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Urwen 04-02-2019 05:03 AM

Halmir (Mi as the first half of mini, and R for direction?)
Or Haldan?

Pervinca Took 04-02-2019 05:19 AM

No.

Urwen 04-02-2019 06:00 AM

Haldad?

Huinesoron 04-02-2019 07:11 AM

Ah. I think the theme is FATHERS AND DAUGHTERS, which makes the two missing names:

HURIN - okay, yes, initial H + it's 'urine' without the E for east = direction. Cheeky blighter.

and

ELROND - acronym for 'loner' + D for daddy.

hS

Pervinca Took 04-02-2019 09:41 AM

LOTHIRIEL: Ioreth, two liquids and I make a queenly combination.
URWEN: ‘Heard you, little bird!’ (She appears, with minimal disturbance).
THINGOL: Emaciated Stoor begins to resemble a highborn elf.
HURIN: He’s initially a wee lad, without direction.
IMRAHIL: Edge around and greet him, with another little spin.
ELROND: Loner? In a roundabout way, but not by choice. (A daddy, though, initially).
NEWRA: New bra loses plosive, but she appears with it back to front!

THEME: FATHERS & DAUGHTERS

Acronym? Anagram of LONER plus the D (initial) of 'daddy.'

Well done all, and over to Urwen!

Huinesoron 04-02-2019 09:45 AM

Acronym, anagram, acrostic, assonance... one of those sneaky beggars.

hS

Urwen 04-02-2019 11:48 AM

Here, you can have another.



1. A celestial body gains direction, and the lesser ones appear
2. He shares his name with an ancient mythical kingdom, muddled up a bit
3. A confused animal, but also the King's brother
4. He is glum and full of courage
5. Direction precedes a confused god for a keeper
6. A roman numeral precedes a baked good for him
7. Reverse this strong metal, and he'll appear


Finding these was hard.

Huinesoron 04-02-2019 12:12 PM

#7 must be either NORI (reverse of iron)... or something tricksy. ^_^

(Shock horror, the chemist guesses a chemical element...)

hS

Urwen 04-02-2019 12:19 PM

Right-o
 
1. A celestial body gains direction, and the lesser ones appear
2. He shares his name with an ancient mythical kingdom, muddled up a bit
3. A confused animal, but also the King's brother
4. He is glum and full of courage
5. Direction precedes a confused god for a keeper
6. A roman numeral precedes a baked good for him
NORI: Reverse this strong metal, and he'll appear

Pervinca Took 04-02-2019 12:22 PM

6. IBUN - I plus BUN?

Urwen 04-02-2019 12:42 PM

1. A celestial body gains direction, and the lesser ones appear
2. He shares his name with an ancient mythical kingdom, muddled up a bit
3. A confused animal, but also the King's brother
4. He is glum and full of courage
5. Direction precedes a confused god for a keeper
IBUN: A roman numeral precedes a baked good for him
NORI: Reverse this strong metal, and he'll appear

Pervinca Took 04-02-2019 12:56 PM

Hmm. LONI is 'lion' confused, but I don't think he's a king's brother.

And I feel 5 should be THRAIN, as I don't know of any other dwarven ring-keepers, but it doesn't start with a direction. Is Rani a god(dess)?

Pervinca Took 04-02-2019 12:58 PM

Oh, is 5 THROR?

Thor + R, and all of it confused.

Urwen 04-02-2019 01:09 PM

None correct, though it is a Norse god.


Also, Thorin has six letters, while the password has 7 letters.


Though maybe using dwarves alone for both the clues and the password would have been a better idea. I'll remember it in the distant future.

Pervinca Took 04-02-2019 01:21 PM

I realised my mistake and deleted my password guess, just before your post.

Galadriel55 04-02-2019 02:42 PM

4. Grimbold?

Pervinca Took 04-02-2019 03:24 PM

Maeglin for the password?

Urwen 04-02-2019 04:02 PM

I've been found out
 
M: A celestial body gains direction, and the lesser ones appear
A: He shares his name with an ancient mythical kingdom, muddled up a bit
E: A confused animal, but also the King's brother
GRIMBOLD: He is glum and full of courage
L: Direction precedes a confused god for a keeper
IBUN: A roman numeral precedes a baked good for him
NORI: Reverse this strong metal, and he'll appear


Incidentally, the animal from clue 4 has a certain connection to the password, as it is.

Pervinca Took 04-02-2019 05:13 PM

L = LINDO, keeper of the Cottage Of Lost Play.

I had a feeling the god was Odin.

Pervinca Took 04-02-2019 05:15 PM

E = ELMO? (Mole).

Oh ... and a mole can be a spy ....

