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Urwen 08-31-2015 03:01 PM

For this one, I also prepared a little suprise. It will make sense what a suprise is when you solve everything.

1. A confused basque mineral meets a confused heath plant for a traitor
2. Reversed world meets a shortened hill for a Gondorian
3. A dune with a cut-off tail in this place for him
4. Slim meets a reversed piece of wood for him
5. Initially, giant octopus lay low under mill for the guide
6. Cool insect for an orc

Galadriel55 08-31-2015 03:16 PM

2. Adrahil
5. Gollum

Urwen 08-31-2015 03:25 PM

Yes
 
1. A confused basque mineral meets a confused heath plant for a traitor
ADRAHIL: Reversed world meets a shortened hill for a Gondorian
3. A dune with a cut-off tail in this place for him
4. Slim meets a reversed piece of wood for him
GOLLUM: Initially, giant octopus lay low under mill for the guide
6. Cool insect for an orc

Pervinca Took 08-31-2015 03:53 PM

6. Radbug. (Apparently 'rad' is slang for radical/cool, and a bug is an insect).

Urwen 08-31-2015 04:00 PM

1. A confused basque mineral meets a confused heath plant for a traitor
ADRAHIL: Reversed world meets a shortened hill for a Gondorian
3. A dune with a cut-off tail in this place for him
4. Slim meets a reversed piece of wood for him
GOLLUM: Initially, giant octopus lay low under mill for the guide
RADBUG:Cool insect for an orc

Pervinca Took 08-31-2015 04:01 PM

I think lhind/lind is slim/slender in Sindarin. Dor is rod (piece of wood) backwards.

I'll guess Lindor, but it would mean using the D twice.

Actually, looking it up, there isn't a character called Lindor! Never mind.

Urwen 08-31-2015 04:07 PM

Nope, find a synonym for 'slim'. He is a leader of certain group of people....

Pervinca Took 08-31-2015 04:16 PM

Thorin has thin, but not enough of a backward stick.

OOOOHHHH!!

THINGOL. 'Thin' plus 'log' backwards.

Urwen 08-31-2015 04:22 PM

1. A confused basque mineral meets a confused heath plant for a traitor
ADRAHIL: Reversed world meets a shortened hill for a Gondorian
3. A dune with a cut-off tail in this place for him
THINGOL: Slim meets a reversed piece of wood for him
GOLLUM: Initially, giant octopus lay low under mill for the guide
RADBUG:Cool insect for an orc

Pervinca Took 08-31-2015 04:23 PM

3. A dune with a cut-off tail in this place for him

DUNHERE (dun + here)

Chieftain of the folk of Harrowdale.

Urwen 08-31-2015 04:27 PM

1. A confused basque mineral meets a confused heath plant for a traitor
ADRAHIL: Reversed world meets a shortened hill for a Gondorian
DUNHERE: A dune with a cut-off tail in this place for him
THINGOL: Slim meets a reversed piece of wood for him
GOLLUM: Initially, giant octopus lay low under mill for the guide
RADBUG: Cool insect for an orc

Almost there. I suggest googling 'basque mineral' and 'heath plant'. I got them from reverse searching parts of the name. Then you'll see the suprise.

Pervinca Took 08-31-2015 04:45 PM

I came across Alzola, but I can't think of a traitor with Z in their name, except for Ar-Pharazon, which doesn't contain any L's.

Galadriel55 08-31-2015 05:42 PM

I started out backwards. Off the top of my head, a list of traitors:

Gorlim
Maeglin
Gollum
Ulfang
Mim
Most of Feanor's sons
Saruman


Gollum and Mim can be eliminated straight away - the former is the answer to a different clue, and the latter is too short to contain two scrambled words.

Searching scrambled bits of a few of the above found me a couple of godforsaken geographical locations, obscure genera, random political movements, and a massage therapist. Great. :rolleyes:

Pervinca Took 08-31-2015 05:52 PM

Alzola + Erica ...

(Erica (the Latin term for 'heather,') came up when I googled 'heath plant.'

I bet it's one of those Numenorean kings ... Ar something.

