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Urwen 05-14-2021 05:26 AM

Covid is a virus.

Pervinca Took 05-14-2021 05:49 AM

CARCHAROTH: He’s fierce! Vehicle … scorch at great and troubling temperature!
2. Stone cat – proportion without direction, but noted. Why, we ask? And such spin, for an unpleasant way to go!
3. She’s more innovative, with vowel switch and further revolution.
4. He’s sibilant immediately - sounds like a principal.
5. Greeted Radagast, initially, in his confusion.
6. Fruity soap goes end to front to form something much sharper.
7. Large stones, thrown about, lose the original fourth for them, (a multitude, parenthetically).
FINDUILAS: French finished, you hear, with Laurie Lee’s village? Mingling reveals her.
9. No clearing around him.
10. Like Covid, but the next category downwards.
AXE: Very cold place loses chariot of somewhere very hot (or so it sounds) to leave a weapon?
THEODEN: At that time, a song within him.
13. Pester for an animal.
SILMARIL: Ledge containing French husband produces a shiny thing.

Covid is a virus, yes, but what has it caused?

Huinesoron 05-14-2021 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 732238)
Covid is a virus, yes, but what has it caused?

Well, a pandemic, but EPIDEMIC didn't seem like a very Tolkien-y word.

hS

Pervinca Took 05-14-2021 07:03 AM

CARCHAROTH: He’s fierce! Vehicle … scorch at great and troubling temperature!
2. Stone cat – proportion without direction, but noted. Why, we ask? And such spin, for an unpleasant way to go!
3. She’s more innovative, with vowel switch and further revolution.
4. He’s sibilant immediately - sounds like a principal.
5. Greeted Radagast, initially, in his confusion.
6. Fruity soap goes end to front to form something much sharper.
7. Large stones, thrown about, lose the original fourth for them, (a multitude, parenthetically).
FINDUILAS: French finished, you hear, with Laurie Lee’s village? Mingling reveals her.
9. No clearing around him.
EPIDEMIC: Like Covid, but the next category downwards.
AXE: Very cold place loses chariot of somewhere very hot (or so it sounds) to leave a weapon?
THEODEN: At that time, a song within him.
13. Pester for an animal.
SILMARIL: Ledge containing French husband produces a shiny thing.

Maybe not, but it starts with an E, and I needed one.

Galadriel55 05-14-2021 01:49 PM

CAUSES OF DEATHS for password?

PS: HOUND seems to have disappeared off the solution. :confused:

Urwen 05-14-2021 01:50 PM

Could the password be Causes of Deaths? Epidemic tipped me off.

Galadriel55 05-14-2021 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 732248)
Could the password be Causes of Deaths? Epidemic tipped me off.

Great minds think alike? ;)


That makes me think 6. SPEAR, because PEAR is fruit, S is, dunno, related to soap?, and IIRC Finduilas was speared to a tree.

Pervinca Took 05-14-2021 03:58 PM

CARCHAROTH: He’s fierce! Vehicle … scorch at great and troubling temperature!
A: Stone cat – proportion without direction, but noted. Why, we ask? And such spin, for an unpleasant way to go!
U: She’s more innovative, with vowel switch and further revolution.
S: He’s sibilant immediately - sounds like a principal.
E: Greeted Radagast, initially, in his confusion.
SPEAR: Fruity soap goes end to front to form something much sharper.

O: Large stones, thrown about, lose the original fourth for them, (a multitude, parenthetically).
FINDUILAS: French finished, you hear, with Laurie Lee’s village? Mingling reveals her.

D: No clearing around him.
EPIDEMIC: Like Covid, but the next category downwards.
AXE (GIMLI'S): Very cold place loses chariot of somewhere very hot (or so it sounds) to leave a weapon?
THEODEN: At that time, a song within him.
HOUND: Pester for an animal.
SILMARIL: Ledge containing French husband produces a shiny thing.

Indeed! Well done.

PEARS is a kind of soap in the UK. I used to get it for my mum as a present when I was a kid. I think it's made with essence of pears or something, but am not 100% sure. So the pointy solution is both fruity and soapy.

Sorry, I quoted the password for the new page, but somehow quoted a version before HOUND was guessed.

Galadriel55 05-14-2021 04:11 PM

"Epidemic" suggests pairing with Lalaith, and given that we have a U, I think the answer must be URWEN = NEWER - E + U


Also searching for Theoden's loyal steed in the mix, the S could be SNOWMANE as S (sibilant) + NOW + MAIN/MANE

Pervinca Took 05-15-2021 12:55 AM

CARCHAROTH: He’s fierce! Vehicle … scorch at great and troubling temperature!
A: Stone cat – proportion without direction, but noted. Why, we ask? And such spin, for an unpleasant way to go!
URWEN: She’s more innovative, with vowel switch and further revolution.
SNOWMANE: He’s sibilant immediately - sounds like a principal.
E: Greeted Radagast, initially, in his confusion.
SPEAR: Fruity soap goes end to front to form something much sharper.

