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Kath 06-13-2020 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 727649)
Enemy?

Yes! So now 'reduced title' - what goes with Enemy?

Pervinca Took 06-13-2020 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kath (Post 727650)
Yes! So now 'reduced title' - what goes with Enemy?

THE Enemy?

Kath 06-14-2020 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 727655)
THE Enemy?

Noo. You need another word for 'reduced'.

Mithalwen 06-14-2020 06:15 PM

Is 4 lazy lob which was one of the insults Bilbo taunted the spiders with?

Pervinca Took 06-15-2020 03:34 AM

So we can see it:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kath (Post 727597)
1. Absence in brides met with initial resistance
OLD MAN WILLOW: Whiskerless traveller's joy at avoiding extremes of hosiery
3. Men grow out baffled at this louse's conversation
4. Throw after the idle
5. Unseen; hidden
6. Reduced title for foe
GALADRIEL'S MIRROR: This lass railed around her reflector


Kath 06-15-2020 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen (Post 727683)
Is 4 lazy lob which was one of the insults Bilbo taunted the spiders with?

It is Mith! :)

Kath 06-15-2020 01:00 PM

1. Absence in brides met with initial resistance
OLD MAN WILLOW: Whiskerless traveller's joy at avoiding extremes of hosiery
3. Men grow out baffled at this louse's conversation
LAZY LOB: Throw after the idle
5. Unseen; hidden
6. Reduced title for foe
GALADRIEL'S MIRROR: This lass railed around her reflector

Galadriel55 06-15-2020 01:42 PM

Still no clue about 1. BRIDES can sort of become BRIGANDS, but there is no absence. What can be called an absence? Lack? Truancy? Void? :confused:

Pervinca Took 06-15-2020 03:10 PM

COILING for the password?

Barmy idea, but ... willow roots are in coils, spider webs can coil ... er ... the water in Galadriel's mirror can coil or swirl around ... and the foe clue might be Necromancer ... which, er, doesn't coil.

I'll get me coat. ;)

Kath 06-15-2020 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 727698)
Still no clue about 1. BRIDES can sort of become BRIGANDS, but there is no absence. What can be called an absence? Lack? Truancy? Void? :confused:

Yes yes! Lack ... in brides ... and you already had the riders ...

Kath 06-15-2020 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 727702)
COILING for the password?

Barmy idea, but ... willow roots are in coils, spider webs can coil ... er ... the water in Galadriel's mirror can coil or swirl around ... and the foe clue might be Necromancer ... which, er, doesn't coil.

I'll get me coat. ;)

Not coiling but I love the inventiveness. :cool:

Galadriel55 06-15-2020 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kath (Post 727706)
Yes yes! Lack ... in brides ... and you already had the riders ...

*facepalm* duh. Black Riders. :o Took me long enough.

Pervinca Took 06-16-2020 08:42 AM

Wormtongue for the louse?

(Grow men out).

Bowling? :D

Kath 06-16-2020 02:23 PM

RIDERS, BLACK: Absence in brides met with initial resistance
OLD MAN WILLOW: Whiskerless traveller's joy at avoiding extremes of hosiery
WORMTONGUE Men grow out baffled at this louse's conversation
LAZY LOB: Throw after the idle
5. Unseen; hidden
6. Reduced title for foe
GALADRIEL'S MIRROR: This lass railed around her reflector

Well done G55 and Pervinca on the clues but still no dice on the password I'm afraid.

Galadriel55 06-16-2020 02:53 PM

Ohhh! Is it Rowling? For the things that had a Tolkien parallel? *lightbulb*

Kath 06-16-2020 04:45 PM

RIDERS, BLACK: Absence in brides met with initial resistance (dementors)
OLD MAN WILLOW: Whiskerless traveller's joy at avoiding extremes of hosiery (whomping willow)
WORMTONGUE Men grow out baffled at this louse's conversation (wormtail)
LAZY LOB: Throw after the idle (aragog)
I Unseen; hidden
N Reduced title for foe
GALADRIEL'S MIRROR: This lass railed around her reflector (pensieve)

You got it G55! Also please note I made this password before all the controversy she's just caused. :rolleyes:

Galadriel55 06-16-2020 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kath (Post 727725)
You got it G55! Also please note I made this password before all the controversy she's just caused. :rolleyes:

I live under a rock and don't know abiut the controversy. But a novel and a personal opinion are very different things, and the author and the person are very different things too. One should neither condemn nor condone one because of the other. In any case, that is an absolutely brilliant idea for a password! Two thumbs up for the theme! :)

I am still finding the clues a bit difficult without a straight element, but if we just have to reduce enemy, can it be... (E)NEMY? :Merisu:

Mithalwen 06-16-2020 08:51 PM

Stabbing in the dark that N something to do with Necromancer which would also be a fitting description of Voldemort and that I might be invisible Harry has an invisibility cloak and the ring makes most people invisible and the Elvish cloaks male you blend in

Pervinca Took 06-16-2020 11:46 PM

What an utterly BRILLIANT password, Kath, and your first one, too! :)

Huinesoron 06-17-2020 06:36 AM

Or maybe something like NAMELESS for N? I'm sure Sauron is called the Nameless Enemy at least once, and old I Am Lord is 'He Who Shall Not Be Named'.

Agreeing with the others - this is a fantastic password, though with no straight clues it's been a real struggle.

hS

Galadriel55 06-17-2020 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen (Post 727728)
I might be invisible Harry has an invisibility cloak and the ring makes most people invisible and the Elvish cloaks male you blend in

On that note, how about Isildur's Bane?


Edit: a browse through Enc of Arda also revealed Inscrutable. But no relation to HP, unless a pun on Unspeakables.

Kath 06-17-2020 10:59 AM

RIDERS, BLACK: Absence in brides met with initial resistance (dementors)
OLD MAN WILLOW: Whiskerless traveller's joy at avoiding extremes of hosiery (whomping willow)
WORMTONGUE Men grow out baffled at this louse's conversation (wormtail)
LAZY LOB: Throw after the idle (aragog)
INVISIBLE Unseen; hidden (cloak vs ring)
NAMELESS ENEMY Reduced title for foe (he who must not be named)
GALADRIEL'S MIRROR: This lass railed around her reflector (pensieve)

You all figured it out! Sorry Hui for the no straight clues. I had no idea how to even start going about these so I just went with what Google managed to teach me. :D

Galadriel55 06-17-2020 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kath (Post 727733)
You all figured it out! Sorry Hui for the no straight clues. I had no idea how to even start going about these so I just went with what Google managed to teach me. :D

I loved the password and the theme! It was a bit tough to start, as Hui said, because there were no straight clues to follow. But we managed anyways. :) I wish I could rep you, but apparently WW was too recent.

I learned how to do these clues from the famous Post #7. But password clues don't need to cryptic, we just default to those for whatever reason. I might do something non-cryptic on purpose for my next one to throw in some variability. In fact, I think I have a fun idea in mind...

Urwen 06-18-2020 10:23 AM

Um?

Galadriel55 06-19-2020 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 727746)
Um?

You're back! Just on time for a perfectly themed password.


This password probably took longer to make than it will take to solve. I thought to include some instructions at first, but then I thought it would tumble faster than I can confirm responses. So let's try without instructions at first, but hints will be given freely as this is an experimental thing. The piece I will give is that asterisked clues have the "red letter" not as their first letter.


1. I eat well myself, and if you see what I mean, it’s better than cooking.
2. I do, and now, if you have the floor, I don't care if you say Aranya or Kingsfoil for now.
3. I am Dimrill Dale Falls, owner of 10 new Ballins in Yeastrade Morei.
4. That darkness lies behind us, and our to to take turn our backward upon it, and our will will don't desire to returned thither even on intelligent. Westwards our hearts to to take achieved turn, and our believable this that our shall found lit.
5*. The three for us taking abrue to don't challenge that hundred, then our go taking ahead and speak taking feigned voices, lead the them in onto wood
6. Myself take save you are a the to lasted. You are a take always only failed my and always myself take recovered you are. Myself having you are a originate I father and himself originate for old. Conditionally to ever you are a come the originate forges the for true king the under mountain, went with currently and speedily good!
7. Unique rankings as a criterion for everyone A unique ranking to find them in a unique ranking so that everyone can enter and bind them in the dark.
8*. L? Why worry about each other? Will he give me rest at night or during the day?
9*. The language has changed dramatically; But the wrong name indicates. A dream? I have not heard any reports that allow the truth.
10*. Hello doll! Congratulations, doll! You call Dong Delu! Call Dong! Leave it together! Completed! Tom Boom, Jolly Tom, Tom Pompidillo!
11*. Stay, resist, fight against the government, keep secret, enter the government like a tower, break trust…
12*. So I said we would keep doing it, and I would increase the penalty. Work is an issue that we must work on in her song until the big day.
13. I understand your review, but some people know. If you want to answer, why don't you speak a common language with the West in the usual way?

