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Nerwen 06-23-2017 08:50 PM

All correct! Well done, everyone!:)

ARGONATH: Fabled vessel and preposition mingle, with monumental results.
NAITH: A short chieftain tumbled, here.
DEAGOL: Attempt bargain. Stir up to disclose observant member of Beleg club.
UNDEEP: Await continental upheaval. May not be over your head.
ISILDUR: Being sensational- disturb to reveal him.
NIMRODEL: Hunter adds a touch of Spain to find her- and it.

Pervinca Took 06-24-2017 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 707068)
All correct! Well done, everyone!:)

ARGONATH: Fabled vessel and preposition mingle, with monumental results.
NAITH: A short chieftain tumbled, here.
DEAGOL: Stir up to disclose observant member of Beleg club.
UNDEEP: Await continental upheaval. May not be over your head.
ISILDUR: Being sensational- disturb to reveal him.
NIMRODEL: Hunter adds a touch of Spain to find her- and it.

'Attempt bargain' has been accidentally deleted from the Deagol clue, I think. ;)

Nerwen 06-24-2017 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 707069)
'Attempt bargain' has been accidentally deleted from the Deagol clue, I think. ;)

It has indeed. Just a moment...

Pervinca Took 06-24-2017 01:34 AM

So ... Morsul is the next password setter, according to the rules. :)

Morsul the Dark 06-24-2017 03:53 PM

Are you sure I contributed nothing. I'd be fine passing. If you insist I'm sure I can come up with something.

Pervinca Took 06-24-2017 04:19 PM

It's Nerwen's decision, I guess, but you did name the correct password.

Morsul the Dark 06-24-2017 10:34 PM

1. A cheesey town
2.Ancient, volition and loud exclamation, this hombre sings.
3. Larvae to some, yet fond of Fungus and dogs
4. Saloon, a shortened arm, and master, yet forgetful.
5. Sounds presumptuous, or something like it, for this scruff man to ask reward.
6. Father with double walkers. Gossiped with pork product.
7. Absurdly simple, these cause long delays.
8. A underhanded throw to a long fish would be more appealing than she is.

1. Bree
2. Old Man Willow
3. Maggot
4. Barliman
5. Aragorn
6. Daddy Twofoot
7. Inns
8. Lobelia

Might be obnoxiously easy or incredibly difficult we'll see...

Nerwen 06-24-2017 10:38 PM

#3 is MAGGOT, I think?

Mithalwen 06-25-2017 04:41 AM

BREE for the cheesey town? Like Brie?

Pervinca Took 06-25-2017 05:49 AM

Saw Bree, but Mith already has it! :)

Although short-cuts make long delays, it's RIDDLES that Gandalf calls absurdly simple, and they cause delays more than once?

8. A guess at LOBELIA, because 'lob' is throw and there is the sound of 'eel,' but the whole answer is more 'long' than that?

Kind of messes up my idea of Bamfurlong for the password, though. ;)

Morsul the Dark 06-25-2017 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark (Post 707075)
1. Bree
2.Ancient, volition and loud exclamation, this hombre sings.
3. Maggot
4. Saloon, a shortened arm, and master, yet forgetful.
5. Sounds presumptuous, or something like it, for this scruff man to ask reward.
6. Father with double walkers. Gossiped with pork product.
7. Absurdly simple, these cause longer delays.
8. Lobelia

Might be obnoxiously easy or incredibly difficult we'll see...

Peevinca you're very close to the answer for seven. Slight modification to seven.

Pervinca Took 06-25-2017 06:02 AM

4. BARLIMAN is forgetful, and master to Nob and Bob: saloon = bar, lim = shortened limb/arm ... but I can't account for the AN.

Pervinca Took 06-25-2017 06:05 AM

Is 7 short cuts, then, because short cuts are supposed to be a simpler way of getting somewhere? (And Frodo and company's short-cut is absurd/disastrous).

Or because it's a simple/straight clue, whereas most clues here are cryptic?

Pervinca Took 06-25-2017 06:12 AM

5. Again, I can't account for every letter, but ARAGORN is a scruff as Strider, a man, and his name sounds like arrogant (presumptuous).

Morsul the Dark 06-25-2017 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark (Post 707075)
1. Bree
2.Ancient, volition and loud exclamation, this hombre sings.
3. Maggot
4. Barliman
5. Aragorn
6. Father with double walkers. Gossiped with pork product.
7. Absurdly simple, these cause longer delays.
8. Lobelia

Might be obnoxiously easy or incredibly difficult we'll see...