EDIT: Anana also comes up for Basque mineral / Basque liquid salt. Anana + Erica?

Galadriel55 08-31-2015 06:15 PM

Ohhh, it's heath plants! I read that as "health plant", which would have made the search MUCH more extensive. I feel a Treebeard moment coming in. :rolleyes:

Anyways, I also found Calluna as another Latin term for heath. No idea what that could lead to, though.

Urwen 09-01-2015 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 701493)
I started out backwards. Off the top of my head, a list of traitors:

Gorlim
Maeglin
Ulfang

I'll make it easier, the answer is one of these three.

Also, part of his name could also mean 'me' or 'my' in latin when you unscramble it......kinda fitting for this particular one.....

Galadriel55 09-01-2015 07:21 AM

Very little knowledge of Latin here... I just remember that I is ego. But Google Translate insists that my/mine is meus, mea, mei. Thus, Maeglin it is.

Ling now shows up as a synonym for Calluna vulgaris, aka heather. Still can't find a concrete mineral from the first part - I just keep getting acronyms for various mining/mineral organizations, like Energy and Minerals Australia.

Galadriel55 09-01-2015 07:28 AM

Still can't see the password. ERNIL comes up vertically, but it's one letter short. NIENOR can vaguely be seen diagonally, but there's a jump between the N and O.

Oh! But wait! If you align all the words against the RIGHT side, then Nienor fits perfectly! :D

Urwen 09-01-2015 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 701503)
Still can't see the password. ERNIL comes up vertically, but it's one letter short. NIENOR can vaguely be seen diagonally, but there's a jump between the N and O.

Oh! But wait! If you align all the words against the RIGHT side, then Nienor fits perfectly! :D

MAEGLIN: A confused basque mineral meets a confused heath plant for a traitor
ADRAHIL: Reversed world meets a shortened hill for a Gondorian
DUNHERE: A dune with a cut-off tail in this place for him
THINGOL: Slim meets a reversed piece of wood for him
GOLLUM: Initially, giant octopus lay low under mill for the guide
RADBUG: Cool insect for an orc

That's it exactly. I tried to find the answers that would match against the left side, but couldn't find any, so I decided to go with the right side. T'is my big sis indeed.

As for mea bit, well, mea means mineral in basque, hence basque mineral.

Galadriel55 09-01-2015 08:02 AM

Tada! Here's another one that I enjoyed compiling, but that will probably be very easy once the first couple clues are solved.

1. Listen! In mirrored nut is he.
2. He blends local star with biblical brother.
3. Earthquake happens while company meets derogatory dragon on short street, and he appears.
4. Small aged dwarf takes direction from him.
5. He hears player jogs with animals.

Enjoy!

Pervinca Took 09-01-2015 09:57 AM

Nice one! I was going to post 'Is the surprise that there is no password?', but Galadriel's eagle eye saw what mine did not.

Pervinca Took 09-01-2015 09:58 AM

1. Tharkun. (Hark in a mirror image of nut).

2. Incanus (sun + Cain).

Both names of Gandalf, I think?

I'm wondering if it's one of those passwords where each clue connects to something, and that something is the password (like the 'Tolkien' one you did a while ago). Because I think that:

3. Is Stormcrow (co + worm + str) earthquaked/shaken up ... (Although at first I was using the standard shortening of street - St - and got as far as StormCOW. ;)

... and that the password might be GANDALF. (It was only when 'Stormcrow' started to form that I thought this, though. Thought Tharkun and Incanus was a coincidence at first).

4. Olorin (Ol (small old) + R + Oin).

I think 5 might be Mithrandir - but the only bit I can make work is 'deer' for 'dir' - 'ran' being the wrong tense for 'jogs.'

Galadriel55 09-01-2015 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 701509)
Nice one! I was going to post 'Is the surprise that there is no password?', but Galadriel's eagle eye saw what mine did not.

Don't blame my eyes, it was just the graph paper. :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 701510)
1. Tharkun. (Hark in a mirror image of nut).

2. Incanus (sun + Cain).

Both names of Gandalf, I think?

