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The theme is still wrong, though
MELIAN: A spun tree is followed by a pronoun and a backward element. She appears. IDRIL: A cover and an element circulate for her ???R???: A broken rule surrounds a pronoun for her RIAN: A product of a storm circulates for her AREDHEL: An article, a color, and a dark goddess. Put them together for her. ELWING: An alloy, abbreviated. An avian extremity. She appears. |
Alternatively, mothers if First Age heroes (if Maeglin counts)
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3 Morwen. NORM around WE
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MELIAN: A spun tree is followed by a pronoun and a backward element. She appears.
IDRIL: A cover and an element circulate for her MORWEN: A broken rule surrounds a pronoun for her RIAN: A product of a storm circulates for her AREDHEL: An article, a color, and a dark goddess. Put them together for her. ELWING: An alloy, abbreviated. An avian extremity. She appears. |
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The theme was simply 'first age mothers'. And yet nobody thought of that...... |
It's Pervinca's turn now. In light of recent events, anyone who attempts to usurp the right of the turn will be subjected to the 'Song that Never Ends' infinite loop, at the highest possible volume. You have been warned.
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Nope. You never said 'Mothers of First Age'. The closest you came was 'Mothers of First Age Heroes' as opposed to simply 'Mothers of the First Age'. There is a difference between the two. |
He was pretty close, but I guess Maeglin isn't a hero. Luthien could qualify, but I suppose technically she's a heroine.
A good password, anyway. Next: 1. Negative rattle troubled him. 2. More capacious? Change note to perturb him! 3. Deer possessed you twice, we hear! Publicity for the moon? It gets even crazier before he appears! 4. Leech scurries around, but gains direction for him. 5. Fiery ball runs back to meet mixed-up killer for him. 6. Note measure losing direction, and spin to find him. 7. Measure a pudding, and mix it well for him. |
5, Incanus: CAIN mixed + SUN backwards
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Neat work! :)
1. Negative rattle troubled him.
2. More capacious? Change note to perturb him! 3. Deer possessed you twice, we hear! Publicity for the moon? It gets even crazier before he appears! 4. Leech scurries around, but gains direction for him. INCANUS: Fiery ball runs back to meet mixed-up killer for him. 6. Note measure losing direction, and spin to find him. 7. Measure a pudding, and mix it well for him. |
1. Telcontar. RATTLE+CON
Is it COUNCIL? |
TELCONTAR: Negative rattle troubled him.
???O???: More capacious? Change note to perturb him! ???U???: Deer possessed you twice, we hear! Publicity for the moon? It gets even crazier before he appears! ???N???: Leech scurries around, but gains direction for him. INCANUS: Fiery ball runs back to meet mixed-up killer for him. ???I???: Note measure losing direction, and spin to find him. ???L???: Measure a pudding, and mix it well for him. Well done! Telcontar is NO + CLATTER, though. I didn't realise the word 'rattle' was also in 'Telcontar' - thought I'd written a really difficult clue! |
2. Elrond. LONGER, swap D for G
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6. Check it for mistakes: I think I know what it is, but I believe there's a letter unaccounted for
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2 is not Elrond. Right method; wrong synonym.
6 is a difficult clue, but it does not contain any mistakes. |
OK. For 6 I was thinking Gimli: G + MILE - E, but that leaves GIML.
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TELCONTAR: Negative rattle troubled him.
???O???: More capacious? Change note to perturb him! ???U???: Deer possessed you twice, we hear! Publicity for the moon? It gets even crazier before he appears! ???N???: Leech scurries around, but gains direction for him. INCANUS: Fiery ball runs back to meet mixed-up killer for him. GIMLI: Note measure losing direction, and spin to find him. ???L???: Measure a pudding, and mix it well for him. GIMLI is correct, but it's MI + GILL - L. |
OOoh, so "notes" includes sol-fa. I hadn't realized that.
