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Pervinca Took 02-29-2020 02:35 AM

I think 5 might be RATHLORIEL - it contains most of the Golden Wood (Lorien) and it's a river.

Could RA be the westernmost part of Raleigh? (The letters furthest to the west/left?) - oh, we want the L of Raleigh too. 'Not in west London' isn't 'Don't take the L from London, take it from Raleigh' ... it's 'The N from London isn't in - the letter from the east/ right of it (not the west) - so take it from LORIEN.' The rest of it goes in RA ...L.

Damn. Thought I'd solved it. Where does the TH come from?

Huinesoron 02-29-2020 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 721330)
Ah, DENETHOR, father of Bozzer and Faramir.

It's EDEN, plus THOR, I guess.

Is Ossiriand also the theme? Did the other Denethor also have two sons?

7. ADURANT, the most southerly of Ossiriand's seven rivers. RANT for angry speech, but can't provide the rest.

Yep on Denethor. I don't think the other one had kids, but I was trying to be tricksy. :) Ossiriand is the theme.

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 721331)
I believe 4 starts with Isle. Isle of Balar?

It both starts and ends with Isle! (Tol Galen doesn't start with I, is why)

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 721332)
Oh ... A for first letter, DU(RING) (lose Frodo's burden), then add RANT.

ADURANT.

8. NAUGLAMIR. (Was wondering why I couldn't get Nargothrond to work!)

Spot on with the reasoning for Adurant, and well done finding nowglamour.

ONODRIM - They march, conjunctionless, on an odd rim.
SEA - See, hear - it's great.
SILMARIL - Our rock, silly Mary - ill. Not asking why or playing doubles.
ISLE - I'll hear amid the waters.
5. R - The Golden Wood, a river? Not in west London, more like in west Raleigh.
6. I - Take inventory in Adelaide, three times each, put it on a Serbian site, and fight.
ADURANT - First, during Frodo's burden's loss, an angry speech in the south.
NAUGLAMIR - Miners make now this, now glamour - it's in there if they listen.
DENETHOR - A tumbling garden meets a hammer's lord, father of two sons.

Only two to go!

hS

Huinesoron 02-29-2020 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 721333)
I think 5 might be RATHLORIEL - it contains most of the Golden Wood (Lorien) and it's a river.

Could RA be the westernmost part of Raleigh? (The letters furthest to the west/left?) - oh, we want the L of Raleigh too. 'Not in west London' isn't 'Don't take the L from London, take it from Raleigh' ... it's 'The N from London isn't in - the letter from the east/ right of it (not the west) - so take it from LORIEN.' The rest of it goes in RA ...L.

Damn. Thought I'd solved it. Where does the TH come from?

Well, you did get the right answer! It's LOTHLORIEN minus LO... N, plus RA... L.

ONODRIM - They march, conjunctionless, on an odd rim.
SEA - See, hear - it's great.
SILMARIL - Our rock, silly Mary - ill. Not asking why or playing doubles.
ISLE - I'll hear amid the waters.
RATHLORIEL - The Golden Wood, a river? Not in west London, more like in west Raleigh.
6. I - Take inventory in Adelaide, three times each, put it on a Serbian site, and fight.
ADURANT - First, during Frodo's burden's loss, an angry speech in the south.
NAUGLAMIR - Miners make now this, now glamour - it's in there if they listen.
DENETHOR - A tumbling garden meets a hammer's lord, father of two sons.

hS

Urwen 02-29-2020 05:09 AM

I think it's this:

Gelion-Ascar Stockade

Take inventory = Stock + Ade (from Adelaide), also lai sounds like 'lay' which is a synonym for put on.

(Also, Riddles in the Downs needs some love.)

Huinesoron 02-29-2020 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 721336)
I think it's this:

Gelion-Ascar Stockade

Take inventory = Stock + Ade (from Adelaide), also lai sounds like 'lay' which is a synonym for put on.

(Also, Riddles in the Downs needs some love.)

I would have loved to use Stockade for one of the S, but... I didn't think of it. ;) Not this, though ADE is right, and correctly derived to boot.

hS

Urwen 02-29-2020 02:45 PM

No love for Riddles in the Downs?

Pervinca Took 02-29-2020 03:03 PM

No time, and prefer this thread. Sorry.

I found I VAETH or I MAETH for battle, but nothing else beginning with I.

Urwen 02-29-2020 03:11 PM

The only other thing that comes to mind is Land of the Dead that Live, but it doesn't seem to fit either.

Pervinca Took 02-29-2020 03:26 PM

Huey, put us out of our misery!

Or at least give us a hint?

Huinesoron 02-29-2020 03:36 PM

It's none of those. :)

... all right, all right. It starts with I, and is formed of three parts. ADE is the second part.