I'm wondering if it's one of those passwords where each clue connects to something, and that something is the password (like the 'Tolkien' one you did a while ago). Because I think that:

3. Is Stormcrow (co + worm + str) earthquaked/shaken up ... (Although at first I was using the standard shortening of street - St - and got as far as StormCOW.

... and that the password might be GANDALF. (It was only when 'Stormcrow' started to form that I thought this, though. Thought Tharkun and Incanus was a coincidence at first).

4. Olorin (Ol (small old) + R + Oin).

I think 5 might be Mithrandir - but the only bit I can make work is 'deer' for 'dir' - 'ran' being the wrong tense for 'jogs.'

Ha! Told you you'd get it after the first couple clues. :) But this must be a record - to solve all in one post. :) Any guesses about why Mithrandir?


PASSWORD: GANDALF
1. THARKUN Listen! In mirrored nut is he.
2. INCANUS He blends local star with biblical brother.
3. STORMCROW Earthquake happens while company meets derogatory dragon on short street, and he appears.
4. OLORIN Small aged dwarf takes direction from him.
5. MITHRANDIR He hears player jogs with animals.

Galadriel55 09-01-2015 06:12 PM

The past two days were my vacation in between babysitting and university, so I've had way more time than I did in months, which lead me to dig up old clues including this old gem of yours, Pervinca:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 683662)
3. Legend sprinted expensively, we hear, for an epesse with a tempestuous echo.

Funny, how we both picked such similar clues to represent the same person. :D It's either just the way the name is, or some subconscious memory. :eek:

Pervinca Took 09-02-2015 04:06 AM

Your 'Tolkien family' one was one of my favourites, and so was 'Brown Lands.' And the zigzag one.

I did remember my Mithrandir clue, because it was in one of my earliest passwords and I remember constructing the clue, but I think I'm maybe proudest of 'Cramsome bread' because I found one instance, and one only I think, where a 'bloomer' in Tolkien could be a loaf of bread and not a flower. :D (Also a bit embarrassed that 'dear' is an adjective and 'expensively' an adverb, so clue not 100% accurate!)

I have all my past cryptic clues and passwords saved in a document together, though, with new ones I write as I need them or the obsession takes me again (!) - I look through it now and again to make sure I'm not exactly repeating a clue if I'm using the same answer again.

But that still doesn't bring me any closer to answering your MITHRANDIR properly ... and I only guessed 'deer' because I'd run out of other Gandalf aliases. ;)

Please tell me! 'Mithran' is a Hindu name meaning sun ... a player can mean a cad or bounder as well as a gamester ... but I can't get either to fit.

Oh, and I edited my post several times. It took a while to guess them all. :)

P.S. It isn't that 'Mithran' sounds a bit like 'Marathon,' is it?

Pervinca Took 09-02-2015 04:45 AM

This one took ages to write, but you won't see why until the end. :)

1. Shakespearean harlot runs backwards for him.
2. Flower rearranged for a Baggins.
3. Complex role for this warrior.
4. Hope lost direction for her.

Galadriel55 09-02-2015 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 701520)
Your 'Tolkien family' one was one of my favourites, and so was 'Brown Lands.' And the zigzag one.

I did remember my Mithrandir clue, because it was in one of my earliest passwords and I remember constructing the clue, but I think I'm maybe proudest of 'Cramsome bread' because I found one instance, and one only I think, where a 'bloomer' in Tolkien could be a loaf of bread and not a flower. (Also a bit embarrassed that 'dear' is an adjective and 'expensively' an adverb, so clue not 100% accurate!)

I have all my past cryptic clues and passwords saved in a document together, though, with new ones I write as I need them or the obsession takes me again (!) - I look through it now and again to make sure I'm not exactly repeating a clue if I'm using the same answer again.

But that still doesn't bring me any closer to answering your MITHRANDIR properly ... and I only guessed 'deer' because I'd run out of other Gandalf aliases. ;)

Please tell me! 'Mithran' is a Hindu name meaning sun ... a player can mean a cad or bounder as well as a gamester ... but I can't get either to fit.

Oh, and I edited my post several times. It took a while to guess them all. :)

P.S. It isn't that 'Mithran' sounds a bit like 'Marathon,' is it?

