.

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Old 07-13-2021, 04:37 AM   #11447
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Is the password an elvish phrase meaning ENEMIES OF MORGOTH?

NOTTO can mean enemy.

Something ending in MORGOTH, anyway.
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Old 07-13-2021, 06:53 AM   #11448
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Is the password an elvish phrase meaning ENEMIES OF MORGOTH?

NOTTO can mean enemy.

Something ending in MORGOTH, anyway.

It is an Elvish phrase, but it doesn't mean that.
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Old 07-13-2021, 06:58 AM   #11449
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NIENOR: Something that knights say, England and a conjuction, all for her.
2. Air, right now. In disarray, she is there.
3. He is full of enthusiasm (Rearranged)
4. Returning direction and a male name lead to her.
ELWE: Spanish article and pronoun form an Elven king.
6. In a mirror, things that go on and on reveal him.
7. God ran in circles. He appears.
8. Transition (movie-wise) an evil robot and a particle come together for him.
9. An ancient nomad tribe, sans direction, and a Norse God. For someone done in by a rock.
MORWEN: Confused ladies find a way, for her.
ORLEG: Maeglin loses a head, for him.
12. A preposition between a long and short direction. It's all in disarray, and backwards. For him.
GETHRON: Note a throne in disarray, for him.
ORODRETH: An entrance, an article and a direction. All in the muddle. For a king.
TURIN: Boaz's wife returns endlessly. Add a preposition for a tragic hero.
HURIN: An element precedes muddled destruction, for him.
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Old 07-13-2021, 06:59 AM   #11450
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Is ANGROD right for number 7?

Obviously not, or I would have put it in...
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Old 07-13-2021, 07:25 AM   #11451
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Obviously not, or I would have put it in...
Well, I've forgotten to put one in now and then. Apologies for assuming you might not be 100% perfect all the time.
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Old 07-13-2021, 08:45 AM   #11452
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Well, I've forgotten to put one in now and then. Apologies for assuming you might not be 100% perfect all the time.
Of course she is; just ask Turin, he'll tell you! "All the warmth of his heart was for [Urwen] his sister" and all that.

Shame, 'cos I was really pleased at spotting Cuthalion. Too much of a chemist for my own good, clearly.

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Old 07-13-2021, 09:10 AM   #11453
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Well, Turin isn't exactly a reliable source...

NIENOR: Something that knights say, England and a conjuction, all for her.
2. Air, right now. In disarray, she is there.
3. He is full of enthusiasm (Rearranged)
4. Returning direction and a male name lead to her.
ELWE: Spanish article and pronoun form an Elven king.
6. In a mirror, things that go on and on reveal him.
7. God ran in circles. He appears.
CUTHALION: Transition (movie-wise) an evil robot and a particle come together for him.
9. An ancient nomad tribe, sans direction, and a Norse God. For someone done in by a rock.
MORWEN: Confused ladies find a way, for her.
ORLEG: Maeglin loses a head, for him.
12. A preposition between a long and short direction. It's all in disarray, and backwards. For him.
GETHRON: Note a throne in disarray, for him.
ORODRETH: An entrance, an article and a direction. All in the muddle. For a king.
TURIN: Boaz's wife returns endlessly. Add a preposition for a tragic hero.
HURIN: An element precedes muddled destruction, for him.
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Old 07-14-2021, 06:34 AM   #11454
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#9: First thought was Anarion, but then I remembered Turin's buddy who got unceremoniously clonked over the head while stalking Glaurung. A quick look in CoH shows me he's HUNTHOR, ie Hun[s] + Thor.

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Old 07-14-2021, 06:38 AM   #11455
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NIENOR: Something that knights say, England and a conjuction, all for her.
2. Air, right now. In disarray, she is there.
3. He is full of enthusiasm (Rearranged)
4. Returning direction and a male name lead to her.
ELWE: Spanish article and pronoun form an Elven king.
6. In a mirror, things that go on and on reveal him.
7. God ran in circles. He appears.
CUTHALION: Transition (movie-wise) an evil robot and a particle come together for him.
HUNTHOR: An ancient nomad tribe, sans direction, and a Norse God. For someone done in by a rock.
MORWEN: Confused ladies find a way, for her.
ORLEG: Maeglin loses a head, for him.
12. A preposition between a long and short direction. It's all in disarray, and backwards. For him.
GETHRON: Note a throne in disarray, for him.
ORODRETH: An entrance, an article and a direction. All in the muddle. For a king.
TURIN: Boaz's wife returns endlessly. Add a preposition for a tragic hero.
HURIN: An element precedes muddled destruction, for him.
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Is ANGROD right for number 7?
If not Angrod, could it be ANDROG?
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Old 07-14-2021, 01:25 PM   #11457
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NIENOR: Something that knights say, England and a conjuction, all for her.
2. Air, right now. In disarray, she is there.
3. He is full of enthusiasm (Rearranged)
4. Returning direction and a male name lead to her.
ELWE: Spanish article and pronoun form an Elven king.
6. In a mirror, things that go on and on reveal him.
ANDROG: God ran in circles. He appears.
CUTHALION: Transition (movie-wise) an evil robot and a particle come together for him.
HUNTHOR: An ancient nomad tribe, sans direction, and a Norse God. For someone done in by a rock.
MORWEN: Confused ladies find a way, for her.
ORLEG: Maeglin loses a head, for him.
12. A preposition between a long and short direction. It's all in disarray, and backwards. For him.
GETHRON: Note a throne in disarray, for him.
ORODRETH: An entrance, an article and a direction. All in the muddle. For a king.
TURIN: Boaz's wife returns endlessly. Add a preposition for a tragic hero.
HURIN: An element precedes muddled destruction, for him.
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Old 07-17-2021, 03:47 AM   #11458
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So, uh, you need some help?
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Old 07-17-2021, 06:19 AM   #11459
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Old 07-17-2021, 09:22 AM   #11460
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Well, some books have more than one name. That is your password hint, and when you solve the password, solving the rest of the clues will be easier.
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Old 07-17-2021, 03:21 PM   #11461
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Well, 'Morgoth's Ring' is like another version of 'The Silmarillion.' I can't find a way to translate that kind of ring and fit it into the password, though. More of a job for Huey, perhaps?
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Nope, not that book. There are two other books featuring all the character's you've guessed so far...
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Old 07-17-2021, 05:06 PM   #11463
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Maybe the theme is the CURSE of Morgoth.