O: Large stones, thrown about, lose the original fourth for them, (a multitude, parenthetically).
FINDUILAS: French finished, you hear, with Laurie Lee’s village? Mingling reveals her.

D: No clearing around him.
EPIDEMIC: Like Covid, but the next category downwards.
AXE (GIMLI'S): Very cold place loses chariot of somewhere very hot (or so it sounds) to leave a weapon?
THEODEN: At that time, a song within him.
HOUND: Pester for an animal.
SILMARIL: Ledge containing French husband produces a shiny thing.

'Tis e'en so.

Urwen 05-15-2021 03:15 AM

D is Dior, RID+O or something...

Pervinca Took 05-15-2021 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 732254)
D is Dior, RID+O or something...

It isn't, I'm afraid. Grammatically, it would have to be 'riddance.'

Different meaning - or shade of meaning - for 'clearing.'

Urwen 05-15-2021 03:21 AM

And O is Orcs (Rocks - K)

Pervinca Took 05-15-2021 03:38 AM

CARCHAROTH: He’s fierce! Vehicle … scorch at great and troubling temperature!
A: Stone cat – proportion without direction, but noted. Why, we ask? And such spin, for an unpleasant way to go!
URWEN: She’s more innovative, with vowel switch and further revolution.
SNOWMANE: He’s sibilant immediately - sounds like a principal.
E: Greeted Radagast, initially, in his confusion.
SPEAR: Fruity soap goes end to front to form something much sharper.

ORCS (LOTS OF): Large stones, thrown about, lose the original fourth for them, (a multitude, parenthetically).
FINDUILAS: French finished, you hear, with Laurie Lee’s village? Mingling reveals her.

D: No clearing around him.
EPIDEMIC: Like Covid, but the next category downwards.
AXE (GIMLI'S): Very cold place loses chariot of somewhere very hot (or so it sounds) to leave a weapon?
THEODEN: At that time, a song within him.
HOUND: Pester for an animal.
SILMARIL: Ledge containing French husband produces a shiny thing.

Galadriel55 05-17-2021 09:21 AM

Okay, time to think out loud. We have 3 letters left, A, E, and D. E and D sound like the casualties, and A sounds like the cause. So on to some blind guessing.


Of the guessed clues, I believe the only unmatched one is Silmaril. Silmarils caused a lot of carnage around them, but I think the only death directly as a result of one was Maedhros - and that doesn't fit. ELU? Doesn't make sense, the clue seems to suggest there is an R involved.

A as a cause of death - ARROW? AGE again? It could be AUNTY AMY'S APPALING ANTEATER for all I can tell from the clue.

Pervinca Took 05-17-2021 11:06 AM

Sorry, I had Carcharoth matched with the Silmaril, because I thought it killed him, (I was wrong). Who or what were you matching with Carcharoth, G55? (Hound for Huan? Not the answer here - my fault).

None of the above A's. As a clue, the person it happened to was murdered. I just chose to use the way he died rather than the perpetrator - I think because of the letters I had to use.

...

The remaining E goes with an answer already guessed.

The remaining A and D are a pair.

Urwen 05-17-2021 12:10 PM

For the remaining A: Provided that the cat = sphynx. Add ratio without R, and do some mumbo-jumbo and you get asphyxiation

Urwen 05-17-2021 12:11 PM

And if the D is the last letter in the name, then the obvious answer is Gil-Galad...

Galadriel55 05-17-2021 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 732277)
Sorry, I had Carcharoth matched with the Silmaril, because I thought it killed him, (I was wrong). Who or what were you matching with Carcharoth, G55? (Hound for Huan? Not the answer here - my fault).

Ahhh! Yes, I thought Hound for Huan. In that case, and if Urwen is correct, are we looking for a pair for Hound for E?

Pervinca Took 05-17-2021 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 732280)
Ahhh! Yes, I thought Hound for Huan. In that case, and if Urwen is correct, are we looking for a pair for Hound for E?

Yes, HOUND goes with the remaining E, and doesn't refer to Huan.

Pervinca Took 05-17-2021 12:39 PM

CARCHAROTH: He’s fierce! Vehicle … scorch at great and troubling temperature!
ASPHYXIATION: Stone cat – proportion without direction, but noted. Why, we ask? And such spin, for an unpleasant way to go!
URWEN: She’s more innovative, with vowel switch and further revolution.
SNOWMANE: He’s sibilant immediately - sounds like a principal.
E: Greeted Radagast, initially, in his confusion.
SPEAR: Fruity soap goes end to front to form something much sharper.

