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Huinesoron 04-13-2019 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 714708)
Password: Bombadil?

Hmm, which would rule out Barahir and Beren as the last pair... would Bombadil fit the theme because he is explicitly fatherless?

hS

Urwen 04-13-2019 11:53 AM

I dunno, but that's the only name which features all the highlighted letters.


I'll dig more.


Nope, found nothing else to match.

Galadriel55 04-13-2019 01:09 PM

...B... Pub locks out of order.
BUNGO: Mosquito absent but confused.
...M... Fan's friend paid only a fifth of my price.
BILBO: Note in stirred hot water.
BARD: ...with a bowstring for a harp.
BEREGOND: Hammer scrambles hard worker.
BAIN: Dwalin's brother loses way.
BERGIL: Half as tall as old.

Indeed!

Galadriel55 04-13-2019 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 714711)
Hmm, which would rule out Barahir and Beren as the last pair... would Bombadil fit the theme because he is explicitly fatherless?

hS

Yes, Bombadil is the fatherLESS. Not sure what your logic is for your first statement...

Urwen 04-13-2019 01:34 PM

Can't find any B character who matches the last two clues.....

Huinesoron 04-13-2019 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 714715)
Yes, Bombadil is the fatherLESS. Not sure what your logic is for your first statement...

'Neither of them has an M'.

... unless of course 3 is BEREN ERCHAMION, because Frodo lost only one finger, while he lost all 5.

I can see bar in BARAHIR, for pub, but can't get 'locks' from the last 4 letters.

hS

Urwen 04-13-2019 01:46 PM

The only other one with a 'bar' in his name is Barliman Butterbur.....

Urwen 04-13-2019 01:54 PM

Also, I've already made a new password set. I think you'd like the theme of my next one.

Galadriel55 04-13-2019 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 714718)
'Neither of them has an M'.

... unless of course 3 is BEREN ERCHAMION, because Frodo lost only one finger, while he lost all 5.

Which it, of course, is, because turns out not that many B father/son characters have M's in their names!

Quote:

Originally Posted by HS
I can see bar in BARAHIR, for pub, but can't get 'locks' from the last 4 letters.

It's a scramble of HAIR.



BARAHIR: Pub locks out of order.
BUNGO: Mosquito absent but confused.
BEREN ERCHAMION: Fan's friend paid only a fifth of my price.
BILBO: Note in stirred hot water.
BARD: ...with a bowstring for a harp.
BEREGOND: Hammer scrambles hard worker.
BAIN: Dwalin's brother loses way.
BERGIL: Half as tall as old.

Theme: Fathers and Sons, Start with B
Password: Bombadil the Fatherless



I hope you enjoyed this one. From my side it was fun to see you try to find the themes and not wholly believe everything would just start with a B. Not quite the same level as the square passwords, but I thought a double theme is a neat idea.

Anyways, over to Urwen now. You got us all licking our lips with that promise. :p

Urwen 04-13-2019 02:59 PM

Then, I won't keep you waiting


1. A way loses its tail, and a great Mannish warrior is revealed
2. A man of skill, but this is merely one of his names
3. He is like a rose, mixed up
4. Take a surname of famous writers and replace the ending with an article. (For him)
5. Disturbed, faint light is inside (He appears)

Galadriel55 04-13-2019 04:09 PM

3. Saeros - near anagram of "a rose"?

Urwen 04-13-2019 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 714738)
3. Saeros - near anagram of "a rose"?


It's AS+ROSE, actually, but the answer is correct




1. A way loses its tail, and a great Mannish warrior is revealed
2. A man of skill, but this is merely one of his names
SAEROS: He is like a rose, mixed up
4. Take a surname of famous writers and replace the ending with an article. (For him)
5. Disturbed, faint light is inside (He appears)

Galadriel55 04-13-2019 04:27 PM

4. Famous writers in plural makes me think Bronte... Brodda? Doesn't make sense for an article.

Also, the theme would then be "the jerks of Middle-earth (and specifically to the House of Hador)". :D

Urwen 04-13-2019 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 714743)
4. Famous writers in plural makes me think Bronte... Brodda? Doesn't make sense for an article.

