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Urwen 05-16-2019 06:08 AM

Over to Pervinca.

Pervinca Took 05-16-2019 06:18 AM

OK. I have one back at the office. (The one I hadn't yet written the clues for early yesterday evening).

Back soon.

Pervinca Took 05-16-2019 06:51 AM

Told you! Here it is:

1. Mother returns back to the Ford, almost for him.
2. Invert direction of winding suburban French train. Why, we hear? For him!
3. Primate runs back for him, vowel-shifting in the process!
4. See a dwarf caper around for him!
5. He returns, but to no German village.

Huinesoron 05-16-2019 07:08 AM

5. A German village, I think, is a Dorf. Add a 0 ('no') and (re)turn it, you get FRODO.



hS

Galadriel55 05-16-2019 07:13 AM

3. Rumil, from lemur.

Urwen 05-16-2019 07:15 AM

I am assuming that a 'dwarf' means 'miner' again.

Pervinca Took 05-16-2019 08:19 AM

1. Mother returns – back to the Ford, almost – for him.
2. Invert direction of winding suburban French train. Why, we hear? For him!
RUMIL: Primate runs back for him, vowel-shifting in the process!
4. See a dwarf caper around for him!
FRODO: He returns, but to no German village.

I'm pretty sure this dwarf mines, (given half a chance!), but we're not calling him 'miner' on this occasion.

Urwen 05-16-2019 08:25 AM

I think it's Oin or Ori, because only they make sense.


Back to clue 1, is Ford a car or a surname?

Urwen 05-16-2019 08:28 AM

French translation of suburban train is 'un train de banlieue'. Is this what we're supposed to use?

Urwen 05-16-2019 08:30 AM

If there was a word 'almost' in the clue, I'd say it's OROPHIN (OIN+ROMP) for clue 4.

Or maybe OROPHIN (ORI+HOP)

Huinesoron 05-16-2019 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 716898)
French translation of suburban train is 'un train de banlieue'. Is this what we're supposed to use?

I know that in German, there are specific names for different styles of train (U-bahn/S-bahn); not sure if the same applies in French.

If Rumil is Rumil of Tirion, we might be looking at scholars.

Or, of course, Lorien if he's the Marchwarden.

hS

Pervinca Took 05-16-2019 08:34 AM

1. Mother returns back to the Ford, almost for him.
2. Invert direction of winding suburban French train. Why, we hear? For him!
RUMIL: Primate runs back for him, vowel-shifting in the process!
OROPHIN: See a dwarf caper around for him!
FRODO: He returns, but to no German village.

It IS OROPHIN, but it's NORI + HOP, so no need for 'almost.'

Urwen 05-16-2019 08:37 AM

And if Frodo is Frodo Gardner, then he has six brothers, one of which has to be one of the remaining clues....

Pervinca Took 05-16-2019 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 716900)
I know that in German, there are specific names for different styles of train (U-bahn/S-bahn); not sure if the same applies in French.

If Rumil is Rumil of Tirion, we might be looking at scholars.

Or, of course, Lorien if he's the Marchwarden.

hS

There is a particular service that serves the suburbs of a particular French city. Or at least, there was twenty-seven years ago. I doubt they would have torn it out, though.

Huinesoron 05-16-2019 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 716898)
French translation of suburban train is 'un train de banlieue'. Is this what we're supposed to use?

Apparently the Paris suburbs have a train system called the RER. 'Why, we hear' must mean add a Y/I... could #2 be MERRY? It has RER + Y, and M is what you get if you invert the initial direction of 'winding' (ie, it's an upside-down W).

hS

Huinesoron 05-16-2019 08:41 AM

And if that's right, then the password is AMROD, and #1 is AMRAS - reversed MA, plus reversed 'SAR' which is nearly reversed 'car'.

hS

Urwen 05-16-2019 08:42 AM

Password: Amrod?

