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Pervinca Took 08-04-2021 07:21 AM

Not unless you can find a Rowan who fits with the pretty extensive hints I gave in my last post. Which is very unlikely.

...

I'll repost the lot - hints and all.

EAST END: A place for a soap opera?
LAURA: Could be a pioneer girl; could leapfrog for a listening exam.
S He advocates teenage kicks.
E They’re very musical.
WALDA: Twelfth king, or one of Martin’s women?
HAMA: A city on the Orontes. Is he?
EGLANTINE: She’s fragrant, and Chaucerian.
R She was a Seventies copper. Different gender, though.
EORL: That Crabtree! He’s a rugby player!

Further to my apology about Saeros, it really DOES sound like Saeros in an American accent! (Sarris from Galaxy Quest).

On this occasion, the 70s cop is not from the 'Life On Mars' universe. When I said comedic, I meant FULLY comedic. There was a gentle late 70s/I think early 80's comedy about a copper in northern England. The title of this is both his nickname and the answer to R.

You're on the right track for the first E, and might apply the same kind of logic to the new clue I have written for the new answer for S. Both have a musical connection, but neither of them are connected to 'inspired by Tolkien' music.

I saw East End when I was looking something else up on the Encyclopaedia of Arda. I think it's up Rohan way.

Urwen 08-04-2021 07:28 AM

Well, google doesn't help. Also, by 'copper', do you mean 'cop'. Yes or no?

Huinesoron 08-04-2021 07:37 AM

New S: apparently Feargal SHARKEY is lead singer of The Undertones, who performed Teenage Kicks.

Apparently "East End" is a term Treebeard uses to describe the former state of Fangorn (as the East End of the ancient forests). So now I'm imagining the London-map title sequence playing out over Fangorn instead, with Isengard in place of the Millennium Dome. ^_^

hS

Pervinca Took 08-04-2021 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 733456)
Well, google doesn't help. Also, by 'copper', do you mean 'cop'. Yes or no?

Yes. Cop is short for copper.

Did you think I was talking about 1970s vintage tea-kettles or something? :D

Pervinca Took 08-04-2021 07:50 AM

EAST END: A place for a soap opera?
LAURA: Could be a pioneer girl; could leapfrog for a listening exam.
SHARKEY: He advocates teenage kicks.
E They’re very musical.
WALDA: Twelfth king, or one of Martin’s women?
HAMA: A city on the Orontes. Is he?
EGLANTINE: She’s fragrant, and Chaucerian.
R She was a Seventies copper. Different gender, though.
EORL: That Crabtree! He’s a rugby player!

Exactement. Not a bad song, actually. Feargal Sharkey did some solo stuff after The Undertones, too. John Peel played Teenage Kicks quite a lot, I think - a DJ who really encouraged and helped new talent.

Rohan ... Fangorn ... I was in roughly the right part of the story. :D

...

The R that I'm looking for is classed as a sitcom, not a cop show. It was a sitcom about a police station, with a young PC as the central character.

It was renamed with that copper's nickname from Series 2 onwards.

Urwen 08-04-2021 08:16 AM

Again, googling it doesn't help. :c

Urwen 08-04-2021 08:18 AM

Never mind, found it.

Pervinca Took 08-04-2021 08:55 AM

EAST END: A place for a soap opera?
LAURA: Could be a pioneer girl; could leapfrog for a listening exam.
SHARKEY: He advocates teenage kicks.
E They’re very musical.
WALDA: Twelfth king, or one of Martin’s women?
HAMA: A city on the Orontes. Is he?
EGLANTINE: She’s fragrant, and Chaucerian.
ROSIE: She was a Seventies copper. Different gender, though.
EORL: That Crabtree! He’s a rugby player!

Urwen 08-04-2021 09:54 AM

The last one still eludes me, though...

Urwen 08-04-2021 09:57 AM

Btw, you could have used Esmeralda for the remaining E as well.

Urwen 08-04-2021 09:59 AM

And the last answer pops out unexpectedly.

Eagles?

Pervinca Took 08-04-2021 10:16 AM

EAST END: A place for a soap opera?
LAURA: Could be a pioneer girl; could leapfrog for a listening exam.
SHARKEY: He advocates teenage kicks.
EAGLES: They’re very musical.
WALDA: Twelfth king, or one of Martin’s women?
HAMA: A city on the Orontes. Is he?
EGLANTINE: She’s fragrant, and Chaucerian.
ROSIE: She was a Seventies copper. Different gender, though.
EORL: That Crabtree! He’s a rugby player!

Eglerio!

Over to you.

Urwen 08-04-2021 11:13 AM

I've prepared something new. Also, it rhymes.

Hope you like it.

1. One king, who chose to go along for a ride
2. And one who slung rocks from the other side
3. One holy race that caused the tide
4. And another, from whose members you cannot hide
5. A title of one who caused an island's destruction on a whim
6. And lastly the one who's hated during Purim

Pervinca Took 08-04-2021 11:27 AM

3. Ainur, or perhaps Valar?

5. Ar-Pharazon?

Urwen 08-04-2021 11:43 AM

I've prepared something new. Also, it rhymes.

Hope you like it.

1. One king, who chose to go along for a ride
2. And one who slung rocks from the other side
AINUR: One holy race that caused the tide
4. And another, from whose members you cannot hide
5. A title of one who caused an island's destruction on a whim
6. And lastly the one who's hated during Purim

No to Ar-Pharazon.