Also, the theme would then be "the jerks of Middle-earth (and specifically to the House of Hador)". :D


Brodda is incorrect, and so is the theme. I very much doubt the solution to the first clue is a jerk - just the opposite, in fact. Also, #1 is of the House of Hador, so why would they be a jerk towards their own house?


For #4, think fairy tales.....

Galadriel55 04-13-2019 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 714744)
For #4, think fairy tales.....

Ah, Grima from Brothers Grimm.

I wasn't really serious about the theme but it would have been a fun one. :)

Galadriel55 04-13-2019 04:41 PM

2. Curunir / Saruman?

Urwen 04-13-2019 04:45 PM

1. A way loses its tail, and a great Mannish warrior is revealed
SARUMAN: A man of skill, but this is merely one of his names
SAEROS: He is like a rose, mixed up
GRIMA: Take a surname of famous writers and replace the ending with an article. (For him)
5. Disturbed, faint light is inside (He appears)


Now, the remaining two are the main reasons I picked this theme in particular. The other three just happened to fit the theme (and had the necessary letters for the password)

Galadriel55 04-13-2019 05:00 PM

Thoughts on #1
 
Well, you revealed that that one is of the House of Hador, so there are limited options but I can't get any to fit the clue, and I don't think ranting them off is fair.

The other thing is that the password seems to be Hurin, Turin, or Durin. Neither contains the first letter for the other Man, so these can tentatively be ruled out. Still not sure what the theme is, aside from possibly shady characters (NOT jerks, fine :p), and the younger branch of the house doesn't fit well with that.

So... how about #1. Tuor and Password = Turin?

Urwen 04-13-2019 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 714752)
Well, you revealed that that one is of the House of Hador, so there are limited options but I can't get any to fit the clue, and I don't think ranting them off is fair.

The other thing is that the password seems to be Hurin, Turin, or Durin. Neither contains the first letter for the other Man, so these can tentatively be ruled out. Still not sure what the theme is, aside from possibly shady characters (NOT jerks, fine :p), and the younger branch of the house doesn't fit well with that.

So... how about #1. Tuor and Password = Turin?


Both correct.


TUOR: A way loses its tail, and a great Mannish warrior is revealed
SARUMAN: A man of skill, but this is merely one of his names
SAEROS: He is like a rose, mixed up
GRIMA: Take a surname of famous writers and replace the ending with an article. (For him)
......N: Disturbed, faint light is inside (He appears)


Figuring out the theme might help you find the final one.

Galadriel55 04-13-2019 05:13 PM

Can you explain how the Tuor clue works? I still don't see it.

Galadriel55 04-13-2019 05:17 PM

The closest I can get to tying all these people together is being [nearly], literally or figuratively, stabbed in the back.

Not a very solid guess.

Urwen 04-13-2019 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 714756)
Can you explain how the Tuor clue works? I still don't see it.


Way = Route. Take away it's tail, ie E, and you get Tuor.


As for the theme, it functions the same way your fathers and daughters theme does. There are three pairs of characters. Two of the people in those pairs did to other half of those pairs what was done to the final person.


This is the closest I can tell you without giving it completely away....

Pervinca Took 04-13-2019 05:21 PM

Turin killed Saeros.
Grima killed Saruman.
Maybe one of the remaining answers killed the other?

Galadriel55 04-13-2019 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 714760)
Turin killed Saeros.
Grima killed Saruman.
Maybe one of the remaining answers killed the other?

Wasn't Tuor granted immortality to be with Idril?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 714759)
Way = Route. Take away it's tail, ie E, and you get Tuor.

Thanks!



Edit: ah, never mind, gotta be someone Tuor killed, not the other way around. MAEGLIN?

Urwen 04-13-2019 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 714760)
Turin killed Saeros.
Grima killed Saruman.
Maybe one of the remaining answers killed the other?


