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Urwen 03-31-2020 01:56 PM

Okay, for 8: Loved eel?

Pervinca Took 03-31-2020 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 722015)
You're most welcome. :)

1. - A Proudfoot, vacant but cut short by one and a bit, is wealthy.
2. - I hear you run before a herb, copper.
3. - A beast beyond the circle? I'm uncertain it's inscribed.
4. - Lend one ear to the shortest war, briefly and back, with a signet.
5. - Love lace and flatfish? Like a ring!
MIRIEL - A peaceful station in a flipped garland is a jewel.
7. - Race a saint indefinitely for a green jewel.
8. - A venerated elver - her, English? Heavy metal.
GLINDUR - Gee, Eastwood's topped and tailed (duh, you hear me?), but he's dark and tough.
10. - A title worn.
ELESSAR - He' not greater, but gifted.
12. - Listen: a pirate girl be backwards around silver.
MAGLOR - Between Béma and Glorfindel is gold.

hS

I was wondering if love meant O, like in tennis (where it is 'nought.')

Huinesoron 03-31-2020 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722040)
Okay, for 8: Loved eel?

Eel is correct. Venerated is being used in the technical sense here. And there is more to the cryptic clue. :)

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 722041)
I was wondering if love meant O, like in tennis (where it is 'nought.')

In #5? It's not, and you might want to split that clue up a little differently.

(It's also not if you're looking at a different clue.)

hS

Urwen 03-31-2020 03:05 PM

It could be Elestirne. It contains both 'eel' and 'tin'.

Urwen 03-31-2020 03:10 PM

10. Lord of da Rings? Rings are worn. And Frodo wore it on a chain, I believe. :D

Or, maybe 'Ringbearer'. A 'title' worn. Or born.

Pervinca Took 03-31-2020 03:29 PM

12. Guessing CELEBRIAN, simply because it has BE backwards and CELEB means silver.

Not that C before M bodes terribly well.

Huinesoron 03-31-2020 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722044)
It could be Elestirne. It contains both 'eel' and 'tin'.

This is where I find a picture of Edna from The Incredibles, but caption it "No anagrams!".

(No.)

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722046)
10. Lord of da Rings? Rings are worn. And Frodo wore it on a chain, I believe. :D

Or, maybe 'Ringbearer'. A 'title' worn. Or born.

Rings are worn, indeed, and yep, it's Mr. There Is Only One himself.

1. - A Proudfoot, vacant but cut short by one and a bit, is wealthy.
2. - I hear you run before a herb, copper.
3. - A beast beyond the circle? I'm uncertain it's inscribed.
4. - Lend one ear to the shortest war, briefly and back, with a signet.
5. - Love lace and flatfish? Like a ring!
MIRIEL - A peaceful station in a flipped garland is a jewel.
7. - Race a saint indefinitely for a green jewel.
8. - A venerated elver - her, English? Heavy metal.
GLINDUR - Gee, Eastwood's topped and tailed (duh, you hear me?), but he's dark and tough.
LORD OF THE RINGS - A title worn.
ELESSAR - He' not greater, but gifted.
12. - Listen: a pirate girl be backwards around silver.
MAGLOR - Between Béma and Glorfindel is gold.

Huinesoron 03-31-2020 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 722047)
12. Guessing CELEBRIAN, simply because it has BE backwards and CELEB means silver.

Not that C before M bodes terribly well.

You've actually interpreted both of those parts of the clue correctly, but the answer isn't right (and doesn't strictly contain CELEB, because Sindarin).

hS

Urwen 03-31-2020 03:40 PM

None of the synonyms for 'venerated' fit without anagramming them....

Huinesoron 03-31-2020 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722050)
None of the synonyms for 'venerated' fit without anagramming them....

Who is venerated?

hS

Urwen 03-31-2020 03:43 PM

Piggybacking off of Pervinca's guess: Telperien? :D

Urwen 03-31-2020 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 722051)
Who is venerated?

hS


A saint?

Pervinca Took 03-31-2020 03:45 PM

8. Steel? Or Steelsheen?

St + eel.

...

Oh!

St + eel + she + en?

Urwen 03-31-2020 04:03 PM

12. Argeleb (Yarr+Cele+Be backwards)

Huinesoron 03-31-2020 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 722054)
8. Steel? Or Steelsheen?

St + eel.

...

Oh!

St + eel + she + en?

There she is, the venerated Saint Eel (she EN).

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722055)
12. Argeleb (Yarr+Cele+Be backwards)

... is the right answer, though I was aiming at Ar-gel-[be backwards]. 'Silver' is the straight clue (in this case it's the lenited form of celeb, geleb).

