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Pervinca Took 05-04-2020 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 723157)
Gorgoroth for 3?

Ah, no. You've taken an interesting, literal approach to the clue. A bit like Sam's Ring-vision in the Rankin-Bass ROTK! :D But subtler. I like the images it gave me. Mountains of ash, but with with vegetation struggling to thrive.

The clue is a cryptic one. Not a difficult one, though.

Pervinca Took 05-04-2020 05:53 AM

B: He’s a confused little creature!
GONDOR: Land of the vanished portal, they say. Take the second.
ROHAN: Here find a mountain ash, hollowed in the centre, where heartsease starts to grow. And take the second again.
KINDRED: A halfling? Not he of the rhyme, but one of his ….

VALES: Tumladen, Lossarnach, Ringlo, Blackroot, Anduin, Morgul.

It's a cryptic element. You just need the word 'heartsease' to start growing at the heart of the 'hollowed' rowan, so you just take the H.

(Sorry Huinesoron - did not see your post at first, as a new page began).

Urwen 05-04-2020 05:55 AM

Then why did you reveal it so soon?

Pervinca Took 05-04-2020 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 723161)
Then why did you reveal it so soon?

Because Huey had guessed it. See the last post on the last page. I didn't see it at first, because your Gorgoroth post had started a new page.

Pervinca Took 05-04-2020 06:13 AM

Here:

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Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 723158)
#3: A mountain ash is a Rowan (one of my favourite trees!), and 'hollowed in the centre' points towards ROHAN. I forget whose heartsease grew there - context suggests Merry?

hS


Urwen 05-04-2020 01:42 PM

The last one could be Bergil (confused gerbil)

Huinesoron 05-04-2020 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 723164)
The last one could be Bergil (confused gerbil)

Gerbil! Nice. I was thinking Bergil, but the only small animals I could think of were bugs and birds. "Brid? Maybe someone from Rohan?" My brain is not good with anagrams...

hS

Pervinca Took 05-04-2020 02:41 PM

BERGIL: Hes a confused little creature!
GONDOR: Land of the vanished portal, they say. Take the second.
ROHAN: Here find a mountain ash, hollowed in the centre, where heartsease starts to grow. And take the second again.
KINDRED: A halfling? Not he of the rhyme, but one of his .

VALES: Tumladen, Lossarnach, Ringlo, Blackroot, Anduin, Morgul.

Brid is an Irish name. I remember an actress called Brid Brennan.

But Bergil the Gerbil is our man (boy). Bet he got teased. No wonder he's so anxious to tell Pippin how tall he is!

And now, over to Urwen!

Urwen 05-05-2020 05:48 AM

Well, I am running out of cryptic elements I can use without repetitions, so have a non-cryptic puzzle.

1. Unfaithful. Paid the price.
2. A leap of fate.
3. One of the three known individuals to do this.
4. Betrayed by a living object.
5. A fallen one with a funny name.
6. Strangled by the second.
7. Shared a part of the birth name with a member of a different race.
8. When the living flame died out.
9. When you and your opponents kill each other off.
10. She got 'iced'.
11. Avoid pointy things at all costs.
12. Your house was blown down, literally.
13. Beware corrupted troops.
14. The chase was on; tragedy (or not)?

Pervinca Took 05-05-2020 05:55 AM

10. Poor Elenwe?

5. Lalaith, fallen from the plague, meaning laughter? (I don't think this one is right, but worth a shot).

13. Oathbreakers of Dunharrow?

Huinesoron 05-05-2020 06:21 AM

#14: Whatsisname that Turin accidentally killed. Saeros? Or is that someone from Dor-lomin? I know it's not Salgant, but I'm sure it starts with an S.

hS

Pervinca Took 05-05-2020 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 723258)
#14: Whatsisname that Turin accidentally killed. Saeros? Or is that someone from Dor-lomin? I know it's not Salgant, but I'm sure it starts with an S.

hS

It's definitely Saeros.

Urwen 05-05-2020 07:26 AM

1. Unfaithful. Paid the price.
2. A leap of fate.
3. One of the three known individuals to do this.
4. Betrayed by a living object.
5. A fallen one with a funny name.
6. Strangled by the second.
LALAITH: Shared a part of the birth name with a member of a different race.
8. When the living flame died out.
9. When you and your opponents kill each other off.
ELENWE: She got 'iced'.
11. Avoid pointy things at all costs.
12. Your house was blown down, literally.
13. Beware corrupted troops.
SAEROS: The chase was on; tragedy (or not)?

