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Huinesoron 01-10-2021 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 729679)
I thought it was a sound-alike, but it's not exactly. In his hubris, Pharazon gathered an ARMAMENT (arm + am + ent).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 729680)
Armanent? Great armanent?

Armament it is! His arm am ent.

GATE - Georgia back and like the French open up.
RIVER - Multiply the middle by a hundred to find Dernhelm, soaking wet.
EAGLE - Eager? No - make a Japanese shift and move it around before he flies.
ARMAMENT - Pharazon in his hubris: "My leg am Huorn! No, wait, I mean my--"
THEME - A topic or tune, an I definitely object.

Five 'Great...' s of Arda.

And Galadriel55 got the password, I believe.

hS

Galadriel55 01-10-2021 05:51 PM

That was a great password! (Pun totally intended) :D This one is inspired by it too.


1. Vowels on a table danced, and the cow in the garden quite likely pranced, but who was it again out there with the tail?
2. Where doom is, when it's near.
3. If you believe in an eye for an eye, you'd get a palindrome on a horse.
4. Denethor yells: "Haul her! Drag her! Pull her!"
5. A number mispronounced branches out upon reflection.

Pervinca Took 01-12-2021 01:53 AM

2. Mordor, in Orodruin?

Or Imladris, when 'doom is near at hand,' as said in 'the riddling words' brought by Boromir to Rivendell and recited at the Council?

Galadriel55 01-12-2021 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 729684)
2. Mordor, in Orodruin?

Or Imladris, when 'doom is near at hand,' as said in 'the riddling words' brought by Boromir to Rivendell and recited at the Council?

I'll give it to you, because you have the right quote.


1. Vowels on a table danced, and the cow in the garden quite likely pranced, but who was it again out there with the tail?
2. HAND: Where doom is, when it's near.
3. If you believe in an eye for an eye, you'd get a palindrome on a horse.
4. Denethor yells: "Haul her! Drag her! Pull her!"
5. A number mispronounced branches out upon reflection.

Urwen 01-12-2021 07:35 AM

Is the password 'WHITE' (White Hand)

Urwen 01-12-2021 07:39 AM

And if so, then 3 is RIDER.

Urwen 01-12-2021 07:45 AM

And 1 is WOLVES (Vowels rearranged, wolves live 'out there' and have tails.)

Galadriel55 01-12-2021 07:46 AM

Correct for both. I am on my phone and putting in 4 highlights is masochism, so will edit that in in a bit when I am at the comouter.

Urwen 01-12-2021 07:51 AM

Now, if 'her' is a straight clue, it makes me think of Eowyn, Aredhel or Galadriel. Drag fits for Galadriel, but the rest doesn't. And one of the synonyms fit for Aredhel, but can't fit 'her' in there. And Eowyn is Denethor's daughter-in-law...

Huinesoron 01-12-2021 08:14 AM

#4: "Tow her!" Er, I mean TOWER.

#5: "Sev'n stars / and sev'n stones / and one white T'REE"

hS

Galadriel55 01-12-2021 08:21 AM

Ol Korrect!
 
1. WOLVES: Vowels on a table danced, and the cow in the garden quite likely pranced, but who was it again out there with the tail?
2. HAND: Where doom is, when it's near.
3. RIDER: If you believe in an eye for an eye, you'd get a palindrome on a horse.
4. TOWER: Denethor yells: "Haul her! Drag her! Pull her!"
5. EERT: A number mispronounced branches out upon reflection.

And over to Urwen!


ETA, a reaction to Hui's last post: Vhat? Van vayt tree? But eef eet eez van, vhy yoo sey tree? :D

Urwen 01-12-2021 08:38 AM

Well, I had this idea for a few days...

1. 'A ruffian lie' the queen says 'A letter. Is boorish and twisted.'
2. 'Some of us know its lay' says the man 'Or at least it's a common saying that we do.'
3. 'Line the pointy things.' says the pirate
4. 'You don't want to end up in there' they warn 'You will never be able to come back. Unless you appeal by replacing the penultimate letter with its successor.'
5. The second-in-command of an evil, odd-numbered unit.

Yes, I stole Huey's 'piratey' clue.

Huinesoron 01-12-2021 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 729693)
ETA, a reaction to Hui's last post: Vhat? Van vayt tree? But eef eet eez van, vhy yoo sey tree? :D

For some reason I'm hearing this in a mock Swedish accent.

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 729694)
Yes, I stole Huey's 'piratey' clue.