ORCS (LOTS OF): Large stones, thrown about, lose the original fourth for them, (a multitude, parenthetically).
FINDUILAS: French finished, you hear, with Laurie Lee’s village? Mingling reveals her.

D: No clearing around him.
EPIDEMIC: Like Covid, but the next category downwards.
AXE (GIMLI'S): Very cold place loses chariot of somewhere very hot (or so it sounds) to leave a weapon?
THEODEN: At that time, a song within him.
HOUND: Pester for an animal.
SILMARIL: Ledge containing French husband produces a shiny thing.

There is one error, which I will treat as an 'odd one out' - not a cause of death, but a cause of being rendered very poorly! - Carcharoth and a Silmaril.

Well done, Urwen! It's SPHINX + (R)ATIO + Y + A.

Not Gil-Galad. Think of someone who was strangled.

Urwen 05-17-2021 12:41 PM

Oh, wait. I just remembered. Gil-Galad wasn't the only one to die from asphyxiation.

Right so, GLADE+0 = Deagol

I keep forgetting him for some reason...

Pervinca Took 05-17-2021 12:47 PM

CARCHAROTH: He’s fierce! Vehicle … scorch at great and troubling temperature!
ASPHYXIATION: Stone cat – proportion without direction, but noted. Why, we ask? And such spin, for an unpleasant way to go!
URWEN: She’s more innovative, with vowel switch and further revolution.
SNOWMANE: He’s sibilant immediately - sounds like a principal.
E: Greeted Radagast, initially, in his confusion.
SPEAR: Fruity soap goes end to front to form something much sharper.

ORCS (LOTS OF): Large stones, thrown about, lose the original fourth for them, (a multitude, parenthetically).
FINDUILAS: French finished, you hear, with Laurie Lee’s village? Mingling reveals her.

DEAGOL: No clearing around him.
EPIDEMIC: Like Covid, but the next category downwards.
AXE (GIMLI'S): Very cold place loses chariot of somewhere very hot (or so it sounds) to leave a weapon?
THEODEN: At that time, a song within him.
HOUND: Pester for an animal.
SILMARIL: Ledge containing French husband produces a shiny thing.

There is one error, which I will treat as an 'odd one out' - not a cause of death, but a cause of being rendered very poorly! - Carcharoth and a Silmaril.

Exactamundo!

Urwen 05-17-2021 12:49 PM

Now, I suppose it's some other book, cos Huan is the only named hound in the ME-verse...

Pervinca Took 05-17-2021 12:57 PM

It isn't a dog. It's a wolf. An unnamed one. A werewolf, I think.

Urwen 05-17-2021 12:59 PM

....


HAILED + R = Edrahil

Pervinca Took 05-17-2021 01:01 PM

CARCHAROTH: He’s fierce! Vehicle … scorch at great and troubling temperature!
ASPHYXIATION: Stone cat – proportion without direction, but noted. Why, we ask? And such spin, for an unpleasant way to go!
URWEN: She’s more innovative, with vowel switch and further revolution.
SNOWMANE: He’s sibilant immediately - sounds like a principal.
EDRAHIL: Greeted Radagast, initially, in his confusion.
SPEAR: Fruity soap goes end to front to form something much sharper.

ORCS (LOTS OF): Large stones, thrown about, lose the original fourth for them, (a multitude, parenthetically).
FINDUILAS: French finished, you hear, with Laurie Lee’s village? Mingling reveals her.

DEAGOL: No clearing around him.
EPIDEMIC: Like Covid, but the next category downwards.
AXE (GIMLI'S): Very cold place loses chariot of somewhere very hot (or so it sounds) to leave a weapon?
THEODEN: At that time, a song within him.
HOUND: Pester for an animal.
SILMARIL: Ledge containing French husband produces a shiny thing.

There is one error, which I will treat as an 'odd one out' - not a cause of death, but a cause of being rendered very poorly! - Carcharoth and a Silmaril.

And that's a wrap!

I think you both guessed the password, but G55 posted it first.

Urwen 05-17-2021 01:23 PM

Just an observation
 
You could have done Smeagol + Deagol if you used Aredhel + Javelin.

Pervinca Took 05-17-2021 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 732289)
You could have done Smeagol + Deagol if you used Aredhel + Javelin.

I couldn't have kept it to all initial letters, though.

Galadriel55 05-17-2021 05:59 PM

I've had a cool (read: daft) idea for a password brewing for a while... but I will need a day or two to write the clues properly. A wind is about to blow. Hold onto your hats.

