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Mithalwen 10-02-2019 09:11 AM

Yes to Boromir but you are getting colder with the remaining clue.

Pervinca Took 10-02-2019 10:33 AM

So we can see it.

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen (Post 720642)
1 ELENWE The Spanish, in France, take directions for her.
2 AMROTH Prince of Wales? Another preposition would be more apt.
3 BERUTHIEL Her instruction for mercy preceded confused fib.
4 NUMENOR Muddled nun more lost here?
5 ISILDURThe king is otherwise sensational although a bit mixed up.
6 NIENOR Her countenance is slightly awry to begin with however.
7 N A bloomer from a border
8 DROGO Fall endlessly for him, then proceeed.
9 BOROMIR Steal confusedly with a Spanish painter.
10 BELERIAND Here strong, Elvish Queen loses grace initially but takes note.
11 MAGLOR - Graduate is endlessly glorious.


Pervinca Took 10-02-2019 12:01 PM

The Floating Log?

Mithalwen 10-02-2019 12:31 PM

No.

Pervinca Took 10-02-2019 01:07 PM

Primula - from Buckland? On the Shire's borders.

Primula BaggiNs or Primula BraNdybuck.

Her name is a bloomer.

She drowned.

Mithalwen 10-02-2019 01:12 PM

Yep . Near enough

1 ELENWE The Spanish, in France, take directions for her.
2 AMROTH Prince of Wales? Another preposition would be more apt.
3 BERUTHIEL Her instruction for mercy preceded confused fib.
4 NUMENOR Muddled nun more lost here?
5 ISILDURThe king is otherwise sensational although a bit mixed up.
6 NIENOR Her countenance is slightly awry to begin with however.
7 PRIMULA BRANDYBUCK bloomer from a border
8 DROGO Fall endlessly for him, then proceeed.
9 BOROMIR Steal confusedly with a Spanish painter.
10 BELERIAND Here strong, Elvish Queen loses grace initially but takes note.
11 MAGLOR - Graduate is endlessly glorious.

Huinesoron 10-03-2019 02:09 AM

Phwoo! An excellent and challenging password, Mith; Pervinca, I remain in awe of your password-solving skills. ^_^

hS

Pervinca Took 10-03-2019 05:50 AM

'Water Ending' was a great password. Nice and original, too.

Don't get too hung up on the password too early with this one. It's a South Yorkshire dialect word, so may not be familiar to all - I thought it only fair to say so. So keep guessing the clues and see what happens.

Hope you like it.

1. Friend and goddess. Lose an article to carry Undomiel.
2. Regarding him, one would hope not to hear this happened to the owner! – the thing that initially swallows apricot rolls, that is.
3. Benign growth attached to monarch, without note, reveals him.
4. See him strike family!
5. See him appear, when a Baggins runs back.
6. Gold meat? Mince it to see him!

Huinesoron 10-03-2019 06:10 AM

#3: 'monarch without note' suggests an ending of KIN, and... well, a growth might be a LUMP, or potentially even a FATTY LUMP-KIN.

Which immediately suggests that #4 might be fellow pony BUMP-KIN.

... wikis really do make some of these fall quickly, don't they? #5: AROD looked like it could be a Hobbit name backwards, and sure enough, Dora Baggins is Frodo's aunt and famed letter-writer.

hS

Pervinca Took 10-03-2019 06:45 AM

1. Friend and goddess. Lose an article to carry Undomiel.
2. Regarding him, one would hope not to hear this happened to the owner! – the thing that initially swallows apricot rolls, that is.
FATTY LUMPKIN: Benign growth attached to monarch, without note, reveals him.
BUMPKIN: See him strike family!
AROD: See him appear, when a Baggins runs back.
6. Gold meat? Mince it to see him!

Sorry, I was mistaken. It's a random letter password.

Huinesoron 10-03-2019 07:49 AM

It's clear at this point that you meant South Yorkshire, Greece, and the password must be 'hippos'. :D

#1: 'To carry Undomiel' sounds like we're looking for Arwen's horse (which is what put my in the horsey mindset to start with), but I don't think she has a named horse. (I said doesn't; put Asfaloth back!)

On the other hand, what she does have is a grey PALFREY to take her to Minas Tirith, which is pal + Freya. So I'd say that'll do nicely.

hS

Pervinca Took 10-03-2019 08:33 AM

PALFREY: Friend and goddess. Lose an article to carry Undomiel.
2. Regarding him, one would hope not to hear this happened to the owner! – the thing that initially swallows apricot rolls, that is.
FATTY LUMPKIN: Benign growth attached to monarch, without note, reveals him.
BUMPKIN: See him strike family!
AROD: See him appear, when a Baggins runs back.
6. Gold meat? Mince it to see him!