Pervinca Took 05-05-2020 07:53 AM

Is the password UNTIMELY DEATHS?

And 2 Nienor or Niniel?

And 4 Isildur, betrayed by the Ring to his death?

Urwen 05-05-2020 08:21 AM

Yes
 
U: Unfaithful. Paid the price.
NIENOR: A leap of fate.
T: One of the three known individuals to do this.
ISILDUR: Betrayed by a living object.
M: A fallen one with a funny name.
E: Strangled by the second.
LALAITH: Shared a part of the birth name with a member of a different race.
Y: When the living flame died out.

D: When you and your opponents kill each other off.
ELENWE: She got 'iced'.
A: Avoid pointy things at all costs.
T: Your house was blown down, literally.
H: Beware corrupted troops.
SAEROS: The chase was on; tragedy (or not)?

Huinesoron 05-05-2020 08:46 AM

Could the first T be Turin, with 'this' being suicide? The other two being... Nienor and Aredhel, maybe?

Speaking of the White Lady, could Aredhel Ar-Feiniel, who notably did not avoid a pointy thing, be A?

hS

Pervinca Took 05-05-2020 10:14 AM

I scored a fluke there, Urwen. Lalaith was my guess for number 5. Unless those clues are the wrong way round? Is there another Lalaith?

The reason I guessed so quickly was because I once used exactly the same password myself. Great minds think alike, eh? ;)

The javelin clue is brilliant - I couldn't figure what the pointy thing was at all!

Pervinca Took 05-05-2020 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 723280)
Could the first T be Turin, with 'this' being suicide? The other two being... Nienor and Aredhel, maybe?

Speaking of the White Lady, could Aredhel Ar-Feiniel, who notably did not avoid a pointy thing, be A?

hS

Don't forget Denethor - is it suicide in that sense if it's to save another?

Also, is Miriel 's death a suicide?

U - ULFANG, who betrayed the sons of Feanor?

And is M MORLEG?

Urwen 05-05-2020 10:31 AM

@Huey Nienor and Maedhros, actually.
@Pervinca Lalaith doesn't start with M....

Urwen 05-05-2020 10:32 AM

ULFANG: Unfaithful. Paid the price.
NIENOR: A leap of fate.
TURIN: One of the three known individuals to do this.
ISILDUR: Betrayed by a living object.
MORLEG: A fallen one with a funny name.
E: Strangled by the second.
LALAITH: Shared a part of the birth name with a member of a different race.
Y: When the living flame died out.

D: When you and your opponents kill each other off.
ELENWE: She got 'iced'.
AREDHEL: Avoid pointy things at all costs.
T: Your house was blown down, literally.
H: Beware corrupted troops.
SAEROS: The chase was on; tragedy (or not)?

Galadriel55 05-05-2020 01:28 PM

Urwen, a reminder to post / vote in the WW game! Day 1 is almost done!

Urwen 05-05-2020 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 723367)
Urwen, a reminder to post / vote in the WW game! Day 1 is almost done!


Well, considering you too don't play the game sometimes, I believe it's well within my rights not to play the game either. So quit badgering me, I do what I want, even if it inconveniences other people.


(That's you, btw. That's what you said in a nutshell.)

Pervinca Took 05-05-2020 02:07 PM

Urwen, who does Lalaith share a name with? Do you mean yourself? I know she shares it with a nearby stream or something, but I can't think of another character with that name.

Ah, there's a Werewolf game on? I thought the Password thread was a bit quiet! ;)

Urwen 05-05-2020 02:27 PM

She doesn't share a name with anyone, but rather a part of her birth name, not the whole name. If it makes sense.

Pervinca Took 05-05-2020 02:44 PM

She shares the last syllable, the 'maiden' suffix 'wen,' with lots of characters, one of them being the half-elven Arwen.

Urwen 05-05-2020 02:56 PM

Yeah, and Morwen and Nerwen as well. And she shares the first syllable of her name with Feanor. (Ur meaning fire/flame).

Urwen 05-05-2020 02:57 PM

Now I believe there are still some clues left that need solving.