See, I knew you guys would figure it out



Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 714761)
Wasn't Tuor granted immortality to be with Idril?



Thanks!



Edit: ah, never mind, gotta be someone Tuor killed, not the other way around. MAEGLIN?



TUOR: A way loses its tail, and a great Mannish warrior is revealed
SARUMAN: A man of skill, but this is merely one of his names
SAEROS: He is like a rose, mixed up
GRIMA: Take a surname of famous writers and replace the ending with an article. (For him)
MAEGLIN: Disturbed, faint light is inside (He appears)


Theme: Killers and their victims.
Password: Turin


My next clue was gonna be a reference to 'Tidbits of Curiosity' thread.


Anyway, hope you enjoyed the clues and the theme......

Galadriel55 04-13-2019 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 714762)
Anyway, hope you enjoyed the clues and the theme......

I like the theme, it's original and a little outside the box. Kudos to Pervinca for figuring it out!

Urwen 04-13-2019 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 714764)
I like the theme, it's original and a little outside the box. Kudos to Pervinca for figuring it out!


You know the drill. The next one is yours. Make it a good one.

Urwen 04-13-2019 05:44 PM

One last thing. The final one was supposed to go GLEAM (rearranged) + IN for the cryptic part

Galadriel55 04-13-2019 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 714765)
You know the drill. The next one is yours. Make it a good one.

This one is a little more back to the basics, but I don't think the topic has been done before.



1. A rough bunch note a number of weapons and one, a mess.
2. Jaw cracker darkened flower.
3. Smeagol drops Latin for Irish, after undergarment on fire.
4. Cry inside two articles, with (and without) direction.
5. Point trinket haphazardly to stream.

Pervinca Took 04-14-2019 07:33 AM

Have been out of the loop for a few days helping out a friend ... sorry I missed so much. Fantastic passwords and I *loved* the B-named fathers and sons. It was all solved by the time I got back, but was the fan Sam, (Frodo's biggest fan), and Frodo was also his fan's friend?

Urwen 04-14-2019 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 714775)
Have been out of the loop for a few days helping out a friend ... sorry I missed so much. Fantastic passwords and I *loved* the B-named fathers and sons. It was all solved by the time I got back, but was the fan Sam, (Frodo's biggest fan), and Frodo was also his fan's friend?


Did you like mine too? I'd say it's the one I am most proud of.

Pervinca Took 04-14-2019 07:41 AM

Of course! I said fantastic passwordS. Was it your first themed one, too?

Pervinca Took 04-14-2019 07:58 AM

4. Could be the cry O between THE and German accusative DEN, (Theoden), but not sure about the direction.

Pervinca Took 04-14-2019 08:08 AM

5. NNE + ring almost gives Nenning.

Galadriel55 04-14-2019 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 714775)
Have been out of the loop for a few days helping out a friend ... sorry I missed so much. Fantastic passwords and I *loved* the B-named fathers and sons. It was all solved by the time I got back, but was the fan Sam, (Frodo's biggest fan), and Frodo was also his fan's friend?

Thanks! As I said earlier, it was inspired by your paired passwords. It was a great fun to make.

The fan is Sam, who keeps admiring Beren, and the fan's friend is Frodo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 714779)
5. NNE + ring almost gives Nenning.

Neither guess is correct, but this one has the right idea.

Pervinca Took 04-14-2019 09:22 AM

If something streams, it's RUNNING ...

Galadriel55 04-14-2019 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 714782)
If something streams, it's RUNNING ...

Or it's just a stream.

Urwen 04-14-2019 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 714777)
Of course! I said fantastic passwordS. Was it your first themed one, too?


Nope. The second. There was one before, but it wasn't as remarkable as this one.

Pervinca Took 04-14-2019 10:27 AM

Was the first before the one with Maeglin as the password?

Urwen 04-14-2019 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 714797)
Was the first before the one with Maeglin as the password?


Yes.


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