Well remembered - or checked. ;)

Huinesoron 10-03-2019 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 720658)
Well remembered - or checked. ;)

Checked, I'm afraid - but I'll take a little more credit for this one than for 'Category:Horses', because at least I had to figure out where to look. :)

Still pondering the last two clues.

hS

Huinesoron 10-04-2019 02:35 AM

For #6, I'm going to throw out a guess at HASUFEL, who's the only horse not already used with an AU in it (for gold). The only word I can make with the leftover letters is SHELF, but... no, hang on, it's FLESH, isn't it?

As far as #2 goes... okay, Hurin had a horse named ARROCH, which is made up of ROCH (Sindarin 'horse', so 'the thing' itself) + AR (Apricot Rolls). I... guess you wouldn't want a rock to 'happen' to Hurin? I don't know, I'm grasping at hay here.

hS

Pervinca Took 10-04-2019 07:53 AM

PALFREY: Friend and goddess. Lose an article to carry Undomiel.
2. Regarding him, one would hope not to hear this happened to the owner! – the thing that initially swallows apricot rolls, that is.
FATTY LUMPKIN: Benign growth attached to monarch, without note, reveals him.
BUMPKIN: See him strike family!
AROD: See him appear, when a Baggins runs back.
HASUFEL: Gold meat? Mince it to see him!

Think of what you wouldn't want to happen in relation to the horse itself.

The AR is correct, but in Arroch, it isn't swallowed, is it? ;)

Huinesoron 10-04-2019 09:04 AM

Ah, now I follow the structure. You certainly wouldn't want to hear Eorl fel(l) of(f) his apricot-loving steed FELAROF.

hS

Pervinca Took 10-04-2019 09:43 AM

PALFREY: Friend and goddess. Lose an article to carry Undomiel.
FELAROF: Regarding him, one would hope not to hear this happened to the owner! – the thing that initially swallows apricot rolls, that is.
FATTY LUMPKIN: Benign growth attached to monarch, without note, reveals him.
BUMPKIN: See him strike family!
AROD: See him appear, when a Baggins runs back.
HASUFEL: Gold meat? Mince it to see him!

THEME: POPPOS (South Yorkshire slang for horses and ponies).

Game, set and match to Huinesoron!

Huinesoron 10-04-2019 10:04 AM

Thanks - that was a good one, a nice mix of dominos to follow and tricky clues to frown over. :) And I never would have guessed the password itself.

Here we go with something that may not be quite as nice. :-/

1. - The king stands before a warren, to devour him subjectively.
2. - "Here, Lou - in!" Only fair, no?
3. - No Gollum, but say "Oh! Win!" to claim sword and shield.
4. - Legolas' end by Gimli denoted on the long shore.
5. - 1, lord of what?
6. - The top and tail of a farmer's song, the head of a sea-maid - a king?
7. - One cloth trumpet for a walker.
8. - Reported by the dwarves: lisping shark, one (French).
9. - Listen, the crowned one is glad: add hay to reel.
10. - A stick or a steed?
11. - He is taken past the family.
12. - Adam fell? Add one at the end, subtract six from the start, flip it around for one of two.

hS

Pervinca Took 10-04-2019 10:33 AM

7. A-rag-(h)orn.

One of the Nine Walkers, and also called Strider.

10. A-rod.

Pervinca Took 10-04-2019 11:36 AM

1. THEODEN has 4 letters standing before DEN.

HE - the subject form of him - is swallowed, but by T and O, which I can't account for.

Huinesoron 10-04-2019 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 720666)
7. A-rag-(h)orn.

One of the Nine Walkers, and also called Strider.

10. A-rod.

Yes and yes. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 720667)
1. THEODEN has 4 letters standing before DEN.

HE - the subject form of him - is swallowed, but by T and O, which I can't account for.

Correct. As the clue says: TO devour [HE]. :D

THEODEN - The king stands before a warren, to devour him subjectively.
2. - "Here, Lou - in!" Only fair, no?
3. - No Gollum, but say "Oh! Win!" to claim sword and shield.
4. - Legolas' end by Gimli denoted on the long shore.
5. - 1, lord of what?
6. - The top and tail of a farmer's song, the head of a sea-maid - a king?
ARAGORN - One cloth trumpet for a walker.
8. - Reported by the dwarves: lisping shark, one (French).
9. - Listen, the crowned one is glad: add hay to reel.
AROD - A stick or a steed?
11. - He is taken past the family.
12. - Adam fell? Add one at the end, subtract six from the start, flip it around for one of two.

hS

Pervinca Took 10-04-2019 12:07 PM

5. Rohan, if it refers to clue 1?

Or Sauron or the Ring, if it refers to the One Ring?

