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Old 05-31-2006, 04:00 PM   #1
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Are wizards immortal?

Are wizards immortal?
And how are they born? By a wizard mother and a wizard father?
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Old 05-31-2006, 04:13 PM   #2
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For more information on the Wizards (or Istari as they are also called) I'd recomend you read Unfinished Tales. To make a long story brief, the Wizards were Maiar (have you read The Silmarillion? if not, Maiar are somewhat like what we know as angels... not exactly, but to keep it simple) that were sent to Middle Earth to help fight Sauron. While in Middle Earth they were still very powerful, yet their 'souls' were inside human bodies and so their power was rather limited.

They came to Middle Earth from Valinor, so they weren't quite born from Wizard parents... although I don't know about the bodies they inhabited.
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Old 05-31-2006, 04:30 PM   #3
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Are wizards immortal?
And how are they born? By a wizard mother and a wizard father?
Gandalf & the other wizards were brought to Middle-earth by the Great Stork of Manwe & left under the cabbages in Bilbo's garden. When they grew up they went to live in the magical land of Novices & Newcomers, where they can be found to this very day.
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Old 06-01-2006, 03:17 AM   #4
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Yes they are immortal in life span, as long as they stick to thier Mission. Saruman didn't, so when Wormtongue slit his throat he didn't re-incarnate wheras Gandalf did.
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Old 06-28-2006, 07:50 AM   #5
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Gandalf & the other wizards were brought to Middle-earth by the Great Stork of Manwe & left under the cabbages in Bilbo's garden.
So that's where Cabbage Patch Kids come from.
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Old 06-28-2006, 08:25 AM   #6
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When I first read the title of this thread I thought the question was 'Are Wizards Immoral?' - which would have been a much more interesting topic, particularly in terms of Gandalf's 'torture' of Gollum in the Elven King's dungeon...
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Old 06-28-2006, 08:37 AM   #7
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'Are Wizards Immoral?' - which would have been a much more interesting topic, particularly in terms of Gandalf's 'torture' of Gollum in the Elven King's dungeon...
I would be interested in a thread like that as well. Probably in Books though. Get it done Dave. I got your back! References to Sauran and Saruman! Those pesky Blue wizards! That animal loving brown wizard. Only one stepped up.

Very interesting indeed...
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Old 07-01-2006, 08:21 PM   #8
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Wizards are Maiar, lesser Valar, (the powers of the world). They were sent to Middle-Earth in an incarnate form, which was weaker, and forbidden to deviate from their path of defying Sauron, who in ancient origin was one of their order.

(Annoyingly, Gandalf was the only one that did his job properly!! Only one out of five, tut tut, Powers of the World.)

Anyway, they were originally Ainur and helped create the World, their father is Iluvatar (god) I guess.

They are immortal because they are basically lesser gods in human form. But Saruman, after his incarnate body was killed, looked to the West for pardon, and was apparently destroyed completely!
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