And it's not a specifically Tolkien term.

hS

Urwen 02-29-2020 03:38 PM

eureka!
 
Invaders. (INV+ADE+RS)

Huinesoron 02-29-2020 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 721343)
Invaders. (INV+ADE+RS)

Bingo! (No, not Bingo Baggins.) Inv-Ade.rs. I was thinking of the orcs who fought Denethor, but the dwarves probably count too.

ONODRIM - They march, conjunctionless, on an odd rim.
SEA - See, hear - it's great.
SILMARIL - Our rock, silly Mary - ill. Not asking why or playing doubles.
ISLE - I'll hear amid the waters.
RATHLORIEL - The Golden Wood, a river? Not in west London, more like in west Raleigh.
INVADERS - Take inventory in Adelaide, three times each, put it on a Serbian site, and fight.
ADURANT - First, during Frodo's burden's loss, an angry speech in the south.
NAUGLAMIR - Miners make now this, now glamour - it's in there if they listen.
DENETHOR - A tumbling garden meets a hammer's lord, father of two sons.

Theme: People, places, and things in Ossiriand

Over to Pervinca!

hS

Urwen 02-29-2020 03:43 PM

Did you know....
 
that I am from Serbia?

Pervinca Took 02-29-2020 04:36 PM

I didn't, for one!

What is the Serbian site in the answer, and where does 3 times each fit in? 3 invasions?

Is the Sea strictly IN Ossiriand? ;)

Signed,

Pervinca the Pedant

Urwen 02-29-2020 04:39 PM

Not a Serbian site, but the domain.

Pervinca Took 02-29-2020 05:34 PM

Oh, 3 times = 3 letters from each.

Is RS the domain for Serbia, like DE (I think) for Germany?

Huinesoron 02-29-2020 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 721346)
that I am from Serbia?

I did not! I just checked Wikipedia to see what RS could stand for.

In my professional capacity I'm quite fond of Serbia, because it looks like Serbian chemical labels will also be accepted in at least three nearby countries. That makes my job much easier, and is probably why I picked it from Wikipedia's list.

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 721349)
Is the Sea strictly IN Ossiriand? ;)

Signed,

Pervinca the Pedant

It is by the Second Age. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 721351)
Oh, 3 times = 3 letters from each.

Is RS the domain for Serbia, like DE (I think) for Germany?

That's exactly it, yep.

hS

Pervinca Took 02-29-2020 05:50 PM

Completely EXCELLENT answer regarding the Sea. :D Not the full Numenor treatment, but War of Cross Valar was no joke.

Pedantry satisfied. :)

Any road, here's the next one:


1. The first – an archangel – who’s guarding a vase?
2. The second – spends more than an age at his house?
3. The third graced our screens in ‘Auf Wiedersehen, Pet!’
4. The fourth was a Prince on a Veronese set.
5. The fifth, though no hobbit, loves victuals and drink,
6. The sixth – Walford matriarch allows us – I think!
7. The seventh played quack to Ross Poldark’s old flame -
8. The eighth, (flag the second), definitive Thain!*
9. The ninth, (flag the fourth), a Walfordian quack -
10. The tenth – Tucker’s sister? (Once a river flows back).
11. In eleven, a saint meets a foundling most poor -
12. In twelve, it seems Shakespeare’s nearby, but wherefore? **
13. Thirteen is a saint, and a visionary too, **
14. Fourteen is a maid, and a gemstone most true.
15. Fifteen: Eighties game, plus a bounder and measure, **
16. Sixteen plays the son of an elf who loves treasure.
17. For seventeen, no spade? Petrified, but not dead!
18. Eighteen, (flag the sixth), Attercop! Poison-head!
19. The nineteenth, twice queenly, a pen or car-stopper?
20. With twenty as glue, the tale won’t come a cropper! **
21. Twenty-one is no Jekyll. On horseback he jogs,
22. Twenty-two steers a barge, or plays fair Lewis Boggs!
23. This sibilant genius is our twenty-three - ***
24. Two dozen! - a Potter, and Old English sea!

The whole means a drama, of quality rare,
Where thesps and their ilk show considerable flair!
I left out the ‘sounds likes’ to make it flow better,
So - enjoy the clues! (From Pervinca, your setter).

( * Well, future Thain).
(** Flag the second).
(*** Flag the third).

Urwen 02-29-2020 06:15 PM

Are we talking about individual letters which form the password?

Galadriel55 02-29-2020 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 721346)
that I am from Serbia?

No, I did not. And that was an inspired answer!


I can't help but think that 4 refers to Escalus, but I don't know what to do with him.




... Seems like a lot of actors, based on the clues' phrasing. Oh geez.