Galadriel55 05-18-2021 10:03 AM

I have been working long, and not without
a good result, which I was keen to share
with you, my Password fellows. Yes, the clues
did not with scarlet mark the letters first,
but they were good clues, and I promise you
the password was not worse off for some shifts -
quite an enjoyable affair. Alas!
A sudden gust of wind had blown across
my writing desk - or maybe I just sneezed,
but, ‘f it’s the case, it was a mighty sneeze! -
and all the notes to all the clues were swept
in utter disarray from desk to floor.
From this horrific mess you must remake
of order semblance, and before you solve
the clues, you must assemble them yourselves
in proper order. Know, that every clue
contains two halves, two terms which must be joined
to see the hint in full, and only then,
together, they will point you in the way
of the solution to the clue, which lies
in what they have in common. Now, the clues
are six in total, making that twelve halves.
So let us see, what have we in this mix?


A girl and boy with ire danced around, but who is this? A girl… and yet a boy?

An evil elbow, in confusion’s rush, has lost its finish, hearing itself shushed.

Decrepit elder, senior, but mark: this one’s not senile, nor yet weak.

And yet another senior we see: mature, aged, venerable, elderly.

Among them giants, dragons fire-breathing, but also very ordinary beasts. Their owner is not haggard - or is he?

An adjective which means to say “debarred”...

...And yet another, to describe a whacker.

Hold fast: a tooth, lupine - all with an insect.

Erased? Not quite, but close enough to see.

I cannot say his name, but you’ll know him.

A royal hero from the other side exchanged directions for a single note, as well as half a dozen extra feet.

The other other side’s best friend, howbeit, took note, and more than one direction took - alas, becoming evil in the process.


1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.


To clarify the instructions to this madness: each “halfling” clue describes a word or concept, like normal password clues would. Those come in pairs, and once you match them up I will put them in the right position on the password itself. You use the pairs to find a single word, and that word is the final answer to the clue and will contain the password letter. The red letters are not always at the start of the word. The answers to the clues may be unusual in more than one way, but I have made no effort to try to make them tricky - they should be fairly straightforward to compensate for all the rest.


With that, I wish you all the best of luck
in reconstructing concepts from this mess.
But why the verse? The inspiration came
from one work, titled “Script of Leithian” -
this really has no bearing on the clues
except to make more difficult my life,
for, as the best of playwrights will decree:
iambic your pentameter must be.

Urwen 05-18-2021 11:52 AM

The only thing I found so far was Galadriel. Hope that helps someone...

Urwen 05-18-2021 12:04 PM

And another came to me


Quote:

Hold fast: a tooth, lupine - all with an insect: Grip, Fang, Wolf, Maggot
Though I don't see how that describes a single word

Urwen 05-18-2021 12:05 PM

Royal hero = Aragorn, I believe...

Galadriel55 05-18-2021 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 732304)
Royal hero = Aragorn, I believe...

You are correct, the royal hero is Aragorn. That is not the answer though.



GALADRIEL: A girl and boy with ire danced around, but who is this? A girl… and yet a boy?

An evil elbow, in confusion’s rush, has lost its finish, hearing itself shushed.

Decrepit elder, senior, but mark: this one’s not senile, nor yet weak.

And yet another senior we see: mature, aged, venerable, elderly.

Among them giants, dragons fire-breathing, but also very ordinary beasts. Their owner is not haggard - or is he?

An adjective which means to say “debarred”...

...And yet another, to describe a whacker.

MAGGOT'S PETS (Grip, Fang, Wolf): Hold fast: a tooth, lupine - all with an insect.

Erased? Not quite, but close enough to see.

I cannot say his name, but you’ll know him.

A royal hero from the other side exchanged directions for a single note, as well as half a dozen extra feet.

The other other side’s best friend, howbeit, took note, and more than one direction took - alas, becoming evil in the process.


1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.

Huinesoron 05-19-2021 01:36 AM

"Decrepit elder, senior" could be THEODEN - the clue has 'Mark' in it, and 'not senile, nor yet weak' could refer to his recovery after not being hit around the head by Gandalf.

'to describe a whacker' immediately makes me think BEATER, AKA Glamdring.

Loving the Elbow of Sauron in the second clue. ;)

hS

Pervinca Took 05-19-2021 02:38 AM

I thought of BEATER too. ;)

No further wisdom to impart, afraid. ;)

Urwen 05-19-2021 03:14 AM

Barred clue makes me think about the Ban of the Valar. Banned/Barred?

Bard?

Urwen 05-19-2021 03:18 AM

Quote:

I cannot say his name, but you’ll know him.
This clue intrigues me. The obvious answer is The Nameless Enemy, aka Sauron, but something tells me that's not it...

Urwen 05-19-2021 03:23 AM

Bear with me
 
ERASED>ERISED>MIRROR


pair that with clue 1, and voila.


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