1. - A Proudfoot, vacant but cut short by one and a bit, is wealthy.
2. - I hear you run before a herb, copper.
3. - A beast beyond the circle? I'm uncertain it's inscribed.
4. - Lend one ear to the shortest war, briefly and back, with a signet.
5. - Love lace and flatfish? Like a ring!
MIRIEL - A peaceful station in a flipped garland is a jewel.
7. - Race a saint indefinitely for a green jewel.
STEELSHEEN - A venerated elver - her, English? Heavy metal.
GLINDUR - Gee, Eastwood's topped and tailed (duh, you hear me?), but he's dark and tough.
LORD OF THE RINGS - A title worn.
ELESSAR - He' not greater, but gifted.
ARGELEB - Listen: a pirate girl be backwards around silver.
MAGLOR - Between Béma and Glorfindel is gold.

hS

Urwen 03-31-2020 04:41 PM

7. Run+St+???

Urwen 03-31-2020 04:50 PM

1. Odovacar (Odo+Vac (from Vacant cut short) + a (one)); he is rich.

Pervinca Took 04-01-2020 01:38 AM

Our names gleam? ;)

(Wild guess at the password). ;)

(On the slim offchance that I'm right, Urwen can have next go for getting most of the clues).

Huinesoron 04-01-2020 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722057)
7. Run+St+???

St. is right, but that's the wrong sort of race.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722058)
1. Odovacar (Odo+Vac (from Vacant cut short) + a (one)); he is rich.

Correct, but you didn't need 'one': just chop one and a half letters from Vacant to get Vacar.

(His name means 'Watchful Wealth', for the record.)

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 722060)
Our names gleam? ;)

(Wild guess at the password). ;)

(On the slim offchance that I'm right, Urwen can have next go for getting most of the clues).

And you are correct. I'm just glad it lasted more than half the letters; didn't my last one fall in two? :)

Five to go!

ODOVACAR - A Proudfoot, vacant but cut short by one and a bit, is wealthy.
2. U - I hear you run before a herb, copper.
3. R - A beast beyond the circle? I'm uncertain it's inscribed.
4. N - Lend one ear to the shortest war, briefly and back, with a signet.
5. A - Love lace and flatfish? Like a ring!
MIRIEL - A peaceful station in a flipped garland is a jewel.
7. E - Race a saint indefinitely for a green jewel.
STEELSHEEN - A venerated elver - her, English? Heavy metal.
GLINDUR - Gee, Eastwood's topped and tailed (duh, you hear me?), but he's dark and tough.
LORD OF THE RINGS - A title worn.
ELESSAR - He' not greater, but gifted.
ARGELEB - Listen: a pirate girl be backwards around silver.
MAGLOR - Between Béma and Glorfindel is gold.

hS

Pervinca Took 04-01-2020 07:04 AM

2. URUNDIL, meaning 'copper lover,' early sobriquet for Nerdanel's dad.

U + RUN + DIL(L).

Huinesoron 04-01-2020 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 722064)
2. URUNDIL, meaning 'copper lover,' early sobriquet for Nerdanel's dad.

U + RUN + DIL(L).

Precisely that, and a lifesaver when it came to spelling words; as Odovacar indicates, I was kind of hurting for vowels!

ODOVACAR - A Proudfoot, vacant but cut short by one and a bit, is wealthy.
URUNDIL - I hear you run before a herb, copper.
3. R - A beast beyond the circle? I'm uncertain it's inscribed.
4. N - Lend one ear to the shortest war, briefly and back, with a signet.
5. A - Love lace and flatfish? Like a ring!
MIRIEL - A peaceful station in a flipped garland is a jewel.
7. E - Race a saint indefinitely for a green jewel.
STEELSHEEN - A venerated elver - her, English? Heavy metal.
GLINDUR - Gee, Eastwood's topped and tailed (duh, you hear me?), but he's dark and tough.
LORD OF THE RINGS - A title worn.
ELESSAR - He' not greater, but gifted.
ARGELEB - Listen: a pirate girl be backwards around silver.
MAGLOR - Between Béma and Glorfindel is gold.

hS

Pervinca Took 04-01-2020 08:56 AM

I wonder if the race referred to in 7 could be the ELDAR, and the answer a name beginning with Eldar, such as Eldarion.

Urwen 04-01-2020 09:18 AM

Or Elfstan (Elf+St+An); 'an' being indefinite article.

Huinesoron 04-01-2020 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722070)
Or Elfstan (Elf+St+An); 'an' being indefinite article.

Spot on! I guess it's slightly cheeky to use a translation of another name in the password, but at least young Fairbairn is a separate character.

ODOVACAR - A Proudfoot, vacant but cut short by one and a bit, is wealthy.
URUNDIL - I hear you run before a herb, copper.
3. R - A beast beyond the circle? I'm uncertain it's inscribed.
4. N - Lend one ear to the shortest war, briefly and back, with a signet.
5. A - Love lace and flatfish? Like a ring!
MIRIEL - A peaceful station in a flipped garland is a jewel.
ELFSTAN - Race a saint indefinitely for a green jewel.
STEELSHEEN - A venerated elver - her, English? Heavy metal.
GLINDUR - Gee, Eastwood's topped and tailed (duh, you hear me?), but he's dark and tough.
LORD OF THE RINGS - A title worn.
ELESSAR - He' not greater, but gifted.
ARGELEB - Listen: a pirate girl be backwards around silver.
MAGLOR - Between Béma and Glorfindel is gold.

