The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/index.php)
-   Quiz Room (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13)
-   -   Password (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=10279)

Nerwen 03-05-2018 09:11 PM

That's it!

N Boys and sailors scrambled for this Númenórean beauty.
I Evergreens found among the doubly displaced.
MALLORN Evil and lonely? In these fair woods?
LEBETHRON Carved up, more high and honorable article gives support to a quest and guards a crown.
OLD MAN WILLOW Another senior citizen sung better, and gave him something to weep over.
6. A sound of danger troubles its branches.
HUORN A sleeping shepherd, one rating away from a Tasmanian conifer.

Huinesoron 03-06-2018 04:25 AM

Aha! Not Nisimaldar, but NESSAMELDA, the fragrant tree beloved of lads and seamen alike.

hS

Nerwen 03-06-2018 04:34 AM

Indeed.

NESSAMELDA Boys and sailors scrambled for this Númenórean beauty.
I Evergreens found among the doubly displaced.
MALLORN Evil and lonely? In these fair woods?
LEBETHRON Carved up, more high and honorable article gives support to a quest and guards a crown.
OLD MAN WILLOW Another senior citizen sung better, and gave him something to weep over.
6. A sound of danger troubles its branches.
HUORN A sleeping shepherd, one rating away from a Tasmanian conifer.

Pervinca Took 03-06-2018 12:28 PM

6. TELPERION: tone + peril.

7. ILEXES? (Anagram of 'exiles'). Even if it is a 'real world' tree, there are plenty of those in Tolkien's Middle-earth. They're probably mentioned in Ithilien or somewhere.

... quick google ...

It's Latin for holly. OK. I daresay there were ilexes in Hollin, then.

Nerwen 03-06-2018 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 710825)
6. TELPERION: tone + peril.

Yep.

Quote:

7. ILEXES? (Anagram of 'exiles'). Even if it is a 'real world' tree, there are plenty of those in Tolkien's Middle-earth. They're probably mentioned in Ithilien or somewhere.

... quick google ...

It's Latin for holly. OK. I daresay there were ilexes in Hollin, then.
Indeed. Ilexes *are* mentioned by name in Ithilien, though, so I thought it would work as a reference to either. And I needed an "I".

There! All done!:cool:

NESSAMELDA Boys and sailors scrambled for this Númenórean beauty.
ILEXES Evergreens found among the doubly displaced.
MALLORN Evil and lonely? In these fair woods?
LEBETHRON Carved up, more high and honorable article gives support to a quest and guards a crown.
OLD MAN WILLOW Another senior citizen sung better, and gave him something to weep over.
TELPERION A sound of danger troubles its branches.
HUORN A sleeping shepherd, one rating away from a Tasmanian conifer.

Pervinca Took 03-07-2018 12:07 AM

So ... it's back to Huinesoron!

Huinesoron 03-07-2018 03:40 AM

Thanks for the password, Nerwen - it completely melted my brain at first, but we got there in the end!

Trying something a little different here ('Oh no!', they all cry...); it shouldn't be too unclear (I hope).

And the results of the kings' footrace are in!
1. In first place, the doll-king who simply is rage!
2. In second place, the exiled king to borrow sickness from!
3. Next, he would have been first had he not run backwards, this king's son's legs are more famous than his!
4. In fourth place, things are just short of desperate for this grey king!
5. Coming in second from last and feeling a bit green, this king's memories could be of him, or...
6. And in very last place, this elven-king fears things will shortly go ill; glad he didn't win, then!

hS

Nerwen 03-07-2018 06:35 AM

Could that be ELENDIL in second place? ("Lend ill")?

Huinesoron 03-07-2018 06:37 AM

It is indeed!

And the results of the kings' footrace are in!
1. In first place, the doll-king who simply is rage!
elendil - In second place, the exiled king to borrow sickness from!
3. Next, he would have been first had he not run backwards, this king's son's legs are more famous than his!
4. In fourth place, things are just short of desperate for this grey king!
5. Coming in second from last and feeling a bit green, this king's memories could be of him, or...
6. And in very last place, this elven-king fears things will shortly go ill; glad he didn't win, then!

hS

Pervinca Took 03-07-2018 07:14 AM

For 3, I will unconfidently guess ELENDUR (perhaps spelled backwards). One of the last things Isildur says to him is 'King's son!' For the legs ... he was said to be very like his grandfather, who was called Elendil the Tall.

Huinesoron 03-07-2018 08:31 AM

I like it, but I'm afraid not.

(You are looking for the king in 'this king's son's legs...', not the son.)

hS

Galadriel55 03-07-2018 08:35 AM

Perhaps Arathorn, then? Eomer was quite impressed with Aragorn's running ability.

Huinesoron 03-07-2018 09:10 AM

Not Arathorn. Am I about to receive an education in who has the best legs in Middle-earth...? ;)

hS

Galadriel55 03-07-2018 09:32 AM

On the off-chance that "go ill" and "glad" are not said by accident, Gil-Galad for 6?

Huinesoron 03-07-2018 09:46 AM

And the results of the kings' footrace are in!
1. In first place, the doll-king who simply is rage!
elendil - In second place, the exiled king to borrow sickness from!
3. Next, he would have been first had he not run backwards, this king's son's legs are more famous than his!
4. In fourth place, things are just short of desperate for this grey king!
5. Coming in second from last and feeling a bit green, this king's memories could be of him, or...
gil-galad - And in very last place, this elven-king fears things will shortly go ill; glad he didn't win, then!

