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Old 04-25-2021, 03:44 PM   #361
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Ah and cross posted with exactly that.
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Old 04-25-2021, 03:45 PM   #362
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If Sally is the seer (more about that in a sec) and neither of Morsul and Kath is a wolf we're dead for certain.

Ergo better hope one of the three is a wolf at least.


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Old 04-25-2021, 03:46 PM   #363
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Two votes for me means we have to be very careful now, and I think a bit swift as well.

I think our only hope is if Kath is a wolf and we all vote her before I get to four? Am I wrong?

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Old 04-25-2021, 03:50 PM   #364
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I mean, you're literally asking for it, so yes, fine, I'm the seer. Of all games to be busy at the wrong times.

Boro and Morsul are innocent. Sadly that's all I know of use right now.

Night one: Boro (because my prince!)
Night two: Morsul
Night three: Lottie (again, sorry!)

Like I said, the dead are fallible.
OK, I'm sorry to have drawn you out, but like I said... 'Vote for literally anybody else', you said. There's only one role who can make that call.


But that means we've got two known innocents, even if the wolves kill you toNight. And if they don't, hoping to discredit you... we've seen that play out, haven't we, Morsul?
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Mind you, from what I guess the dead have told us, Pitch must be a wolf? I've been wrong before, so I suppose it's possible.

We all have to agree either way. Yikes.


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Old 04-25-2021, 03:50 PM   #366
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Lommy, if you're an innocent and not a wolf, please go with your good sense here. Your own analysis of Lottie showed you a Pitch/sally/Morsul choice and GhostForm confirmed we were on the right lines. You were seconds off voting sally anyway, and only then did this little orchestration occur.
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Okay, so back to the drawing board.

We have a Ghost thing pointing at one of Morsul, Pitch and Sally.

Then we have Sally claiming to be the Seer and saying that Boro and Morsul is innocent.

So this would leave Pitch guilty by elimination, or else there is something completely messed up.

Or sally is simply lying (and in a really bizarre way given that Morsul just voted her). To be honest that would be the easiest solution for this mess.

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Mind you, from what I guess the dead have told us, Pitch must be a wolf? I've been wrong before, so I suppose it's possible.

We all have to agree either way. Yikes.


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I thought the Dead were fallible?
I'd say vote myself rather than sally, but since I'm innocent, outcome would be the same.
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This ridiculous by play between sally and Pitch is making me think there is more than one wolf in that little gang, because if sally is the Seer I'll eat my hat
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I thought the Dead were fallible?
I'd say vote myself rather than sally, but since I'm innocent, outcome would be the same.
They are fallible, which is why I haven't voted yet.

Gah, this is insanity. Bat excrement, as Lommy said the other day.
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Mind you, from what I guess the dead have told us, Pitch must be a wolf? I've been wrong before, so I suppose it's possible.

We all have to agree either way. Yikes.


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Ah so a few minutes ago the Dead are totally wrong and none of you, Morsul or Pitch could be a wolf, and you wouldn't vote for any of them. But now it's totally fine for Pitch to be a wolf and the Dead Thread do have information after all.
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Ah so a few minutes ago the Dead are totally wrong and none of you, Morsul or Pitch could be a wolf, and you wouldn't vote for any of them. But now it's totally fine for Pitch to be a wolf and the Dead Thread do have information after all.
Proving that we're all fallible, I guess.
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Old 04-25-2021, 03:56 PM   #373
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Idk. I wouldn't put it past wolf!Sally to make a false seer reveal.

Then again, I have been waiting for the seer to reveal toDay. I mean, even if they're so unlucky all their dream subjects are dead, they could still give us one known innocent (themselves), and if the game continues, another known role toMorrow via the ghost. Surely that's what any sensible seer would do at this point when we have to lynch a wolf or die? If nothing else then at least to stop a fake reveal?

And no one has come forward except Sally. That makes me think she might be the real deal.

Anyway, if someone else than Sally is the seer, they should spill the beans now. Because if we trust Sally and she's not the seer, we're doomed. Knowing whether she's bluffing or not is a question between life and death for the village toDay.

(Also, so much for going to sleep early today...)


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Or I could be wrong, and Pitch or Morsul could be a wolf. That's equally possible, though I've seen nothing from Pitch I would find suspicious.
How could Morsul be a wolf if you dreamed him on N2?
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So I’m only able to read not able to share more my thoughts and reaction. But I’m going with what I said earlier, the Ghost has given a list of at least 1 wolf. This is orchestrated by wolves.