Mithalwen 06-19-2020 12:08 PM

Dearest cub, are you feeling quite well?:eek:

Urwen 06-19-2020 01:57 PM

1. Gollum?

Huinesoron 06-19-2020 02:42 PM

#11. FINROD? (Or FELAGUND, perhaps)

hS

Pervinca Took 06-19-2020 06:43 PM

1 seems to be a paraphrase of what Bilbo says to the trolls when they capture him.

Mithalwen 06-19-2020 08:08 PM

It looks a bit like chunks of text have gone back and forth through Google translate.

Galadriel55 06-19-2020 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 727766)
#11. FINROD? (Or FELAGUND, perhaps)

hS

Correct. The answer is Finrod, with I as the password letter. To be filled in on the computer rather than phone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 727768)
1 seems to be a paraphrase of what Bilbo says to the trolls when they capture him.

Indeed. Bilbo is the answer for #1, password letter is B.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen (Post 727769)
It looks a bit like chunks of text have gone back and forth through Google translate.

Bingo! I knew you'd get there without me telling you the algorithm. ;)

Blind Guardian 06-20-2020 12:01 AM

Is #7 the One Ring inscription?


Unique rankings as a criterion for everyone A unique ranking to find them in a unique ranking so that everyone can enter and bind them in the dark.

One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them

Also number 10: that song from Tom Bombadil. Hey doll, deary doll, or whatever it was. I never liked Tom Bombadil. :rolleyes:

Urwen 06-20-2020 02:07 AM

Those look like google translate versions of canonical quotes...

Galadriel55 06-20-2020 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian (Post 727771)
Is #7 the One Ring inscription?


Unique rankings as a criterion for everyone A unique ranking to find them in a unique ranking so that everyone can enter and bind them in the dark.

One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them

Also number 10: that song from Tom Bombadil. Hey doll, deary doll, or whatever it was. I never liked Tom Bombadil. :rolleyes:

Correct for both.

7. Preciousss
10. Bombadil, letter D

I still haven't gotten to the computer for a proper filling in, but it's coming, I promise...

Galadriel55 06-20-2020 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 727772)
Those look like google translate versions of canonical quotes...

Yes.

Pervinca Took 06-20-2020 07:42 AM

8. Sounds rather like what Saruman says to Gandalf, Theoden and Co at Isengard.

Galadriel55 06-20-2020 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 727776)
8. Sounds rather like what Saruman says to Gandalf, Theoden and Co at Isengard.

Bingo! Somehow "well" got shortened to the like-sounding L, and I am not sure which language is responsible for that, but I find it amusing.

Any guesses for the theme yet?


1. BILBO: I eat well myself, and if you see what I mean, it’s better than cooking. (I am a good cook myself, and cook better than I cook, if you see what I mean.)
2. I do, and now, if you have the floor, I don't care if you say Aranya or Kingsfoil for now.
3. I am Dimrill Dale Falls, owner of 10 new Ballins in Yeastrade Morei.
4. That darkness lies behind us, and our to to take turn our backward upon it, and our will will don't desire to returned thither even on intelligent. Westwards our hearts to to take achieved turn, and our believable this that our shall found lit.
5*. The three for us taking abrue to don't challenge that hundred, then our go taking ahead and speak taking feigned voices, lead the them in onto wood
6. Myself take save you are a the to lasted. You are a take always only failed my and always myself take recovered you are. Myself having you are a originate I father and himself originate for old. Conditionally to ever you are a come the originate forges the for true king the under mountain, went with currently and speedily good!
7. PRECIOUSSS: Unique rankings as a criterion for everyone A unique ranking to find them in a unique ranking so that everyone can enter and bind them in the dark. (One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.)
8*. SARUMAN: L? Why worry about each other? Will he give me rest at night or during the day?(Well? Why must you disturb my rest? Will you give me no peace at all by night or day?)
9*. The language has changed dramatically; But the wrong name indicates. A dream? I have not heard any reports that allow the truth.
10*. TOM BOMBADIL: Hello doll! Congratulations, doll! You call Dong Delu! Call Dong! Leave it together! Completed! Tom Boom, Jolly Tom, Tom Pompidillo! (Hey dol! merry dol! ring a dong dillo! Ring a dong! hop along! fal lal the willow! Tom Bom, jolly Tom, Tom Bombadillo!)
11*. FINROD: Stay, resist, fight against the government, keep secret, enter the government like a tower, break trust… (Sang in answer a song of staying, Resisting, battling against power, Of secrets kept, strength like a tower, And trust unbroken…)
12*. So I said we would keep doing it, and I would increase the penalty. Work is an issue that we must work on in her song until the big day.
13. I understand your review, but some people know. If you want to answer, why don't you speak a common language with the West in the usual way?