Making quick work of these. Short-cuts do make long delays but something causes longer ones

Pervinca Took 06-25-2017 06:22 AM

Oh ... INNS!

Pervinca Took 06-25-2017 06:25 AM

6. Daddy Twofoot, who gossiped with Hamfast, the Gaffer?

So ... BOMBADIL?

Edit: I remember now that Hamfast is sometimes abbreviated to Ham, (as Samwise is to Sam), so 'fast' doesn't need to be accounted for.

Morsul the Dark 06-25-2017 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark (Post 707075)
1. Bree
2.OAncient, volition and loud exclamation, this hombre sings.
3. Maggot
4. Barliman
5. Aragorn
6. Daddy Twofoot
7. Inns
8. Lobelia

Pervinca's got it. The last clue I think is closest to traditional form.
The theme as best I could make it is the Flight from the Shire.

Pervinca Took 06-25-2017 06:36 AM

Ah, so if that's the theme, maybe it's Old Man Willow? I had old and will, but was looking for a one word name.

Great theme. :) I found the early part of the book too slow the first time round, but I love it now. Because Frodo hasn't yet lost the Shire at this point. :(

Ah ... OW for the loud exclamation, I think Willow Man sings to send his victims to sleep, and MAN is homme/hombre?

Morsul the Dark 06-25-2017 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark (Post 707075)
1. Bree
2. Old Man Willow
3. Maggot
4. Barliman
5. Aragorn
6. Daddy Twofoot
7. Inns
8. Lobelia

On to you, my friend

Perfect explanation for Old man willow

Pervinca Took 06-25-2017 06:45 AM

That was a great password. I didn't see Bombadil at all until I realised 4 must be Daddy Twofoot.

I have some passwords ready, but they're on my laptop, not my phone, so just a few minutes and I'll post one.

Pervinca Took 06-25-2017 07:08 AM

Here you go ...
 
1. Citrus confused, if Shakespeare .... Citrus confused, exchanges Westron exclamation for elvish one, in reflection. But both roads lead to her!
2. Old dwarf - that is, confused. But leads to a bright girl!
3. Post confused regarding her.
4. He stands clear, when Brooklyn prostitute loses direction in her confusion.
5. Flora Thompson’s glides still, though it meanders, loses direction and even meets a motorway! All within the place of the real hemlock glade - but lose a sibilant to reveal him.


EDIT: Last clue edited, to match the CORRECT spelling that I hadn't provided. ;)

Morsul the Dark 06-25-2017 07:27 AM

Brooklyn prostitute... words I've never thought I'd see on the Downs.

But somehow I'm thinking Vivian Ward from Pretty Woman. But not sure where to go from there

Pervinca Took 06-25-2017 07:34 AM

The prostitute character is from a film, but not Pretty Woman. A much darker film, with Brooklyn in the title. I've only seen bits of it. As Sam would say, 'It gave me the shivers.'

EDIT: Morsul, do you think the solved Bombadil password could have the clues put back, so we can see what the answers referred to?

Morsul the Dark 06-25-2017 09:30 AM

4. Alatar anagram of Tralala.

Added clues back

Pervinca Took 06-25-2017 09:37 AM

1. Citrus confused, if Shakespeare .... Citrus confused, exchanges Westron exclamation for elvish one, in reflection. But both roads lead to her!
2. Old dwarf - that is, confused. But leads to a bright girl!
3. Post confused regarding her.
ALATAR: He stands clear, when Brooklyn prostitute loses direction in her confusion.
5. Flora Thompson’s glides still, though it meanders within the place of the real hemlock glade. Lose a sibilant to reveal him.

Correct - Tralala gets confused, and also loses one of her L's (L = left, a direction).

Apparently 'Last Exit To Brooklyn' was a novel first.

Thanks for putting the clues back! :)

Galadriel55 06-25-2017 11:23 AM

Morsul, that was a great password! I'm sorry I missed the whole thing. And I know themed aren't necessary, but I like themed passwords better, it's like an extra clue that you work in.

3. Is there a character called Ilma? That's the only good sounding name I can get from scrambling mail around. Thought I'd check before I search for other synonyms.

Galadriel55 06-25-2017 11:25 AM

Arien for bright girl? Nar and ie confused.

Pervinca Took 06-25-2017 12:10 PM

1. Citrus confused, if Shakespeare .... Citrus confused, exchanges Westron exclamation for elvish one, in reflection. But both roads lead to her!
ARIEN: Old dwarf - that is, confused. But leads to a bright girl!
3. Post confused regarding her.
ALATAR: He stands clear, when Brooklyn prostitute loses direction in her confusion.
5. Flora Thompson’s glides still, though it meanders within the place of the real hemlock glade. Lose a sibilant to reveal him.