Well, ok, to be perfectly honest my grammar doesn't work properly either. Originally the clue said "password player", but I thought it would be too easy. It's Mith+run+deer - hence the present tense of jogs, but then I realized the proper equivalent would be runs, not run. So we're quits. :)

3. Eorl?

1 seems easy, but I don't seem to have the right Shakespearean term. The first thing that came to mind was strumpet, but tepmurtz doesn't ring a bell. The only specific harlot I can recall from my not-too-extensive knowledge is Bianca, but she doesn't run back well either.

Pervinca Took 09-02-2015 10:25 AM

Not Bianca, or Mistress Quickly (or Doll Tearsheet, for that matter!) Hamlet uses the term I'm after in the 'Hecuba' soliloquy.

Eorl is correct.

And deserved fame for Mith!

1. Shakespearean harlot runs backwards for him.
2. Flower rearranged for a Baggins.
EORL: Complex role for this warrior.
4. Hope lost direction for her.

Galadriel55 09-02-2015 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 701523)
Not Bianca, or Mistress Quickly (or Doll Tearsheet, for that matter!) Hamlet uses the term I'm after in the 'Hecuba' soliloquy.

Ah, found it (but I had to look it up). The answer is Bard.

4. Este?

Not keen on family trees, so 2 might take some more time. Also, for some reason it bothers me that so far all the answers have 4 letters. :confused:

Pervinca Took 09-03-2015 02:05 AM

Why should it bother you? ;)

Correct. DRAB backwards is BARD and ESTEL minus L is ESTE.

Urwen 09-03-2015 02:22 AM

I've got it. 2 is Rosa, aka Aros the flower jumbled up.

The password is Bree then.

Pervinca Took 09-03-2015 02:58 AM

Yes, Rosa.

Yes, Bree.

And ................?

Urwen 09-03-2015 05:04 AM

Dale.

Pervinca Took 09-03-2015 06:16 AM

Correct. It might not look much, but it took ages to get a 4 by 4 grid in Tolkien names with a password both ends. ;) I wanted to make one like you see in squares/a grid, like in puzzle books.

I tried and tried to get one or both diagonals as well, but couldn't. At least the across ones were people and the down ones were places, though.

BARD: Shakespearean harlot runs backwards for him.
ROSA: Flower rearranged for a Baggins.
EORL: Complex role for this warrior.
ESTE: Hope lost direction for her.

Well done both, and over to Urwen.

Urwen 09-03-2015 12:40 PM

How about this?

1. Carbon precedes confused knowledge
2. Flame girl
3. Reversed wound meets a rodent for him
4. A man of stature meets a negative atom for a flower
5. Confused bullfighting cry for him
6. Leader of sea-farers
7. Note precedes confused entrance for a hero
8. Dark girl is the enemy of darkness
9. Reversed yell precedes a substance made from carbon
10. Direction precedes male name for her
11. Bleak meets an article for him
12. He shares his name with a Roman emperor
13. Reversed cut-off way for him
14. He keeps the beverage

I had a lot of fun picking this particular one and making it work. Some clues are straightforward, some are not.

Pervinca Took 09-03-2015 01:06 PM

1. Ceorl
3. Shagrat
6. Aldarion?

Pervinca Took 09-03-2015 01:17 PM

2. Arien?

Urwen 09-03-2015 01:18 PM

CEORL: Carbon precedes confused knowledge
2. Flame girl
SHAGRAT: Reversed wound meets a rodent for him
4. A man of stature meets a negative atom for a flower
5. Confused bullfighting cry for him
6. Leader of sea-farers
7. Note precedes confused entrance for a hero
8. Dark girl is the enemy of darkness
9. Reversed yell precedes a substance made from carbon
10. Direction precedes male name for her
11. Bleak meets an article for him
12. He shares his name with a Roman emperor
13. Reversed cut-off way for him
14. He keeps the beverage

Nope for 2 and 3...... for 2, try translating 'flame', and 8 is along similar lines.

Pervinca Took 09-03-2015 01:27 PM

10. Rian?

Pervinca Took 09-03-2015 01:30 PM

6. Tar?


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