Urwen 05-16-2019 08:43 AM

Ninjaed. :(

Urwen 05-16-2019 08:44 AM

Make it easier than your usual ones, please.

Pervinca Took 05-16-2019 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 716904)
Apparently the Paris suburbs have a train system called the RER. 'Why, we hear' must mean add a Y/I... could #2 be MERRY? It has RER + Y, and M is what you get if you invert the initial direction of 'winding' (ie, it's an upside-down W).

hS

Exactement!

Ou - presque exactement. ;)

'Winding' means twist RER to ERR.

'Invert' is invert the direction letter (W) for the M.

Huinesoron 05-16-2019 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 716908)
Make it easier than your usual ones, please.

Given that you lot have been scattering anagrams, mid-word password letters, and straight clues which read, in their entirety, 'him', I can't see that you can reasonably call me difficult.

Unless you mean that I have a tendency to use stuff which doesn't come quickly to mind, in which case: guilty as charged.

hS

Urwen 05-16-2019 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 716910)
Given that you lot have been scattering anagrams, mid-word password letters, and straight clues which read, in their entirety, 'him', I can't see that you can reasonably call me difficult.

Unless you mean that I have a tendency to use stuff which doesn't come quickly to mind, in which case: guilty as charged.

hS

Well, it's hard to come up with themed passwords while only using first letters (Though I did manage it with my last two passwords. ;))

Pervinca Took 05-16-2019 08:52 AM

AMRAS: Mother returns – back to the Ford, almost – for him.
MERRY: Invert direction of winding suburban French train. Why, we hear? For him!
RUMIL: Primate runs back for him, vowel-shifting in the process!
OROPHIN: See a dwarf caper around for him!
FRODO: He returns, but to no German village.

THEME: BROTHERS

Correct, except that it's MA reversed, then most of SARN (Ford) reversed, for Amras.

(Sarn Ford is in the Shire, I believe).

Over to Huey!

Huinesoron 05-16-2019 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 716911)
Well, it's hard to come up with themed passwords while only using first letters (Though I did manage it with my last two passwords. ;))

I... disagree? All my passwords have been themed, and either used first letters or included specific pointers in the clue to say which letter you need.

It just involves a lot of discarding possible passwords because you can't find the clues that fit. :)

hS

Urwen 05-16-2019 08:54 AM

Also, be glad, for if I had my way, most of my passwords would go: Maeglin Turin Lalaith - repeat ad infinituim at your leisure. :p)

Huinesoron 05-16-2019 09:08 AM

All right, here we go:

1. If you want to play, shortly pay in what sounds like a dour, frozen world with a different note.
2. Alternately, it's ok, thank the Sea for the toothed summit.
3. It doesn't matter... or bottom, don't light any fires.
4. If you hear a greeting (or more than one) before the Elvish city, look to the west.
5. It's bad, but you need Marie's bane inside - duh, pretty much. Take a third of what one founded.

hS

Urwen 05-16-2019 09:11 AM

3. Weathertop (WHETHER+TOP)

Urwen 05-16-2019 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 716915)
5. It's bad, but you need Marie's bane inside - duh, pretty much. Take a third of what one founded.

hS


Interesting, for that's my given name, and I have only one bane and he goes by Quenya name of Lomion.

Huinesoron 05-16-2019 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 716916)
3. Weathertop (WHETHER+TOP)

1. If you want to play, shortly pay in what sounds like a dour, frozen world with a different note.
2. Alternately, it's ok, thank the Sea for the toothed summit.
WEATHERTOP - It doesn't matter... or bottom, don't light any fires.
4. If you hear a greeting (or more than one) before the Elvish city, look to the west.
5. It's bad, but you need Marie's bane inside - duh, pretty much. Take a third of what one founded.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 716917)
Interesting, for that's my given name, and I have only one bane and he goes by Quenya name of Lomion.

Oops! Well, it's not you (so far as I know... :eek:), and this bane was of the more permanent variety.