Huinesoron 06-20-2020 04:37 PM

#4: I thought for a while this could be one of the Finarfinions avoiding discussing the Kinslaying with Thingol, but then I thought of BEOR to Finrod: "A darkness lies behind us" etc.

#2: 'Kingsfoil' gives this away as ARAGORN sassing the herb-master of Minas Tirith. :)

I can't wait to find out who owns ten new Balins!

hS

Galadriel55 06-20-2020 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 727778)
#4: I thought for a while this could be one of the Finarfinions avoiding discussing the Kinslaying with Thingol, but then I thought of BEOR to Finrod: "A darkness lies behind us" etc.

#2: 'Kingsfoil' gives this away as ARAGORN sassing the herb-master of Minas Tirith. :)

I can't wait to find out who owns ten new Balins!

hS

Correct on both! Will add original quotes later, again, when on the computer and have access to the texts.

PS. The tip about putting empty highlught boxes while on the computer is a genious idea. It would be a total nightmare on the phone.



1. BILBO: I eat well myself, and if you see what I mean, it’s better than cooking. (I am a good cook myself, and cook better than I cook, if you see what I mean.)
2. ARAGORN: I do, and now, if you have the floor, I don't care if you say Aranya or Kingsfoil for now.
3. I am Dimrill Dale Falls, owner of 10 new Ballins in Yeastrade Morei.
4. BEOR: That darkness lies behind us, and our to to take turn our backward upon it, and our will will don't desire to returned thither even on intelligent. Westwards our hearts to to take achieved turn, and our believable this that our shall found lit.
5*. The three for us taking abrue to don't challenge that hundred, then our go taking ahead and speak taking feigned voices, lead the them in onto wood
6. Myself take save you are a the to lasted. You are a take always only failed my and always myself take recovered you are. Myself having you are a originate I father and himself originate for old. Conditionally to ever you are a come the originate forges the for true king the under mountain, went with currently and speedily good!
7. PRECIOUSSS: Unique rankings as a criterion for everyone A unique ranking to find them in a unique ranking so that everyone can enter and bind them in the dark. (One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.)
8*. SARUMAN: L? Why worry about each other? Will he give me rest at night or during the day?(Well? Why must you disturb my rest? Will you give me no peace at all by night or day?)
9*. The language has changed dramatically; But the wrong name indicates. A dream? I have not heard any reports that allow the truth.
10*. TOM BOMBADIL: Hello doll! Congratulations, doll! You call Dong Delu! Call Dong! Leave it together! Completed! Tom Boom, Jolly Tom, Tom Pompidillo! (Hey dol! merry dol! ring a dong dillo! Ring a dong! hop along! fal lal the willow! Tom Bom, jolly Tom, Tom Bombadillo!)
11*. FINROD: Stay, resist, fight against the government, keep secret, enter the government like a tower, break trust… (Sang in answer a song of staying, Resisting, battling against power, Of secrets kept, strength like a tower, And trust unbroken…)
12*. So I said we would keep doing it, and I would increase the penalty. Work is an issue that we must work on in her song until the big day.
13. I understand your review, but some people know. If you want to answer, why don't you speak a common language with the West in the usual way?

Urwen 06-21-2020 02:43 AM

5 reminds me of three hunters...


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