Arien is correct, and for the reasons you state. Nar is specifically referred to as an old dwarf.

Right synonym and right unscrambling. There is a character whose name *begins* with ILMA. If you look carefully, though, there's a little bit more to add, AFTER the scrambled bit.

Morsul the Dark 06-25-2017 02:14 PM

Ilmare

Mail scrambled
RE regarding a common Mail description

That would make

1.
2.A
3.I
4.A
5.

Since they're all in some way related I'm going with MAIAR only Tolkien word I can think of with that pattern.

Morsul the Dark 06-25-2017 02:23 PM

1. Meliean

Yeah.... I don't get the second part of the clue but I kept circling melon as a anagram of lemon then got to lime for meliean

Pervinca Took 06-25-2017 03:07 PM

MELIAN: Citrus confused, if Shakespeare .... Citrus confused, exchanges Westron exclamation for elvish one, in reflection. But both roads lead to her!
ARIEN: Old dwarf - that is, confused. But leads to a bright girl!
ILMARE: Post confused regarding her.
ALATAR: He stands clear, when Brooklyn prostitute loses direction in her confusion.
R: Flora Thompson’s glides still, though it meanders within the place of the real hemlock glade. Lose a sibilant to reveal him.

Yes, this password has a theme, and the answer is MAIAR.

Re = short for regarding: hence ILMARE.

Slight mis-spelling of MELIAN ;)


You got the two correct citrus fruits, and the correct end result, but it was two separate clues leading to the same answer.

1. LIME confused = MELI, plus AN, a word Shakespeare often used to mean 'if.' Example:

'Get up, get up, an you be a man!' (The Nurse in 'Romeo and Juliet').

2. LEMON confused gives MELON. Exchange the Westron exclamation O for the elvish one, AI (as in 'Ai! Ai! A Balrog!'), but reflect it (put it in backwards). Hence: MELIAN.

EDIT: Aragorn asked for a reward - to become Frodo's companion! Of course. (Referring to one of Morsul's 'Bombadil' clues).

Morsul the Dark 06-25-2017 04:21 PM

Indeed asking for a reward was the straight clue.

Flora wrote a book of poetry "Still Glides the Stream" so I'll be working from there...

Pervinca Took 06-25-2017 04:33 PM

Correct starting point. (It's prose, though. I've read it).

Nerwen 06-26-2017 12:11 AM

Is there anyone it can be except Radagast?

Pervinca Took 06-26-2017 12:21 AM

Yes. There's another that has 2 names. Try 'Tolkien Gateway.'

Nerwen 06-26-2017 04:41 AM

Okay, it gives Rómestámo as an alternative name for Pallando, and I can see how that could work with the clues: stream + Roos, which is apparently the site of the "original" hemlock glade.

You really had me wondering if Durin's Bane was secretly known as Ralph (or something).:Merisu:

Pervinca Took 06-26-2017 06:05 AM

MELIAN: Citrus confused, if Shakespeare .... Citrus confused, exchanges Westron exclamation for elvish one, in reflection. But both roads lead to her!
ARIEN: Old dwarf - that is, confused. But leads to a bright girl!
ILMARE: Post confused regarding her.
ALATAR: He stands clear, when Brooklyn prostitute loses direction in her confusion.
ROMESTAMO: Flora Thompson’s glides still, though it meanders, loses direction and even meets a motorway! All within the place of the real hemlock glade - but lose a sibilant to reveal him.

Correct! 'Roos' on the outside (where Edith sang and danced for Ronald), lose the sibilant (s), and 'stream' 'meanders' within it.

Well done all, and over to Morsul again! :)

EDIT: Romestamo clue edited, to match the CORRECT spelling that I hadn't provided. ;)

Galadriel55 06-26-2017 06:42 AM

Сan you explain Melian? Lime - okay, but Shakespeare and Elvish?

Pervinca Took 06-26-2017 04:19 PM

For Galadriel:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 707105)

1. LIME confused = MELI, plus AN, a word Shakespeare often used to mean 'if.' Example:

'Get up, get up, an you be a man!' (The Nurse in 'Romeo and Juliet').

2. LEMON confused gives MELON. Exchange the Westron exclamation O for the elvish one, AI (as in 'Ai! Ai! A Balrog!'), but reflect it (put it in backwards). Hence: MELIAN.



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