Urwen 04-02-2019 05:18 PM

M: A celestial body gains direction, and the lesser ones appear
A: He shares his name with an ancient mythical kingdom, muddled up a bit
ELMO: A confused animal, but also the King's brother
GRIMBOLD: He is glum and full of courage
LINDO: Direction precedes a confused god for a keeper
IBUN: A roman numeral precedes a baked good for him
NORI: Reverse this strong metal, and he'll appear


Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 714430)
E = ELMO? (Mole).

Oh ... and a mole can be a spy ....


I believe that it was symbolic, yea.

Huinesoron 04-03-2019 03:42 AM

M... 'A Mars' + E for east gives MEARAS, who are kelvar rather than incarnates, and so lesser.

hS

Urwen 04-03-2019 03:56 AM

It works, but not exactly what I had in mind.

Huinesoron 04-03-2019 04:03 AM

Well... Maia is one of the Pleiades, add Right, you get MAIAR, the lesser Ainur?

hS

Urwen 04-03-2019 04:06 AM

MAIAR: A celestial body gains direction, and the lesser ones appear
A: He shares his name with an ancient mythical kingdom, muddled up a bit
ELMO: A confused animal, but also the King's brother
GRIMBOLD: He is glum and full of courage
LINDO: Direction precedes a confused god for a keeper
IBUN: A roman numeral precedes a baked good for him
NORI: Reverse this strong metal, and he'll appear

Huinesoron 04-03-2019 04:22 AM

Okay, mythical kingdoms beginning with A... Atlantis, Avalon, Albion. I can get partial matches for some of those, but none that are as firm as 'shares a name'.

...

I don't suppose you think Aragon was mythical, do you? Because that's only one letter from ARAGORN.

...

From a Legendarium perspective, Artanor (the old name for Doriath) might be considered a mythical kingdom. But... there are no direct anagrams of Artanor in my lists. :-/

hS

Urwen 04-03-2019 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 714437)
Okay, mythical kingdoms beginning with A... Albion.


That's the one, also you're forgetting the second part of the clue.

Huinesoron 04-03-2019 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 714438)
That's the one, also you're forgetting the second part of the clue.

... surely it can't be ALBOIN, semi-protagonist of The Lost Road?

hS

Pervinca Took 04-03-2019 06:07 AM

Ah, I thought Maiar was the answer, but couldn't find the right heavenly body. I even tried Mir, the space station! I didn't know there was a star called Maia. Learning stuff! :)

Is there a theme, Urwen?

Urwen 04-03-2019 06:44 AM

MAIAR: A celestial body gains direction, and the lesser ones appear
ALBOIN: He shares his name with an ancient mythical kingdom, muddled up a bit
ELMO: A confused animal, but also the King's brother
GRIMBOLD: He is glum and full of courage
LINDO: Direction precedes a confused god for a keeper
IBUN: A roman numeral precedes a baked good for him
NORI: Reverse this strong metal, and he'll appear


Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 714442)
Ah, I thought Maiar was the answer, but couldn't find the right heavenly body. I even tried Mir, the space station! I didn't know there was a star called Maia. Learning stuff! :)

Is there a theme, Urwen?


1. Neither did I, until two days ago.
2. No, there wasn't a theme.
3. In honor of solve, Imma post a verse of a song:
Born in grief, raised in hate
Helpless to defy his fate
Let him run, let him live
But do not forget what we cannot forgive.


Over to you.

Pervinca Took 04-03-2019 07:04 AM

Very apt!

Great puzzle, Urwen. :)

Here's the next one:

1. A tiny amount of wrinkles are found here.
2. Move vehicle here (might need a push?)
3. Its not easy here it requires courage.
4. Terrifying place.
5. Yearn, but not for a high thing (or place).
6. Dressmaking tool gets an award here?

Huinesoron 04-04-2019 03:54 AM

Okay... is #4 GORGOROTH, which translates as 'place of horror'?

hS

Pervinca Took 04-04-2019 06:27 AM

No. :D

Correct logic, but too sophisticated.

Huinesoron 04-05-2019 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 714467)
No. :D

Correct logic, but too sophisticated.

Then is it the Ered Gorgoroth, which Tolkien explicitly names the Mountains of Terror?

Is #3 HARDBOTTLE, home of the Bracegirdles of Northfarthing? Hard = not easy, bottle = courage (in... actually I honestly couldn't put it in a sentence, but I know it does).

... oh, wait.

2. BUDGEFORD, where you budge your Ford Fiesta (after, presumably, it gets stuck in the ford). It's close to the Brandywine Bridge.

4. SCARY is over in the Eastfarthing.

5. LONGBOTTOM is where you long for something at the bottom.

1. (jumping back) could be WHITFURROWS, as in 'not a whit' and furrowed brows.