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Yeah, I regretted posting that as soon as I hit submit, realizing it muddied any possible tracking of my dreams.
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ah so a few minutes ago the dead are totally wrong and none of you, morsul or pitch could be a wolf, and you wouldn't vote for any of them. But now it's totally fine for pitch to be a wolf and the dead thread do have information after all.
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Yeah sorry my dear. I think those antics just sealed my opinion.
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All of this unfolding is very confusing, it's a bombshell, perhaps the timing is not coincidence making me more suspicious of Pitch and Sally.

Not sure where to vote want to see what Thinlómien says. Edit: He already spoke and i missed the post sorry!
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Okay, I will actually say what I was trying to reason for like an hour before this all mess started to happen. Basically it comes down to several main points. One is whether the Wolves came to this Day with a strong pull or whether they are just happy to bus one of them. That ties in with whether Morsul is innocent or not and if he is guilty, then whether sally is innocent or not. If Morsul is evil and sally is not, he started a bandwagon, the WWs hoping we follow, if we do, case closed. If they are both evil (and ergo now under the new events, sally is faking), he bussed her (or all the WWs did). If Morsul is innocent and sally is guilty, it's fairly straightforward. If Morsul is innocent and sally is innocent, ergo the Seer after her proclamation, then this is just a mess.

So let me get this right, it's kinda whether what we are seeing now is just sally-wolf trying to save herself, or whether the bandwagon we are seeing is the Wolf-drive, like betting all on one card. Is there a scenario we can somehow vote that would be Wolf-proof under these circumstances? I am trying to think.
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Lommy, if you're an innocent and not a wolf, please go with your good sense here. Your own analysis of Lottie showed you a Pitch/sally/Morsul choice and GhostForm confirmed we were on the right lines. You were seconds off voting sally anyway, and only then did this little orchestration occur.
You know what? You're probably right. I just quickly skimmed through her posts toDay and they don't really add up.

And if we're wrong, then frankly, I think we're the worst village ever and deserve to go by lynching our seer.

++Sally


Cupcake, if you really are the seer, I'm so so sorry and I will humble grovel after the game is over.

Now I will go to sleep if I'll be able to.


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Yeah okay i'll 180 from my earlier position and jump on this bandwagon.
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So let me get this right, it's kinda whether what we are seeing now is just sally-wolf trying to save herself, or whether the bandwagon we are seeing is the Wolf-drive, like betting all on one card. Is there a scenario we can somehow vote that would be Wolf-proof under these circumstances? I am trying to think.
Not anymore, after Lommy's vote. We can only hope sally's a wolf, or it's game over.
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Well that would seal this either way, or?

Let me do a tally.

Morsul->Sally
Kath->Sally 2
Boro->Sally 3
Lommy->Sally 4

Left to vote:
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So basically if sally is innocent and we royally screwed up, the Dead could correct it, and that's about it. In any case at least one innocent now voted for sally.

EDIT: x-ed after sally. Well okay, that settles it.
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I don't even know who to vote for posterity....

Whether it's Kath or Pitch, well done to you and your packmates.
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So, either now the Wolves will burst out laughing or they won't. Well I guess this makes no difference then anymore, so pro forma.

++sally

I would sorta like to stay up for the DL to see the result, but I also would like to go to sleep. But this has been such a mess my brain may take a while switching off.

EDIT: x-ed with sally
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Old 04-25-2021, 04:21 PM   #390
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Old 04-25-2021, 04:25 PM   #391
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How likely is it that none of the 5 votes for sally were cast by wolves?


Anyway, time for another squeaky clean but damning vote (or maybe not?):
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If you were the real seer, I'm sorry (but I don't think so). If you're wolf, way to go out in style!
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I’m just glad I didn’t vote earlier. Although being away on this day was a pain. Perhaps the chaos sally put us through is would have been avoided.

*Glares at Pitch too*

Understand sally, I still hold you in the highest respect and I do not envy the headaches you will feel when you wake up. But you can’t deny you have tried to give us a bunch of headaches with your stunt.
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The tally, if it means anything to anyone toDay:

Morsul --> Sally
Kath Sally --> (2)
Boro Sally -->(3)
Lommy --> Sally (4)
Soriman --> Sally (5)
Legate --> Sally (6)
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7 votes for sally, even the Dead can't countermand that. So if it's not game over yet, did we actuallly get it right?
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I’d say it’s obvious we’re going on to tomorrow so, I’d love to see what Sorimon is up to. I’ll have to look into his posts today assuming of course I survive the night.
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