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@Huinesoron
Do you have any new insights on...
@Huinesoron Do you have any new insights on the subject, or otherwise any changes you'd make to your timeline? Just looking for an update (if there's any). |
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I wasn't angry as such, but I definitely was a...
I wasn't angry as such, but I definitely was a prick, so an apology is the least I could do. I mean, assuming that Tolkien kept in his head through the years what he wrote in the 'Myths... |
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First of, I have to apologize for my tone in the...
First of, I have to apologize for my tone in the above post - I haven't slept for two days and for some reason decided to post here. Not that any of that is an excuse. My biggest problem... |
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Did we threw away the 3,100 years idea?
As...
Did we threw away the 3,100 years idea? As to Celebrimbor, descendant of Daeron, I have no comments other than one - maybe you shouldn't treat that which Tolkien wrote last as scripture. (Not... |
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BTW, @Huinesoron, what do you think about the...
BTW, @Huinesoron, what do you think about the idea of creating a post (recorded)-Fourth Age timeline? There is, to my surprise, actually some meat to the basic skeleton that Tolkien mentioned in... |
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Sorry about that! :D It did sound like that to me...
Sorry about that! :D It did sound like that to me on second viewing, but anyway... I still have reservations about the whole '3 ages of the imprisonment of Melkor' - perhaps you could... |
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Before I make my point about Ents, it occurred to...
Before I make my point about Ents, it occurred to me that maybe you could add certain dates before the First Age (i.e. before VY 850/1) - 1) the creation of the Two Trees (VY 1/1) 2) the... |
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Can you give us an update, @Huinesoron :)?
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Can you give us an update, @Huinesoron :)? Anyway, I've been musing over the 'Cirdan' text in the PoME - and, depending on how you interpret the following quote, it might suggest that at least... |
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@Huinesoron - I was wondering if we could deduce...
@Huinesoron - I was wondering if we could deduce when the Ents were awakened? Or even if Tolkien gives a specific time range. |
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I think the death of the Trees should be VY...
I think the death of the Trees should be VY 887/144, if we follow the timeline faithfully (i.e. 24 VY exact after the Finding - that is VY 863/144, if you adopt the change). And in regards to... |
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Sorry if I didn't make myself clear (it's my...
Sorry if I didn't make myself clear (it's my fault) - I understand that this issue only emerges occasionally - however, what I'm trying to say is that, unless the 24-year adulthood figure is adopted,... |
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I think we're talking past each other - the rate...
I think we're talking past each other - the rate of 'ageing' and the time at which Elves have their first children prior to the March is absolutely, completely inseparable from the 'Scheme 7' (the... |
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The problem is when a later source contradicts a...
The problem is when a later source contradicts a key earlier one (on which the whole reconstructed timeline is based on, moreoever) in such a way as to make the timeline practically unusable - and I... |
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@Huinesoron - I think there might be a problem...
@Huinesoron - I think there might be a problem with using the '72 years until adulthood' figure. The dates of characters' births and marriages in XIII.1 (which we're using as the template for the... |
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This all hinges on the fact that Tolkien in his...
This all hinges on the fact that Tolkien in his published works had a completely different idea. That is why I suggested to Huinesoron to adopt whatever doesn't contradict LOTR and RGEO. Again,... |
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Huh...
I imagine that, as seen many times...
Huh... I imagine that, as seen many times before, Tolkien doodled on the page of the December 1959 'Genealogy' - I wonder what the first of these 'late additions' were? @Huinesoron - I... |
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I consulted Hammond and Scull's 'Chronology', and...
I consulted Hammond and Scull's 'Chronology', and all the references to the GA are within c. 1951-2 range. But perhaps you're right, though Tolkien might've reverted back to the GA1 in the NoME... |
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Ohh boy...Tolkien in his last 4 or 5 years of...
Ohh boy...Tolkien in his last 4 or 5 years of life practically settled on Celeborn being a Teler of Aman. And if that wasn't enough, he changed Celebrimbor's origin from that of a grandson of Feanor... |
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I'm aware that the table dates from the end of...
I'm aware that the table dates from the end of 1959, but I could've sworn that there's another place which dates the Elmo-Galadhon-Celeborn family tree to the late '60s, but my brain isn't... |
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Another few small nitpicks:
1) where are the...
Another few small nitpicks: 1) where are the diacritics on the names? 2) 'Amras and Amrod' should be 'Amros and Amrod (Amarthan)' - it wasn't a typo 3) Feanor's birth year (3234) is placed... |
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Ah, but remember the footnote 5, which states...
Ah, but remember the footnote 5, which states that he was born in Beleriand - however, the footnote also states that the timespan between the arrival of the Eldar in Aman and the overthrow of Morgoth... |
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You've outdone yourself - somehow you made all...
You've outdone yourself - somehow you made all this mess make sense, and without too much speculation! I don't think there's anything better that you could've done with what we have. Appendix... |
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Funny thing is, that's exactly what Tolkien did...
Funny thing is, that's exactly what Tolkien did at first - that is, just use the existing AAm dates for the First Age but plug in the 144 figure instead of the 9.582: however, that gave an absurdly... |
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EDIT:
No, I meant - take for example the...
EDIT: No, I meant - take for example the Awaking of Men (VY 1075 I assume): how did you arrive at 862/50 (FA 1778) figure? As in, can you walk me through the process? I meant 'ca.' in... |
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First of all, before I make any other comment - I...
First of all, before I make any other comment - I think you really should stress when a date is approximate or within a given range. And when dealing with such dates, I think maybe you ought to round... |
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