Pervinca Took 03-01-2020 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 721358)
No, I did not. And that was an inspired answer!


I can't help but think that 4 refers to Escalus, but I don't know what to do with him.




... Seems like a lot of actors, based on the clues' phrasing. Oh geez.

Yes, more or less. But once you figure which set, you'll tumble them very quickly. And it's mostly first letters. Where it isn't, it says 'flag the second,' etc.

I would try the ones that obviously refer to an actor's other work first. The password will gradually reveal itself.

Galadriel, find someone who PLAYED Escalus. On film.

Urwen 03-01-2020 05:46 AM

Are they all actors who portrayed characters in LoTR? Cos 22 surely was.

Urwen 03-01-2020 05:58 AM

Ah, I see. I know the pattern now. All I need to do is match the remaining actors from that to their other roles as described.

Pervinca Took 03-01-2020 06:04 AM

Yes. Except that some of the clues are cryptic.

Urwen 03-01-2020 06:37 AM

Letters I found so far:


3. C
4. D
9. A

10. N or E
13. R
16. D
22. R

Pervinca Took 03-01-2020 06:38 AM

I'm not putting them in unless answers are given. ;)

Urwen 03-01-2020 06:58 AM

3. Christopher Fairbank
4. David Lyon
6. Gillian Taylforth
9. Howard Antony
10. Noelle Beck
13. Graham Faulkner
16. David Collings
22. Richard O'Callaghan

Urwen 03-01-2020 07:13 AM

And just to be sure: is this the theme?

Pervinca Took 03-01-2020 07:15 AM

Yes to 3, 16, 22 and the theme.

No to the rest.

Urwen 03-01-2020 07:21 AM

Are you sure that 13 isn't correct? ;)

Urwen 03-01-2020 07:25 AM

Also, I've tried putting that as a password, but letters don't match up.

Urwen 03-01-2020 07:41 AM

BBC Lord of the Rings Radio Drama something something?

Pervinca Took 03-01-2020 08:04 AM

1. The first – an archangel – who’s guarding a vase?
2. The second – spends more than an age at his house?
CHRISTOPHER FAIRBANK (Shagrat): The third graced our screens in ‘Auf Wiedersehen, Pet!’
4. The fourth was a Prince on a Veronese set.
5. The fifth, though no hobbit, loves victuals and drink,
6. The sixth – Walford matriarch allows us – I think!
7. The seventh played quack to Ross Poldark’s old flame -
8. The eighth, (flag the second), definitive Thain!*
9. The ninth, (flag the fourth), a Walfordian quack -
10. The tenth – Tucker’s sister? (Once a river flows back).
11. In eleven, a saint meets a foundling most poor -
12. In twelve, it seems Shakespeare’s nearby, but wherefore? **
13. Thirteen is a saint, and a visionary too, **
14. Fourteen is a maid, and a gemstone most true.
15. Fifteen: Eighties game, plus a bounder and measure, **
DAVID COLLINGS (Legolas): Sixteen plays the son of an elf who loves treasure.
17. For seventeen, no spade? Petrified, but not dead!
18. Eighteen, (flag the sixth), Attercop! Poison-head!
19. The nineteenth, twice queenly, a pen or car-stopper?
20. With twenty as glue, the tale won’t come a cropper! **
21. Twenty-one is no Jekyll. On horseback he jogs,
RICHARD O'CALLAGHAN (Merry): Twenty-two steers a barge, or plays fair Lewis Boggs!
23. This sibilant genius is our twenty-three - ***
24. Two dozen! - a Potter, and Old English sea!

The whole means a drama, of quality rare,
Where thesps and their ilk show considerable flair!
I left out the ‘sounds likes’ to make it flow better,
So - enjoy the clues! (From Pervinca, your setter).

( * Well, future Thain).
(** Flag the second).
(*** Flag the third).

THEME: THE BBC 'LORD OF THE RINGS' RADIO DRAMATISATION.

Quite sure, thank you. :)

You are right that 'Walfordian' - in both cases - refers to 'Eastenders' - but neither of the stars is Gillian Taylforth.

Urwen 03-01-2020 08:23 AM

4. Robert Stephens (Aragorn)

Urwen 03-01-2020 08:42 AM

8. Bill Nighy (Sam).

Urwen 03-01-2020 08:45 AM

17. Ian Holm
18. Jenny Lee

Urwen 03-01-2020 09:08 AM

21. Anthony Hyde.

Urwen 03-01-2020 09:09 AM

14. Marian Diamond.

Urwen 03-01-2020 09:11 AM

9. Leonard Fenton.

Urwen 03-01-2020 09:18 AM

6. Pauline Letts.


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