All the answers are ARR and the password is ARRRR. :D For my puzzle, I'd like to-- no? No? Ah well. ;)

EDIT: Actually seriously, is #5 KHAMUL?

hS

Urwen 01-12-2021 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 729695)
EDIT: Actually seriously, is #5 KHAMUL?
hS

Indeed. :)

1. 'A ruffian lie' the queen says 'A letter. Is boorish and twisted.'
2. 'Some of us know its lay' says the man 'Or at least it's a common saying that we do.'
3. 'Line the pointy things.' says the pirate
4. 'You don't want to end up in there' they warn 'You will never be able to come back. Unless you appeal by replacing the penultimate letter with its successor.'
KHAMUL: The second-in-command of an evil, odd-numbered unit.

Galadriel55 01-12-2021 10:36 AM

Wild guess for LAND for 2?

Urwen 01-12-2021 10:40 AM

1. 'A ruffian lie' the queen says 'A letter. Is boorish and twisted.'
LAND: 'Some of us know its lay' says the man 'Or at least it's a common saying that we do.'
3. 'Line the pointy things.' says the pirate
4. 'You don't want to end up in there' they warn 'You will never be able to come back. Unless you appeal by replacing the penultimate letter with its successor.'
KHAMUL: The second-in-command of an evil, odd-numbered unit.

Huinesoron 01-12-2021 10:54 AM

So #3 could be "Arrrrr, a row!" - er, ARROW - in which case:

Is the password BLACK?

And if so, is #4 CHASM? There's not many who can return from Moria, unless they change that S to a T and rejoin the cast(m).

hS

Urwen 01-12-2021 12:27 PM

B: 'A ruffian lie' the queen says 'A letter. Is boorish and twisted.'
LAND: 'Some of us know its lay' says the man 'Or at least it's a common saying that we do.'
ARROW: 'Line the pointy things.' says the pirate
CHASM: 'You don't want to end up in there' they warn 'You will never be able to come back. Unless you appeal by replacing the penultimate letter with its successor.'
KHAMUL: The second-in-command of an evil, odd-numbered unit.


4 is actually charm > chasm

Pervinca Took 01-12-2021 01:33 PM

Another black thing in the Tolkienverse is BREATH, but I cannot reach that from the clues, so I don't think it can be right.

Urwen 01-12-2021 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 729704)
Another black thing in the Tolkienverse is BREATH, but I cannot reach that from the clues, so I don't think it can be right.


The straight clue in the last one is well-hidden.

Galadriel55 01-12-2021 02:36 PM

If a queen speaks in initial letters, for whatever reason, she could be referring to the ruffian BILL. :confused:

Urwen 01-12-2021 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 729707)
If a queen speaks in initial letters, for whatever reason, she could be referring to the ruffian BILL. :confused:


Nope. I would have said so if that were the case. ;)

Pervinca Took 01-12-2021 03:57 PM

BERUTHIEL contains brute and lie, but 'queen' isn't exactly well hidden.

A black Numenorean.

Urwen 01-12-2021 04:30 PM

BERUTHIEL: 'A ruffian lie' the queen says 'A letter. Is boorish and twisted.'
LAND: 'Some of us know its lay' says the man 'Or at least it's a common saying that we do.'
ARROW: 'Line the pointy things.' says the pirate
CHASM: 'You don't want to end up in there' they warn 'You will never be able to come back. Unless you appeal by replacing the penultimate letter with its successor.'
KHAMUL: The second-in-command of an evil, odd-numbered unit.

Over to Huinesoron.

Pervinca Took 01-13-2021 01:26 AM

Urwen, does 'A letter' just mean the H we need so we have all the letters in 'Beruthiel?'

Urwen 01-13-2021 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 729711)
Urwen, does 'A letter' just mean the H we need so we have all the letters in 'Beruthiel?'

Yes.

Huinesoron 01-13-2021 09:57 AM

That was a fun one; thanks.

This... I don't know; my brain hurts. We'll see.

1. - The crown of the north, ruled mother in anger. (Would make money but for you)
2. - Wet, not out, half under, a Nation without a capital. (Her title stolen)
3. - "I say, it's now grim, little ones." (Narrow the log backwards)
4. - Grand and very 2020: the ruin of Gondor. (Tell them no with a thick accent)
5. - Odd power, between a shin and neck both missing something, going down. (One way or another, the last.)
6. - In the shadow, girl abs? No, that's both backwards - except the plural - and wrong at once; who's in charge? (I said he's gone, but he was thin first)
7. - With his brother - or cousin - he said, "Anger might, eh?" (But for a couple of letters, he could dig for a herb)
8. - Your chai has no vowels, fallen ones. (Noted for his hair, I hear)
9. - An elf's vehicle, or a rightful king. (Throw an elven jewel)
10. - Not to roll, hardly. (The son of the sun)
11. - A horse with cold fur. (Almost definitely a god)

(Parentheticals are not part of the answer, but are separate clues as to how each one fits the theme.)

hS

Urwen 01-13-2021 10:32 AM

9. Eldacar (Elda + car)

Urwen 01-13-2021 10:34 AM

3. Naugrim?

Urwen 01-13-2021 10:42 AM

'Her title stolen' thing makes me think of Aerin/Tar-Miriel...

