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Pervinca Took 08-26-2015 04:28 PM

Here you are, then:

1. Port loses note, you hear? ... troubled is this realm.
2. Edge back, lie around, but don’t blame her.
3. Norse bard loses direction, but mingles with valley for a flower.
4. Happy street, yet troubled? It’s plain.
5. Dwarf meets troll for a Bolger.

Urwen 08-26-2015 04:52 PM

Could 2 be Miriel? (rim backwards and lie anagram-ed)

5 is Filibert Bolger.

Pervinca Took 08-26-2015 05:48 PM

1. Port loses note, you hear? ... troubled is this realm.
MIRIEL: Edge back, lie around, but don’t blame her.
3. Norse bard loses direction, but mingles with valley for a flower.
4. Happy street, yet troubled? It’s plain.
FILIBERT: Dwarf meets troll for a Bolger.

Well done! Plus the fact that Miriel asked Finwe to hold her blameless for what happened, and what might happen afterwards.

I thought of making it 'Dwarf meets troll for a hobbit,' but decided that would be too mean. ;)

Galadriel55 08-26-2015 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 701331)
I thought of making it 'Dwarf meets troll for a hobbit,' but decided that would be too mean. ;)

So now we know how the evolution of hobbits took place. :D

EDIT: 4. Dagorlad - road and glad.

Pervinca Took 08-27-2015 06:02 AM

Yep! Dagorland Plain.

1. Port loses note, you hear? ... troubled is this realm.
MIRIEL: Edge back, lie around, but don’t blame her.
3. Norse bard loses direction, but mingles with valley for a flower.
DAGORLAD: Happy street, yet troubled? It’s plain.
FILIBERT: Dwarf meets troll for a Bolger.

There's a little surprise, password-wise. I'll say no more for now. ;)

Urwen 08-27-2015 06:27 AM

3. Elanor?

Pervinca Took 08-27-2015 06:35 AM

No - in cryptic land, a spanner can be a bridge (a think that spans), a butter can be a thing that butts (a goat), and a flower can be a thing that flows (rather than flowers). ;)

(Thanks to Mithalwen for teaching me these). :)

Mithalwen 08-27-2015 07:13 AM

While a bloomer is something that blooms... ie a flower....

Urwen 08-27-2015 07:25 AM

3. Rivendell?

Pervinca Took 08-27-2015 07:51 AM

A bloomer could be a loaf of bread (but a bit of a stretch for cram or lembas) or I suppose half a pair of knickers ... but not much scope for a Tolkien clue either way, perhaps? ;)

Not Rivendell ... 'for a flower' implies that you put together the cryptic elements to find the flower (river/stream), not that the valley is the straight part of the clue.

Urwen 08-27-2015 08:16 AM

There are many Norse bards, and I dunno which one to pick......

Pervinca Took 08-27-2015 08:58 AM

I could only think of one without looking them up!

Galadriel55 08-27-2015 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 701348)
No - in cryptic land, a spanner can be a bridge (a think that spans), a butter can be a thing that butts (a goat), and a flower can be a thing that flows (rather than flowers). ;)

(Thanks to Mithalwen for teaching me these). :)

I've also just remembered mount - an old favourite to confuse people if it's a ride or a mountain.

Also, I've been trying to do something with Bragi for #3 (or bagi, once he loses the direction) but can't get anywhere with it.

Pervinca Took 08-27-2015 09:43 AM

Not Bragi. It's the name of a very well-known Norse bard that you need (well, well-known to anyone with any interest in Norse bards).

Yes, of course, a mount can be a mountain or a horse! Forgot that one.

Urwen 08-27-2015 12:21 PM

3. Silverlode?

Pervinca Took 08-27-2015 03:50 PM

No - you need to find the separate elements and put them together. Norse Bard minus a direction, plus valley - and then 'mingle' the letters you are left with.

Have a think, and if everyone's still stuck I'll give another clue.

Urwen 08-27-2015 03:59 PM

Well, there are a lot of bards there.

Here's the full list:

See? There's a lot of them.

Pervinca Took 08-27-2015 04:43 PM

I never claimed it was going to be easy. ;) (Well, perhaps I did, regarding the finding of the correct Bard).