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7 is bugging me, because I'm not familiar with the UK's thousand varieties of puddings
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2. Boromir: ROOMIER, swap B for E
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TELCONTAR: Negative rattle troubled him.
BOROMIR: More capacious? Change note to perturb him! ???U???: Deer possessed you twice, we hear! Publicity for the moon? It gets even crazier before he appears! ???N???: Leech scurries around, but gains direction for him. INCANUS: Fiery ball runs back to meet mixed-up killer for him. GIMLI: Note measure losing direction, and spin to find him. ???L???: Measure a pudding, and mix it well for him. Boromir from 'roomier,' indeed. I had not thought of using the doh-re-mi notes as elements until someone did so quite recently on this thread. It's a one-word pudding, if that helps. And an old-fashioned one. |
Wow, I had to go googling to find it; I'd never heard of it
7. Legolas ELL + SAGO |
TELCONTAR: Negative rattle troubled him.
BOROMIR: More capacious? Change note to perturb him! ???U???: Deer possessed you twice, we hear! Publicity for the moon? It gets even crazier before he appears! ???N???: Leech scurries around, but gains direction for him. INCANUS: Fiery ball runs back to meet mixed-up killer for him. GIMLI: Note measure losing direction, and spin to find him. LEGOLAS: Measure a pudding, and mix it well for him. Don't think I'd advise eating it either - it sounds revolting! I may have had it as a child. Quite like tapioca, I imagine. |
Are these now supposed to be council members who are also Fellowship members? That would make the remaining two hobbits.
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#3: Of the Council attendees, even including aliases, the only ones containing U are Incanus (used), Tharkun (just used recently, and the same guy), and Underhill. I can't work that out.
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Let's try RAZANUR TUK, aka Pippin. It includes 'Rana' (a name of the Moon) and two Us ('possessed U twice'), so all we need is to find a deer and publicity in... ZRTK.
... Maybe not? Frodo is also given the name 'Daur' on the Field of Cormallen, which at least starts with a D(eer), but unless there's some sneaky subtraction in the clue, I can't see it. hS |
Well, Underhill contains LUN-R....
Could "Deer possesses you twice" just mean E? ___________ Pippin wasn't at the Council |
There is another alias that no-one has mentioned yet.
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OK, let's see:
Halfelven Peredhel Strider Telcontar Elessar Elfstone Estel Thorongil Longshanks Renewer Wingfoot Stick-at-nought Underhill Ringbearer Maura Deputy Mayor Gardner Banazir Galpsi Great Elf-warrior Greenleaf Mithrandir Incanus Tharkun Lathspell Greyhame Stormcrow Olorin Goldilocks |
None of those.
(Who would Goldilocks be?) |
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Were Banazir and Maura also accounted for? I can't make them work, but who knows. They would fit in thematically, with all the people in the password and theme mentioned once.
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I've played with FULLWISE, which is really a stretch (a punning compliment, not really an alias). But I can't make that work either. |
All right, there were 7 persons at the Council who would join the Fellowship:
Frodo Sam Gandalf Aragorn Boromir Legolas Gimli All those are accounted for except the two hobbits, and that suggests that we are indeed looking at Maura for U and Banazir for N. But I can't make either one work. |
1. I never said they were all in the Fellowship.
2. There is a *pair* of aliases that is bestowed once, and in the same sentence, but not in the published LOTR or its appendices. One of the remaining answers is one from this pair. |
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Oooh, that's sneaky! Not in the published Lord of the Rings, because it's in the unpublished Epilogue. "Master Perhael who should be called Panthael." (Master Samwise who should be called Fullwise). So I was on the right track! Panthael contains HEAL (leech; we just talked about that definition), and the required N, which is the "direction." I just can't figure out PAT. |
I'm sneaky? Have you tried Huey's passwords? ;)
It isn't Panthael, or Perhael, and it isn't in the Epilogue. But you DO have the right CHARACTER. The pair of aliases are bestowed UPON a pair. One for each character. By the way, the 'pair of aliases' clue is the U clue, not the leech one! |
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