(All the answers have a Tolkien connection due to something I found when I Google searched.)

Galadriel55 08-04-2021 12:34 PM

6. (H)AMAN - I think you posted somewhere about the homophone tickling your fancy.

Pervinca Took 08-04-2021 12:52 PM

Maybe Sauron or Annatar or Mairon for the wrecker of Numenor?

Urwen 08-04-2021 12:59 PM

1. One king, who chose to go along for a ride
2. And one who slung rocks from the other side
AINUR: One holy race that caused the tide
4. And another, from whose members you cannot hide
5. A title of one who caused an island's destruction on a whim
HAMAN: And lastly the one who's hated during Purim

Urwen 08-04-2021 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 733474)
Maybe Sauron or Annatar or Mairon for the wrecker of Numenor?


Close, but it's another name - or self-made title - of his, designed to mock Phary...

Urwen 08-04-2021 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 733472)
6. (H)AMAN - I think you posted somewhere about the homophone tickling your fancy.


I initially planned to use him as a clue for a different theme, but then I remembered your puzzle and decided to do a spin-off of my own...

Urwen 08-06-2021 04:33 AM

Okay, so this idea clearly isn't panning out, so I'll make a new password in a couple of hours.

Huinesoron 08-06-2021 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 733492)
Okay, so this idea clearly isn't panning out, so I'll make a new password in a couple of hours.

It might be better to post a few hints, unless you think the password is so opaque that nobody can possibly get it.

The only idea I had even vaguely was that the rocks in #2 might have something to do with Anarion taking a rock to the head, but I couldn't come anywhere near an answer with that.

hS

Urwen 08-06-2021 07:34 AM

Except that it isn't entirely Tolkien-themed, so...

Pervinca Took 08-06-2021 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 733477)
Close, but it's another name - or self-made title - of his, designed to mock Phary...

Tar-Mairon?

Urwen 08-08-2021 10:17 AM

Nope.

Galadriel55 08-10-2021 06:06 PM

I don't have any good thoughts about the rest of the clues. 4 sounds vaguely Mafia-esque. 2. Did the Witch-King lob rocks at Minas Tirith among the heads and the fireballs, or is that only a movie thing?

Huinesoron 08-11-2021 01:33 AM

Just remembered this morning: didn't Sauron call himself something like KING OF THE WORLD, which led directly to Pharazon's invasion of Mordor? Shades of Titanic there

hS

Urwen 08-11-2021 05:03 AM

Close, but not quite.


But like I said, this isn't an entirely Tolkien puzzle, so unless someone objects within 24 hours, I am making a new one.

Galadriel55 08-11-2021 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 733515)
Close, but not quite.


But like I said, this isn't an entirely Tolkien puzzle, so unless someone objects within 24 hours, I am making a new one.

Well, as Hui said before, maybe just consider adding hints to the clues or rephrasing them. Up to you.

Urwen 08-14-2021 12:53 PM

Did the fact that it's not fully Tolkien-themed escape you?!

And doesn't it say somewhere in the rules that the password has to be fully Tolkien-themed?!

Like, I would provide clues, but not if you are asking me to break those rules intentionally...

Pervinca Took 08-14-2021 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 733531)
Did the fact that it's not fully Tolkien-themed escape you?!

And doesn't it say somewhere in the rules that the password has to be fully Tolkien-themed?!

Like, I would provide clues, but not if you are asking me to break those rules intentionally...

Then why post it in the first place?

Huinesoron 08-16-2021 03:40 AM

For whatever it's worth, Sauron's title was KING OF MEN.

About the rest I have no ideas whatsoever.

hS

Urwen 08-16-2021 04:47 AM

Okay, I looked, and there is no such rule, so a hint: half of the solutions are not Tolkien.

Urwen 08-16-2021 04:48 AM

1. One king, who chose to go along for a ride
2. And one who slung rocks from the other side
AINUR: One holy race that caused the tide
4. And another, from whose members you cannot hide
KING OF MEN: A title of one who caused an island's destruction on a whim
HAMAN: And lastly the one who's hated during Purim

Pervinca Took 08-16-2021 07:01 AM

1. Peter or Edmund in Narnia?
4. Death Eaters?

If any of them are GRR Martin, I won't get any of those answers. Never read or watched, and no plans to.

Urwen 08-16-2021 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 733548)
1. Peter or Edmund in Narnia?
4. Death Eaters?

If any of them are GRR Martin, I won't get any of those answers. Never read or watched, and no plans to.


None are.

Pervinca Took 09-06-2021 09:05 AM

I think we need to admit defeat, Urwen. Do you want to post an exclusively Tolkien puzzle, (where at least we can guess if we get really stuck), or shall I post one?

Urwen 09-06-2021 02:23 PM

You're not familiar with the Bible, I take it? The fact Haman is there should have tipped you off...

Oh well

Pervinca Took 09-06-2021 02:51 PM

Is there any reason why I should be familiar with the Bible, or expect biblical answers in a Tolkien puzzle?

Huinesoron 09-06-2021 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 733698)
You're not familiar with the Bible, I take it? The fact Haman is there should have tipped you off...

Oh well

That would have been a great hint 20-odd days ago.

I'm guessing the password is TANAKH, and the second A is some variant on ANGELS. My Biblical Kings memory is limited to four, none of whom start with T or A, and unlike with the Legendarium I have no interest in digging through the Bible for more.

hS


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