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Urwen 08-14-2019 02:04 AM

And here it is
 
1. Noble maiden comes after a note, for her great-grandmother
2. A sick rodent is in disarray, for her.
3. A returning element is inside a distance unit, slightly disturbed. She appears.
4. Sea nymphs spin around, and she is revealed.
5. A dwarf is inside a queue for her.

(Both of the people in the first clue are Tolkien characters)

Pervinca Took 08-14-2019 03:31 AM

1. E-arwen.

Urwen 08-14-2019 04:16 AM

EARWEN: Noble maiden comes after a note, for her great-grandmother
2. A sick rodent is in disarray, for her.
3. A returning element is inside a distance unit, slightly disturbed. She appears.
4. Sea nymphs spin around, and she is revealed.
5. A dwarf is inside a queue for her.

Pervinca Took 08-14-2019 05:57 AM

4. SERINDE, from NEREIDS.

Urwen 08-14-2019 05:59 AM

Nope, it's the other one, who is related to Anardil and Emerwen and Irimon. :p

Pervinca Took 08-14-2019 06:00 AM

Erendis. :)

And ELVES.

Urwen 08-14-2019 06:36 AM

Yes to Erendis, no to the password. Last I checked, Erendis isn't an Elf.

Pervinca Took 08-14-2019 12:31 PM

5. LINDORIE.

DORI inside LINE.

Urwen 08-14-2019 02:34 PM

EARWEN: Noble maiden comes after a note, for her great-grandmother
2. A sick rodent is in disarray, for her.
3. A returning element is inside a distance unit, slightly disturbed. She appears.
ERENDIS: Sea nymphs spin around, and she is revealed.
LINDORIE: A dwarf is inside a queue for her.

Huinesoron 08-16-2019 02:00 AM

A sick rodent could be an ill rat, which gives almost everything we need for ITARILLE.

If the element is Iridium, and the unit is mile, then by disturbing the end of the latter we get MIRIEL.

hS

Urwen 08-16-2019 07:16 AM

EARWEN: Noble maiden comes after a note, for her great-grandmother
2. A sick rodent is in disarray, for her.
MIRIEL: A returning element is inside a distance unit, slightly disturbed. She appears.
ERENDIS: Sea nymphs spin around, and she is revealed.
LINDORIE: A dwarf is inside a queue for her.


No to 2.

Urwen 08-16-2019 07:18 AM

Hint: My aunt had hamsters once, and they were cute.

Pervinca Took 08-16-2019 08:18 AM

MITHRELLAS = ill hamster. Not an aunt of Lalaith, though.

What does EMMEL mean?

Urwen 08-16-2019 09:34 AM

EARWEN: Noble maiden comes after a note, for her great-grandmother
MITHRELLAS: A sick rodent is in disarray, for her.
MIRIEL: A returning element is inside a distance unit, slightly disturbed. She appears.
ERENDIS: Sea nymphs spin around, and she is revealed.
LINDORIE: A dwarf is inside a queue for her.

I mean my real-life aunt. And emmel means 'mother', suprise. :p

Over to you.

Huinesoron 08-16-2019 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 719735)
And emmel means 'mother', suprise. :p

Now that's an interesting word. Per Ardalambion, it's a variant spelling of an archaic poetic Sindarin word (the common word being naneth). It looks like a cognate to Quenya amillė of the same meaning, so why did Sindarin adopt an entirely different word?

Actually, naneth seems to be a Noldorin neologism, while Sindarin, Quenya, Ilkorin, Qenya, and Gnomish all use variants on amil/emil. But the Hive Mind insists on naneth as the common noun...

Tolkien fan-linguistics is weird, basically.

hS

Pervinca Took 08-16-2019 09:56 AM

1. Dish transforms, initially.
2. Deadly disease loses direction, note, for them.
3. Why, we hear, is a curved top unsung for them?
4. Sounds like it has very little fat on it.

Did Tolkien ever use the word 'emmel,' or has it been put together/worked out from his notes?