But a new student of Old Norse is likely to read some of the Sagas and one or both of the two Eddas, or rather extracts of them in Old Norse and maybe the whole works in translation. Given that most (I believe) of the well-known sagas are anonymous, who does that leave?

Urwen 08-27-2015 04:59 PM

I found him, but I don't see how it fits yet. I will think more tomorrow if I am not beaten to the punch.

Pervinca Took 08-27-2015 05:47 PM

HINT: You might need to 'translate' valley.

Urwen 08-28-2015 12:51 AM

To elvish?

Edit: Nvm, I got it. Hebun is valley, combine it with Snorri, the bard who lost direction (either Sorri, Norri or Snori) and you get Shirebourn, the flower

Pervinca Took 08-28-2015 05:32 AM

Good try and the correct bard. Also correct that you need Snorri, his first name, not his surname of Sturluson. Wrong valley though. It is Elvish you need, but maybe you chose the wrong elvish language?

Mithalwen 08-28-2015 05:49 AM

Feel a bit mean jumping in when so much help provided - Sirannon? nan for vale and Snorri minus an r for right?

Urwen 08-28-2015 05:58 AM

*grins* found it. nan for valley in Sindarin and snori which is snorri without r give Sirannon.

Urwen 08-28-2015 06:15 AM

1. Dor Dinen?

Pervinca Took 08-28-2015 10:17 AM

Well done both! Sirannon it is.

Not Dor Dinen. (Or Dorset Dine, as my phone saw fit to autocorrect it to).

Maybe guess the password to get help with the last clue?

Pervinca Took 08-28-2015 10:21 AM

1. Port loses note, you hear? ... troubled is this realm.
MIRIEL: Edge back, lie around, but don’t blame her.
SIRANNON: Norse bard loses direction, but mingles with valley for a flower.
DAGORLAD: Happy street, yet troubled? It’s plain.
FILIBERT: Dwarf meets troll for a Bolger.

Anyone guessed the surprise in the password?

Urwen 08-28-2015 11:37 AM

The password seems to be Bragi, but it isn't tolkien term.

Urwen 08-28-2015 11:57 AM

1. Beleriand, the troubled realm?

Pervinca Took 08-28-2015 05:28 PM

The password isn't Bragi.

Not Beleriand. You need to account for the letters and satisfy each part of the clue.

Pervinca Took 08-28-2015 05:30 PM

Try starting with the port.

Urwen 08-29-2015 02:03 AM

Is it a name of port or synonym for it?

Pervinca Took 08-29-2015 02:45 AM

A name.

And regarding the password, remember that some of the letters are very narrow, like I. Ideally one would put them in a grid/table, like they are in a puzzle book.

Urwen 08-29-2015 05:08 AM

I've tried downward and diagonal and various other combinations and the only thing that makes sense is 'bori' but what letter can be added to it to make it Tolkien-esque is what's the problem here....

Mithalwen 08-29-2015 05:33 AM

I have put them on squared paper and not helping much

Urwen 08-29-2015 05:36 AM

Maybe the password is Borin? If you read certain diagonal from down, Borin is what comes to mind. Borin is the son of dwarf king Nain.

Pervinca Took 08-29-2015 10:53 AM

Borin is correct, but there's another, similar password there, if you look.

N ......... : Port loses note, you hear? ... troubled is this realm.
MIRIEL: Edge back, lie around, but don’t blame her.
S IRANNON: Norse bard loses direction, but mingles with valley for a flower.
DAGORLAD: Happy street, yet troubled? It’s plain.
F I L I BERT: Dwarf meets troll for a Bolger.

Urwen 08-29-2015 11:11 AM

In that case, the first answer is Numenor, the only tolkien realm that beginst with N, at least according to wiki.

Pervinca Took 08-29-2015 11:25 AM

Yes, but can you take us from port to realm?

And what is the other password?

NUMENOR: Port loses note, you hear? ... troubled is this realm.
MIRIEL: Edge back, lie around, but don’t blame her.
S IRANNON: Norse bard loses direction, but mingles with valley for a flower.
DAGORLAD: Happy street, yet troubled? It’s plain.
F I L I BERT: Dwarf meets troll for a Bolger.

Urwen 08-29-2015 12:17 PM

The other password is Farin.


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