Urwen 05-05-2020 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 723302)
Don't forget Denethor - is it suicide in that sense if it's to save another?

I'm also curious what you mean by this, as Denethor didn't try to save anyone - quite the opposite in fact.

Galadriel55 05-05-2020 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 723377)
Well, considering you too don't play the game sometimes, I believe it's well within my rights not to play the game either. So quit badgering me, I do what I want, even if it inconveniences other people.

Sure, you're just gonna be mod-fired from the game for non-participation. By all means. But you're welcome for the reminder, so you don't have to be kicked out. *shrug*


Is E - Ecthelion?

Urwen 05-05-2020 03:19 PM

Wouldn't it be nice if people were no longer allowed to participate in the quiz room if they didn't participate in one of the games there for more than a month? :cool:

Galadriel55 05-05-2020 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 723470)
Wouldn't it be nice if people were no longer allowed to participate in the quiz room if they didn't participate in one of the games there for more than a month? :cool:

You wish. Except those are the rules when you sign up for a WW game, and not the rules when you choose to participate in Quiz games. Don't like it, don't play. :smokin:


So is E Ecthelion?

Urwen 05-05-2020 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 723471)
You wish. Except those are the rules when you sign up for a WW game, and not the rules when you choose to participate in Quiz games. Don't like it, don't play. :smokin:


So is E Ecthelion?

I will not answer that question. You don't wish to play and would rather let the games die than play. Fine. Don't play. But don't expect me to indulge you when you decide to pop in every once in a blue moon either.

Call me rude and whatever, but you're the one whose deadset on letting this thread and every other game in the Quiz Room die through lack of participation.

Galadriel55 05-05-2020 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 723473)
I will not answer that question. You don't wish to play and would rather let the games die than play. Fine. Don't play. But don't expect me to indulge you when you decide to pop in every once in a blue moon either.

Call me rude and whatever, but you're the one whose deadset on letting this thread and every other game in the Quiz Room die through lack of participation.

In that case enjoy looking at your unsolved password. Again - *shrug*. You're just hurting yourself here.

Urwen 05-05-2020 03:45 PM

It's not Ecthelion.

Pervinca Took 05-05-2020 05:39 PM

Werewolf is different. It's in a different subforum and based around deadlines and different rules because that's how it works - with votes for who the werewolves are or something? And a compulsory vote every night? (As far as I can make out). It's a different beast (pun intended) and only works as a tight game, as far as I understand. Galadriel was posting a friendly reminder, not nagging.

I don't play Werewolf myself, because I tried it once and I simply couldn't get the hang of it. So I asked the mod to remove me about 1 day in.

Urwen 05-05-2020 05:51 PM

She was nagging. She plays the game once in a blue moon and is willing to let the quiz room die because she can't be bothered. Well, I can't be bothered to give her a response to her guess. Go ahead, castigate me for treating her like she treats me. I mean, if you're really okay with all the games in quiz room dying due to lack of participation, then okay...

Also could you answer this question please?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 723462)
I'm also curious what you mean by this, as Denethor didn't try to save anyone - quite the opposite in fact.


Pervinca Took 05-05-2020 06:01 PM

I was referring to Aredhel. She was trying to save Maeglin. Huey had said there were 3 including Aredhel and didn't name Denethor. I meant Denethor was a suicide, but I didn't think Aredhel was.

And making the point that I do see Denethor as a suicide, but was questioning whether what Aredhel does is really suicide. Her motive is not self-slaughter, but saving her son.

Urwen 05-05-2020 06:09 PM

So condemn me for having the nerve to try to keep these games active instead of letting them die, as you all seem kosher with.

And I see. When I said 'three', I was referring to Turin, Nienor and Maedhros. Also, some would say that the world would be a better place if she let him die. I disagree with that notion, of course. :cool:

Now try solving the rest of the clues, please.

Pervinca Took 05-06-2020 04:28 AM

The only 'time or day' word beginning with G that I remember offhand is YESTARE.

I got round the Y clue by having The Party Tree and saying 'sevdn pushbacks' (like on game show The Chase) whdn I did 'Untimely Deaths' as a password. The only one I couldn't manage initial letter for.

Urwen 05-06-2020 04:36 AM

Actually, 'Year [insert number here]' is what you're looking for. It's when a certain someone danced with three Balrogs.


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