Galadriel55 10-04-2019 12:44 PM

3. Slightly silly guess for EOWYN eho sounds like (E) Oh! Win!.

4. ANFALAS: "one foe less", referring to their pseudo-competition at Helm's Deep.

Galadriel55 10-04-2019 12:45 PM

8. Tharkun.

Huinesoron 10-04-2019 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 720669)
5. Rohan, if it refers to clue 1?

Or Sauron or the Ring, if it refers to the One Ring?

It doesn't refer to either of those. (At which point, I'm not sure how many countable sets with an obvious number 1 there are left in Middle-earth...)

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 720670)
3. Slightly silly guess for EOWYN eho sounds like (E) Oh! Win!.

... correct. ^_^ Specifically it's 'Say oh win', without any nasssssty Essssses.

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 720670)
4. ANFALAS: "one foe less", referring to their pseudo-competition at Helm's Deep.

That's really good, but no - though 'the long shore' does refer to Anfalas.

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 720671)
8. Tharkun.

It'th a thark! Yes.

THEODEN - The king stands before a warren, to devour him subjectively.
2. - "Here, Lou - in!" Only fair, no?
EOWYN - No Gollum, but say "Oh! Win!" to claim sword and shield.
4. - Legolas' end by Gimli denoted on the long shore.
5. - 1, lord of what?
6. - The top and tail of a farmer's song, the head of a sea-maid - a king?
ARAGORN - One cloth trumpet for a walker.
THARKUN - Reported by the dwarves: lisping shark, one (French).
9. - Listen, the crowned one is glad: add hay to reel.
AROD - A stick or a steed?
11. - He is taken past the family.
12. - Adam fell? Add one at the end, subtract six from the start, flip it around for one of two.

Pervinca Took 10-04-2019 04:28 PM

2. HIRLUIN the Fair.

11. The past of taken is TOOK, so is it Pippin? Peregrin? Everard? Gerontius? A male of that family.

5. White tree?

THE ...

It looks like THE OTHERS ... the people in TTT and ROTK but not with Frodo. The people and poppos in Books 3 and 5. But 'others' doesn't have 2 A's or as many letters.

Mithalwen 10-04-2019 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 720653)
Phwoo! An excellent and challenging password, Mith; Pervinca, I remain in awe of your password-solving skills. ^_^

hS

Thank you. It had to be a broad interpretation as The W was elusive. I never heard of poppos to mean equines despite growing up in Rohan- by-the-Sea, albeit in the South. Have recently heard bobos but that is East Midlands

Pervinca Took 10-04-2019 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen (Post 720677)
Thank you. It had to be a broad interpretation as The W was elusive. I never heard of poppos to mean equines despite growing up in Rohan- by-the-Sea, albeit in the South. Have recently heard bobos but that is East Midlands

My family use the term. It's a South Yorkshire word.

Huinesoron 10-05-2019 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 720676)
2. HIRLUIN the Fair.

Correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 720676)
11. The past of taken is TOOK, so is it Pippin? Peregrin? Everard? Gerontius? A male of that family.

TOOK is the answer, and refers to Pippin, but I needed the T.

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 720676)
5. White tree?

Nope. I suppose they are a countable set, but the one you need is counted by Tolkien.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 720676)
THE ...

It looks like THE OTHERS ... the people in TTT and ROTK but not with Frodo. The people and poppos in Books 3 and 5. But 'others' doesn't have 2 A's or as many letters.

It does start with 'the'. :)

THEODEN - The king stands before a warren, to devour him subjectively.
HIRLUIN - "Here, Lou - in!" Only fair, no?
EOWYN - No Gollum, but say "Oh! Win!" to claim sword and shield.
4. - Legolas' end by Gimli denoted on the long shore.
5. - 1, lord of what?
6. - The top and tail of a farmer's song, the head of a sea-maid - a king?
ARAGORN - One cloth trumpet for a walker.
THARKUN - Reported by the dwarves: lisping shark, one (French).
9. - Listen, the crowned one is glad: add hay to reel.
AROD - A stick or a steed?
TOOK - He is taken past the family.
12. - Adam fell? Add one at the end, subtract six from the start, flip it around for one of two.

hS

Pervinca Took 10-05-2019 02:04 AM

Isn't everything countable in the books counted by Tolkien?

Huinesoron 10-05-2019 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 720680)
Isn't everything countable in the books counted by Tolkien?

I wouldn't say so? You can count the High Kings of the Noldor, but Tolkien never sits down and says "Seven* were the High Kings of that people, and chief among them was Finwe," or somesuch.