Urwen 08-16-2019 10:05 AM

The first one doesn't have a straight clue.

Pervinca Took 08-16-2019 10:49 AM

Yes it does.

Urwen 08-16-2019 11:11 AM

1. Dis?

Pervinca Took 08-16-2019 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 719746)
1. Dis?

No, it's the initial that transforms.

Urwen 08-16-2019 11:44 AM

Tish? That makes no sense, though.

Urwen 08-16-2019 11:45 AM

I am assumiing 'dish' is a straight clue, then.

Pervinca Took 08-16-2019 12:03 PM

It is both straight and cryptic.

Galadriel55 08-16-2019 07:40 PM

Well, FISH then, which is a dish.

Galadriel55 08-16-2019 08:19 PM

I feel like I should know #2, but it's escaping me. A disease that's bad enough to be described as deadly. First thoughts were smallpox and bubonic plague, but those didn't yield anything useful. Turning to modern epidemiology, there is of course cancer, which is more promising for an anagram, but still gives me no good result. In the field of infectious diseases, ebola is both sufficiently fatal and well-known to be a candidate, but again can't make the letters fit. What does make a nice anagram with the note E is SARS, but unfortunately I doubt the Downs swear check will allow me to post it. I have tried both interpretations of removing direction - taking out a letter and scrambling - but so far no luck.

What else? Lots of things are deadly, but theh don't seem like a good fit for various reasons. Organ failure of any kind will kill you, but unless it's due to cancer it doesn't usually get enough public attention. Lots of infectious diseases can also kill you, but they are either obscure or treatae in an otherwise healthy person and therefore are less likely to be the "deadly" culprit. Heck, diabetes is a horrible killing disease, but since insulin has become available people don't think of it that way. Stroke? Potentially anagrammable, though I wouldn't quite call it a disease in itself so much as a manifestation of disease.

I can sort of stretch Carc from cancer and Eol from ebola, but neither one fits "them". Ugh.

So no proper guesses so far, just frustrated thoughts out loud. Maybe it will help someone though.

Pervinca Took 08-16-2019 11:41 PM

FISH: Dish transforms, initially.
2. Deadly disease loses direction, note, for them.
3. Why, we hear, is a curved top unsung for them?
4. Sounds like it has very little fat on it.

Urwen 08-17-2019 03:13 AM

Password: Food

Pervinca Took 08-17-2019 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 719772)
Password: Food


Not food, but similar.

Can you guess the theme?

Urwen 08-17-2019 03:49 AM

I assume 2 and 3 are races?

Pervinca Took 08-17-2019 04:54 AM

3 is.

Pervinca Took 08-19-2019 12:24 AM

Work out the theme ... it's like Urwen's guess at the password but more specific ... then the rest of the clues should be quite easy.

Urwen 08-19-2019 01:57 AM

I can't think of anything else.....

Pervinca Took 08-19-2019 03:15 AM

What is it about the one clue guessed so far that makes it a specifically Middle-earth answer?

Urwen 08-19-2019 03:40 AM

Riddles between Bilbo and Gollum? Except no other riddle answer begins with F.

Pervinca Took 08-19-2019 04:24 AM

Not riddles. Try again.

Urwen 08-19-2019 06:10 AM

Then I give up.

Morsul the Dark 08-19-2019 07:49 AM

Password similar to food Could be

FEED

making 4 either Dine or Dinner sounds like thin

Three is a race and the only thing I can think of is

ENT because Bent could be a curve and unsung take away the b which is a music note?

Pervinca Took 08-19-2019 10:28 AM

Not feed, I'm afraid.

Hint for 3: the answer is an elvish word. Not obscure. It occurs in LOTR.

Urwen 08-19-2019 10:47 AM

Lindar (lid+something?)

Galadriel55 08-19-2019 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 719819)
Hint for 3: the answer is an elvish word. Not obscure. It occurs in LOTR.

I am convinced that it starts with Y, but can't make heads or tails with the rest. Yrch?


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