It's also nothing to do with Maeglin, I promise. :)

hS

Urwen 05-16-2019 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 716918)
1. If you want to play, shortly pay in what sounds like a dour, frozen world with a different note.
2. Alternately, it's ok, thank the Sea for the toothed summit.
WEATHERTOP - It doesn't matter... or bottom, don't light any fires.
4. If you hear a greeting (or more than one) before the Elvish city, look to the west.
5. It's bad, but you need Marie's bane inside - duh, pretty much. Take a third of what one founded.



Oops! Well, it's not you (so far as I know... :eek:), and this bane was of the more permanent variety.

It's also nothing to do with Maeglin, I promise. :)

hS


I wish it did.....

Urwen 05-16-2019 09:20 AM

Greeting is 'Hi'. Elvish city is probably Tirion. West is W.

Galadriel55 05-16-2019 09:25 AM

2. Orthanc, meaning Mount Fang? Alternatively = or, + thank without k (0 k), + sea = c.

Urwen 05-16-2019 09:25 AM

Password: Downs
Theme: Places in Eriador.

Let's see if I got the password and the theme based on a single letter. :D

Galadriel55 05-16-2019 09:32 AM

TOWER for password?

5. Barad-dur? Bad + Ra + du(h)

Edit: Crossed with Urwen

Huinesoron 05-16-2019 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 716920)
Greeting is 'Hi'. Elvish city is probably Tirion. West is W.

No, yes, and no.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 716921)
2. Orthanc, meaning Mount Fang? Alternatively = or, + thank without k (0 k), + sea = c.

Yes, precisely. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 716922)
Password: Downs
Theme: Places in Eriador.

Let's see if I got the password and the theme based on a single letter. :D

No, and no.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 716923)
TOWER for password?

5. Barad-dur? Bad + Ra + du(h)

Edit: Crossed with Urwen

Yes, and yes. Ra is Radium, which gave Marie Curie cancer. And 'take a third' points to the third letter, so...

T - If you want to play, shortly pay in what sounds like a dour, frozen world with a different note.
ORTHANC - Alternately, it's ok, thank the Sea for the toothed summit.
WEATHERTOP - It doesn't matter... or bottom, don't light any fires.
E - If you hear a greeting (or more than one) before the Elvish city, look to the west.
BARAD-DUR - It's bad, but you need Marie's bane inside - duh, pretty much. Take a third of what one founded.

Two to go!

hS

Urwen 05-16-2019 10:24 AM

5. Elostirion? (OLE+S+TIRION)

Pervinca Took 05-16-2019 10:51 AM

Wouldn't it be 'ELLOS (Hellos) plus Tirion? (ELOS sounding like it).

Oh! The Spanish greeting.

Was Barad-Dur a third of someone else's building?

Huinesoron 05-16-2019 12:37 PM

Elostirion is correct, and no, 'third' pointed to the letter; straight clue is that the foundations were made with the One Ring.

T - If you want to play, shortly pay in what sounds like a dour, frozen world with a different note.
ORTHANC - Alternately, it's ok, thank the Sea for the toothed summit.
WEATHERTOP - It doesn't matter... or bottom, don't light any fires.
ELOSTIRION - If you hear a greeting (or more than one) before the Elvish city, look to the west.
BARAD-DUR - It's bad, but you need Marie's bane inside - duh, pretty much. Take a third of what one founded.

hS

Galadriel55 05-16-2019 08:22 PM

The first clue just doesn't come together, and judging by the silence not for me alone.

The only lead I have is sound-alikes for dour: taur, and tower itself. Taur isn't really used in the context of towers though, and from all the towers by that name I can't find any that would explain the rest of the clue.

Pervinca Took 05-17-2019 12:15 AM

There's Tar-Minastir, but I couldn't find any of the elements in that.

The problem with googling 'Tolkien towers' is ... no, not that you find Torquay hotels claiming Tolkien once stayed there, but that it brings up 'The Two Towers' instead.


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