And 6. must be PINCUP, a trophy for tacks.

And a bit of poking around reveals that the password might be I DRANN, 'the Shire' in Sindarin.

hS

PS: If these are all right... sorry. :-/ 'Hardbottle' got me onto Shire places, 'Scary' fixed me there, and there aren't all that many of them to go around. ~hS

Galadriel55 04-05-2019 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 714479)
Then is it the Ered Gorgoroth, which Tolkien explicitly names the Mountains of Terror?

Is #3 HARDBOTTLE, home of the Bracegirdles of Northfarthing? Hard = not easy, bottle = courage (in... actually I honestly couldn't put it in a sentence, but I know it does).

... oh, wait.

2. BUDGEFORD, where you budge your Ford Fiesta (after, presumably, it gets stuck in the ford). It's close to the Brandywine Bridge.

4. SCARY is over in the Eastfarthing.

5. LONGBOTTOM is where you long for something at the bottom.

1. (jumping back) could be WHITFURROWS, as in 'not a whit' and furrowed brows.

And 6. must be PINCUP, a trophy for tacks.

And a bit of poking around reveals that the password might be I DRANN, 'the Shire' in Sindarin.

hS

PS: If these are all right... sorry. :-/ 'Hardbottle' got me onto Shire places, 'Scary' fixed me there, and there aren't all that many of them to go around. ~hS

A whole password in a single post. This... wow. This must be a record. :D

Are you looking for the "liquid courage" phrase for the stuff in the bottle?

Huinesoron 04-05-2019 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 714480)
A whole password in a single post. This... wow. This must be a record. :D

I know, I knooooow... :( I feel bad. At least I left it a couple of days, though?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 714480)
Are you looking for the "liquid courage" phrase for the stuff in the bottle?

That's probably where it came from, but by checking Wiktionary, I think the sense I'm thinking of is "lost your bottle" - as in, "I was going to join 13 dwarves on an adventure, but I lost my bottle and hid in the pantry until they left."

hS

Galadriel55 04-05-2019 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 714481)
I know, I knooooow... :( I feel bad. At least I left it a couple of days, though?

Hey, that was a compliment! And yeah, I had the chance to stare at it several times, without any lightbulbs. :D

Pervinca Took 04-05-2019 09:02 AM

WHITFURROWS: Tiny amount of wrinkles are found here.
BUDGEFORD: Move vehicle here (might need a push?)
HARDBOTTLE: It’s not easy here – it requires courage.
SCARY: Terrifying place.
LONGBOTTOM: Yearn, but not for a high thing (or place).
PINCUP: Dressmaking tool gets an award here?

THEME: PLACES IN THE SHIRE.

PASSWORD: 'I'DRANN' (Sindarin for 'The Shire.')


Well, what can I say? ;)

Don't feel you need to hold back when you know the answer.

I stumbled across the Sindarin word 'I'Drann' and decided it might be quite easy to make a Shire password puzzle with it. I was going to post no letters highlighted and see if you could work out where the password was. ;)

Whilst the names *are* all on the same map, I still say it was jolly well done. (The solving, I mean!)

I thought the first to fall would be 'Longbottom,' though!

Over to Huey, and well-deserved!

(P.S. The red ones are all third letters, and should line up perfectly, but Word (and the threads) have other ideas).

Huinesoron 04-05-2019 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 714483)
Don't feel you need to hold back when you know the answer.

I'll take that under advisement. >: D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 714483)
I stumbled across the Sindarin word 'I'Drann' and decided it might be quite easy to make a Shire password puzzle with it. I was going to post no letters highlighted and see if you could work out where the password was. ;)

I'm not sure I would have if I hadn't been driving hard to get the whole thing! I've never heard the term before (I'm guessing it's from the King's Letter), and only found it after exhausting all possibilities of Shire placenames with letters from Pincup at the end.

That was an excellent password (and I'm not just saying that because of the lack of anagrams ;)). The clues were all specific enough to be sure I had the right answer, but only once I'd got the theme as well.

This one, however, I'm not nearly so confident about:

1. I save a third of a dwarf for last; seek me at the meeting of man and Eru.
2. Backwards we fall, the headless onion and I; are we an ogre or ent we?
3. Wearyhearted, I splash through the water with the Mariner, second in line.
4. But for my sword, you might think me an aged woman; I am not a number.
5. From paved road and shortened speech, I build and become white.
6. We're tall and we rock! And some of us are more or less decent.

hS

Pervinca Took 04-05-2019 09:51 AM

3. Aerandir sailed with Earendil - first mentioned of his companions so maybe the second in line? But for the elements, I can only offer 'aer' (occuring twice in the heart of 'wearyhearted.')

Oh ... I can offer an anagram of 'drain' as well! :D


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