Gil-Galad it is; 'shortly' is meant to be a hint that you need to contract the next few words.

hS

Pervinca Took 03-07-2018 01:06 PM

Could the doll-king be Vardamir Noliman, son of Elros, whose rule was only titular and who let his son take the throne instead?

Huinesoron 03-07-2018 03:27 PM

Alas, he is not.

hS

Pervinca Took 03-07-2018 05:22 PM

Is the grey king Thingol or Singollo?

'Losing' could perhaps be the 'desperate' element.

Huinesoron 03-07-2018 05:27 PM

No and no.

hS

Nerwen 03-08-2018 01:58 AM

So what could "doll king" mean? That is a very strange description...

Nerwen 03-08-2018 02:29 AM

Apparently "Gram" (father of Helm Hammerhand) means "fierce" in Old English- but then I can't see how the rest of the clue would apply.:confused:

Maybe gram = small measurement?

Huinesoron 03-08-2018 03:27 AM

You may be overthinking it a little. :) It's not Gram.

Finding synonyms for 'rage' is along the right tracks, though.

hS

Nerwen 03-08-2018 04:58 AM

AMROTH? ("Am wrath")?

Huinesoron 03-08-2018 05:07 AM

And the results of the kings' footrace are in!
amroth - In first place, the doll-king who simply is rage!
elendil - In second place, the exiled king to borrow sickness from!
3. Next, he would have been first had he not run backwards, this king's son's legs are more famous than his!
4. In fourth place, things are just short of desperate for this grey king!
5. Coming in second from last and feeling a bit green, this king's memories could be of him, or...
gil-galad - And in very last place, this elven-king fears things will shortly go ill; glad he didn't win, then!

Indeed! Amroth, whose name is best known from his namesake, Dol Amroth. Edit: Not to be confused with Cerin Amroth in Lorien (not that I would ever get the two mixed up...). Dude was a popular namesake.

(At some point someone is going to have to figure out which letters in these names make up the password...)

hS

Pervinca Took 03-08-2018 09:59 AM

I guessed that was the deal with the lack of capital letters.

Do you think you could bold the answers, though? They're a little hard to focus on at the moment.

Huinesoron 03-08-2018 10:25 AM

Bolded. :)

hS

Pervinca Took 03-08-2018 10:28 AM

Ta. :)

Pervinca Took 03-08-2018 10:43 AM

Maybe REGNAL. Third letter of each answer, reading from the top downwards.

Also perhaps 'would have been first if not running backwards' means the kings appear in alphabetical order.

Huinesoron 03-08-2018 12:22 PM

No and no. Sorry.

hS

Nerwen 03-09-2018 12:21 AM

More thinking aloud... who in Middle-earth has "famous legs"? I mean other than "Strider", whose father has already been discounted (and was presumeably disqualified from the race anyway due to being a mere chieftain).

Honestly I can't think of anyone...:confused:

Huinesoron 03-09-2018 01:00 AM

An apostrophe has more than one meaning.

hS

Pervinca Took 03-09-2018 01:55 AM

Not, in this case, in a way that retains grammatical sense, as far as I can see.

Legs can be the number of times round a race-track or block.

Unless one if them had a particularly impressive table with ornately carved legs.

Huinesoron 03-09-2018 03:03 AM

All right, then:

And the results of the kings' footrace are in!
amroth - In first place, the doll-king who simply is rage!
elendil - In second place, the exiled king to borrow sickness from!
3. Next, he would have been first had he not run backwards; this king's son's legs? Far more famous.
4. In fourth place, things are just short of desperate for this grey king!
5. Coming in second from last and feeling a bit green, this king's memories could be of him, or...
gil-galad - And in very last place, this elven-king fears things will shortly go ill; glad he didn't win, then!

(Clue #3 edited to allow for grammatical sense. I think the other remaining clues hold up.)

hS

Pervinca Took 03-09-2018 12:25 PM

I will guess ELROS for 4, as 3 letters short of PERILOUS, but I imagine 3 letters short is too much.

Huinesoron 03-09-2018 01:10 PM

Not Elros, but again, synonyms are the way to go. (It's not even anagrammed this time!)

hS

Huinesoron 03-10-2018 05:10 PM

A general hint, then: a certain historical event ties all these kings together.

hS

Nerwen 03-11-2018 07:41 AM

Battle of Dagorlad? In which case I guess we have AMDÍR in fourth place?

Pervinca Took 03-11-2018 09:06 AM

If grey referred to Grey Elves, I guess the 'a bit green' one is either Oropher or Thranduil. Both fought in the Last Alliance and both were kings at some time.

Huinesoron 03-11-2018 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 710872)
Battle of Dagorlad? In which case I guess we have AMDÍR in fourth place?

Indeed! He am dir(e).

All right, then:

And the results of the kings' footrace are in!
amroth - In first place, the doll-king who simply is rage!
elendil - In second place, the exiled king to borrow sickness from!
3. Next, he would have been first had he not run backwards; this king's son's legs? Far more famous.
amdir - In fourth place, things are just short of desperate for this grey king!
5. Coming in second from last and feeling a bit green, this king's memories could be of him, or...
gil-galad - And in very last place, this elven-king fears things will shortly go ill; glad he didn't win, then!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 710876)
If grey referred to Grey Elves, I guess the 'a bit green' one is either Oropher or Thranduil. Both fought in the Last Alliance and both were kings at some time.

Could well be! Team Legolas was well represented in the Last Alliance (though presumably he himself wasn't there). But can you fit either of them to the rest of the clue...?

hS

Pervinca Took 03-11-2018 11:13 AM

No.

Unless the 'memories' bit means that he died in the battle, as GG did, in which case it would be Oropher.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:05 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.