Huinesoron 01-13-2021 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 729718)
9. Eldacar (Elda + car)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 729719)
3. Naugrim?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 729720)
'Her title stolen' thing makes me think of Aerin/Tar-Miriel...

Yes, yes, and good thinking. Will add later when at computer.

hS

Pervinca Took 01-13-2021 01:38 PM

8. Yrch.

Fallen or corrupted elves, and 'your chai' with no vowels.

It is Legolas who says 'Yrch,' I think, and he's noted for his hair as it's not certain whether he's fair or dark. So could the theme be the people who say the words/answers?

Huinesoron 01-13-2021 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 729718)
9. Eldacar (Elda + car)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 729719)
3. Naugrim?

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 729722)
8. Yrch.

Fallen or corrupted elves, and 'your chai' with no vowels.

All three of these were correct, but,

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 729722)
It is Legolas who says 'Yrch,' I think, and he's noted for his hair as it's not certain whether he's fair or dark. So could the theme be the people who say the words/answers?

This is not. The Sindarin 'yrch' rather than 'Orcs' is just for the letter. :)

1. - The crown of the north, ruled mother in anger. (Would make money but for you)
2. - Wet, not out, half under, a Nation without a capital. (Her title stolen)
NAUGRIM - "I say, it's now grim, little ones." (Narrow the log backwards)
4. - Grand and very 2020: the ruin of Gondor. (Tell them no with a thick accent)
5. - Odd power, between a shin and neck both missing something, going down. (One way or another, the last.)
6. - In the shadow, girl abs? No, that's both backwards - except the plural - and wrong at once; who's in charge? (I said he's gone, but he was thin first)
7. - With his brother - or cousin - he said, "Anger might, eh?" (But for a couple of letters, he could dig for a herb)
YRCH - Your chai has no vowels, fallen ones. (Noted for his hair, I hear)
ELDACAR - An elf's vehicle, or a rightful king. (Throw an elven jewel)
10. - Not to roll, hardly. (The son of the sun)
11. - A horse with cold fur. (Almost definitely a god)

hS

Pervinca Took 01-13-2021 06:27 PM

Could 11 be SNOWMANE?

Galadriel55 01-13-2021 08:33 PM

4. Great Plague? :p

Huinesoron 01-14-2021 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 729725)
Could 11 be SNOWMANE?

It could

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 729726)
4. Great Plague? :p

and it is!

1. - The crown of the north, ruled mother in anger. (Would make money but for you)
2. - Wet, not out, half under, a Nation without a capital. (Her title stolen)
NAUGRIM - "I say, it's now grim, little ones." (Narrow the log backwards)
GREAT PLAGUE - Grand and very 2020: the ruin of Gondor. (Tell them no with a thick accent)
5. - Odd power, between a shin and neck both missing something, going down. (One way or another, the last.)
6. - In the shadow, girl abs? No, that's both backwards - except the plural - and wrong at once; who's in charge? (I said he's gone, but he was thin first)
7. - With his brother - or cousin - he said, "Anger might, eh?" (But for a couple of letters, he could dig for a herb)
YRCH - Your chai has no vowels, fallen ones. (Noted for his hair, I hear)
ELDACAR - An elf's vehicle, or a rightful king. (Throw an elven jewel)
10. - Not to roll, hardly. (The son of the sun)
SNOWMANE - A horse with cold fur. (Almost definitely a god)

Urwen 01-14-2021 04:55 AM

I have some vague ideas, but can't make them fit the clues...

Galadriel55 01-14-2021 07:45 AM

5. NINE: odd number, power of 3, found in shin and neck minus a few letters.

Huinesoron 01-14-2021 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 729728)
I have some vague ideas, but can't make them fit the clues...

If you can parse any of the (parentheses) for the ones people have got, it should reveal the theme very quickly. I think Eldacar's or the Naugrim's are the easiest - or, er, will be, once I correct the typo in the latter (it should say 'the log', not 'the long').

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 729729)
5. NINE: odd number, power of 3, found in shin and neck minus a few letters.

This is a really neat bit of reasoning. Totally wrong, but really nice.

hS

Urwen 01-14-2021 08:39 AM

Well, the theme (and the password) could be 'kingslayers'...But technically, Eldacar didn't kill a king, but an usurper...


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