*Eight? Does Maglor count for his regency during Maedhros' captivity?

hS

Mithalwen 10-05-2019 07:46 AM

I wonder if Poppos is related to hippos or if just coincidence. Anyway vague stab at Galadriel for nine. If you ‘any fer ‘orses to glad and add reel it might sound like it and her name means radiantly garlanded maiden ..

Huinesoron 10-05-2019 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen (Post 720682)
I wonder if Poppos is related to hippos or if just coincidence. Anyway vague stab at Galadriel for nine. If you ‘any fer ‘orses to glad and add reel it might sound like it and her name means radiantly garlanded maiden ..

Galadriel it is, and for exactly that reason. (As far as Yorkshire dialect goes, I personally don't think they have any logic behind their words. My Mam's from Leeds, so maybe matters are different in the southerly bits...)

THEODEN - The king stands before a warren, to devour him subjectively.
HIRLUIN - "Here, Lou - in!" Only fair, no?
EOWYN - No Gollum, but say "Oh! Win!" to claim sword and shield.
4. - Legolas' end by Gimli denoted on the long shore.
5. - 1, lord of what?
6. - The top and tail of a farmer's song, the head of a sea-maid - a king?
ARAGORN - One cloth trumpet for a walker.
THARKUN - Reported by the dwarves: lisping shark, one (French).
GALADRIEL - Listen, the crowned one is glad: add hay to reel.
AROD - A stick or a steed?
TOOK - He is taken past the family.
12. - Adam fell? Add one at the end, subtract six from the start, flip it around for one of two.

hS

Pervinca Took 10-05-2019 09:08 AM

The Great Gate?

Pervinca Took 10-05-2019 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 720684)
The Great Gate?

Although ... what would the gate of Minas Tirith have to do with Galadriel?

Hang on ... did Balin and Co drive out foes from the Great Gate?

Huinesoron 10-05-2019 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 720684)
The Great Gate?

Is the password. :)

THEODEN - The king stands before a warren, to devour him subjectively.
HIRLUIN - "Here, Lou - in!" Only fair, no?
EOWYN - No Gollum, but say "Oh! Win!" to claim sword and shield.
4. G? - Legolas' end by Gimli denoted on the long shore.
5. R? - 1, lord of what?
6. E? - The top and tail of a farmer's song, the head of a sea-maid - a king?
ARAGORN - One cloth trumpet for a walker.
THARKUN - Reported by the dwarves: lisping shark, one (French).
GALADRIEL - Listen, the crowned one is glad: add hay to reel.
AROD - A stick or a steed?
TOOK - He is taken past the family.
12. E? - Adam fell? Add one at the end, subtract six from the start, flip it around for one of two.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 720685)
Hang on ... did Balin and Co drive out foes from the Great Gate?

I think the gates of Moria were only named West and East. The Lonely Mountain had a Front Gate. I may be wrong, but I think there's only one Great Gate:

Quote:

Although ... what would the gate of Minas Tirith have to do with Galadriel?
That's for me to know and you to puzzle over. :)

hS

Pervinca Took 10-05-2019 01:28 PM

5. Radagast, 1 of 5, lord of birds and beasts?

Huinesoron 10-05-2019 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 720687)
5. Radagast, 1 of 5, lord of birds and beasts?

Nope. I will say that the word you need for the password is the answer to 'lord of what?', rather than the actual name of 1.

Also, 1 was chosen deliberately. Radagast is by no means #1 of the Five Wizards.

hS

Mithalwen 10-05-2019 05:35 PM

Is 6 Eomer?. Farmer’s song being Old Macdonald giving E and o and sea maid may be mermaid

Huinesoron 10-06-2019 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen (Post 720689)
Is 6 Eomer?. Farmer’s song being Old Macdonald giving E and o and sea maid may be mermaid

Spot on. :)

THEODEN - The king stands before a warren, to devour him subjectively.
HIRLUIN - "Here, Lou - in!" Only fair, no?
EOWYN - No Gollum, but say "Oh! Win!" to claim sword and shield.
4. G? - Legolas' end by Gimli denoted on the long shore.
5. R? - 1, lord of what?
EOMER - The top and tail of a farmer's song, the head of a sea-maid - a king?
ARAGORN - One cloth trumpet for a walker.
THARKUN - Reported by the dwarves: lisping shark, one (French).
GALADRIEL - Listen, the crowned one is glad: add hay to reel.
AROD - A stick or a steed?
TOOK - He is taken past the family.
12. E? - Adam fell? Add one at the end, subtract six from the start, flip it around for one of two.

hS


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