I think they're probably all in the NARN.
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Good. Now, what's the elvish word for curse?
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Huta or racco.
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Huta or racco.

There as at least one more, according to TG...
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Good. Now, what's the elvish word for curse?
as far as I remember racco it is
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There as at least one more, according to TG...
I think it's the same word, actually: 'rach' is the (possibly consonant-mutated) Sindarin word, which looks like a cognate to a Quenya 'racco' (though, full disclosure, I can't find 'racco' anywhere).

Anyway, yes, apparently the Narn is also known as the Narn e-'Rach Morgoth, or Tale of the Curse of Morgoth.

So... #4, I think 'returning' tells us that we need the final letter, and Morwe [the male Avarin leader] + N[orth] = MORWEN.


... except we've... already got Morwen. Um. Is 'Salle' a male name, to give NELLAS?

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How about S + ALLEN?
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How about S + ALLEN?
Sure, I guess we could go with the solution that makes sense instead...

#6: Very embarassed not to remember what goes on and on... SADOR.

#2: I was wracking my brains for way to get Finduilas from this, but totally forgot Turin's... aunt? Cousin? One of those. AERIN basically starts with 'air', though I can't make either IN or (rearranged) EN into 'right now'.

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I got as far as you with AERIN, but never, never thought of ROADS!
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Oh ... RAGNIR from RARING?
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NIENOR: Something that knights say, England and a conjuction, all for her.
AERIN: Air, right now. In disarray, she is there.
RAGNIR: He is full of enthusiasm (Rearranged)
NELLAS: Returning direction and a male name lead to her.

ELWE: Spanish article and pronoun form an Elven king.

RODAS: In a mirror, things that go on and on reveal him.
ANDROG: God ran in circles. He appears.
CUTHALION: Transition (movie-wise) an evil robot and a particle come together for him.
HUNTHOR: An ancient nomad tribe, sans direction, and a Norse God. For someone done in by a rock.

MORWEN: Confused ladies find a way, for her.
ORLEG: Maeglin loses a head, for him.
R: A preposition between a long and short direction. It's all in disarray, and backwards. For him.
GETHRON: Note a throne in disarray, for him.
ORODRETH: An entrance, an article and a direction. All in the muddle. For a king.
TURIN: Boaz's wife returns endlessly. Add a preposition for a tragic hero.
HURIN: An element precedes muddled destruction, for him.
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Old 07-21-2021, 02:24 AM   #11474
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That last R...

A preposition between a long and short direction. It's all in disarray, and backwards. For him.

'backwards' suggests the R is the final letter. I think it likely that the R is the 'short direction' - I can't easily come up with either prepositions or directions which include the letter!

I think the structure is [direction written in full] + [preposition] + R, with a bit of scrambling between the two words. But I haven't been able to come up with a name that fits.

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Old 07-21-2021, 02:29 AM   #11475
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Tried NE and SE and ON to no avail.

Maybe the longer direction is an order. Something like GO or DO.
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Old 07-21-2021, 05:24 PM   #11476
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Old 07-22-2021, 12:11 AM   #11477
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Nope.
Nope to... which part?

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Old 07-22-2021, 01:10 AM   #11478
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Old 07-25-2021, 04:16 AM   #11479
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All of it.
I hope this applied only to Pervinca's guesses, because I think it's Gethron's buddy GRITHNIR, who neatly fits the structure I described in my post. He's RIGHT + IN + R, with the first two words scrambled, and then run backwards for the R.

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Old 07-26-2021, 07:19 AM   #11480
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NIENOR: Something that knights say, England and a conjuction, all for her.
AERIN: Air, right now. In disarray, she is there.
RAGNIR: He is full of enthusiasm (Rearranged)
NELLAS: Returning direction and a male name lead to her.

ELWE: Spanish article and pronoun form an Elven king.

RODAS: In a mirror, things that go on and on reveal him.
ANDROG: God ran in circles. He appears.
CUTHALION: Transition (movie-wise) an evil robot and a particle come together for him.
HUNTHOR: An ancient nomad tribe, sans direction, and a Norse God. For someone done in by a rock.

MORWEN: Confused ladies find a way, for her.
ORLEG: Maeglin loses a head, for him.
RINHTIRG: A preposition between a long and short direction. It's all in disarray, and backwards. For him.
GETHRON: Note a throne in disarray, for him.
ORODRETH: An entrance, an article and a direction. All in the muddle. For a king.
TURIN: Boaz's wife returns endlessly. Add a preposition for a tragic hero.
HURIN: An element precedes muddled destruction, for him.

And over to you.
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