Just three to go!

hS

Pervinca Took 04-01-2020 10:48 AM

Ah, I thought of Elfstan but thought I'd already guessed Elfstone and not been told I was close.

And I had. But for a different clue. ;)

And I hadn't worked out what 'indefinitely' meant. Very clever!

3. RANA certainly gleams, but I'm not sure its name does. And is it technically 'beyond the circle(s)' of the world?

I was looking for something beginning with RAM for the beast, but no luck there.

Huinesoron 04-01-2020 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 722074)
Ah, I thought of Elfstan but thought I'd already guessed Elfstone and not been told I was close.

And I had. But for a different clue. ;)

I admit I had myself a little giggle over that one. ^_^

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 722074)
3. RANA certainly gleams, but I'm not sure its name does. And is it technically 'beyond the circle(s)' of the world?

I was looking for something beginning with RAM for the beast, but no luck there.

Not really on the right track at all. I will tell you that 'beyond' is a modifier on 'a beast', rather than on 'the circle'.

hS

Pervinca Took 04-01-2020 12:49 PM

Rochallor was a beast beyond most others, and his name *may* end in an element meaning 'gold.'

Huinesoron 04-01-2020 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 722076)
Rochallor was a beast beyond most others, and his name *may* end in an element meaning 'gold.'

That is a lovely answer, but no. The Beast is in English, and 'beyond' is a cryptic modifier.

... also there's no gold in this clue. ;)

hS

Pervinca Took 04-02-2020 03:59 AM

Your 'one and a half letters' was fiendishly clever.

Unfortunately I am not, and am still stuck for the moment. :D

However, I am going to try this clue:

5. A - Love lace and flatfish? Like a ring!

and guess ALATIRIEL, because:

a) It is certainly a 'gleaming' name - 'maiden crowned with a garland of radiance.'
b) It has TIE for 'lace.'
c) Errrrrr……
d) Ala is Quenya for plaice (the word for chips appears in the same song - it's Celeborn's favourite dish).

Urwen 04-02-2020 04:12 AM

And there is R for Ring and L for Love. And she craved the One Ring at one point.

Huinesoron 04-02-2020 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 722083)
5. A - Love lace and flatfish? Like a ring!

and guess ALATIRIEL, because:

a) It is certainly a 'gleaming' name - 'maiden crowned with a garland of radiance.'
b) It has TIE for 'lace.'
c) Errrrrr……
d) Ala is Quenya for plaice (the word for chips appears in the same song - it's Celeborn's favourite dish).

-_- You're a day late, but you managed to get me checking the Quenya wordlists for this one. Very clever.

Anyway, nope! 'Love lace' and 'flatfish' are both English references, and definitely not Tolkien ones. The straight clue actually has a certain Galadriel connection, though...

hS

Urwen 04-02-2020 04:17 AM

'The Beast' could be a reference to 'Beauty and the Beast'

And 'beyond' is 'trans'.

Urwen 04-02-2020 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 722087)
-_- You're a day late, but you managed to get me checking the Quenya wordlists for this one. Very clever.

Anyway, nope! 'Love lace' and 'flatfish' are both English references, and definitely not Tolkien ones. The straight clue actually has a certain Galadriel connection, though...

hS


Linda + Sole, maybe?

Pervinca Took 04-02-2020 04:20 AM

I'm thinking it's 'beyond' beast because it's a 'superbeast' - a magical or mythical one. Like a minotaur or centaur or something.

Why am I a day late, Huey?

Urwen 04-02-2020 04:23 AM

So....like a Dragon....?


*goes off to study Dragons*

Pervinca Took 04-02-2020 04:23 AM

5 is nowt to do with Robert Lovelace of Clarissa, I suppose?

Huinesoron 04-02-2020 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 722090)
Why am I a day late, Huey?

Because the day to trick people into thinking there was a Quenya word for 'plaice' was yesterday. -_-

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722088)
'The Beast' could be a reference to 'Beauty and the Beast'

And 'beyond' is 'trans'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 722090)
I'm thinking it's 'beyond' beast because it's a 'superbeast' - a magical or mythical one. Like a minotaur or centaur or something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722091)
So....like a Dragon....?

*goes off to study Dragons*

Nope; 'beyond' is just indicating where the words should be relative to each other. :)

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722089)
Linda + Sole, maybe?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 722092)
5 is nowt to do with Robert Lovelace of Clarissa, I suppose?

Not sole - and not that Lovelace, but most definitely a Lovelace.

hS

Urwen 04-02-2020 05:01 AM

Oh. Adamant (Ada + Mant(a ray)).

Pervinca Took 04-02-2020 05:56 AM

Or maybe Adamanta (Chubb), if all the answers are people? (No reason they should be, other than that they all have been so far).

(Thought of Adamant, but could not find the cryptic elements).

(Oh - of course, it's Galadriel's ring).

Huinesoron 04-02-2020 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 722097)
Or maybe Adamanta (Chubb), if all the answers are people? (No reason they should be, other than that they all have been so far).

(Thought of Adamant, but could not find the cryptic elements).

(Oh - of course, it's Galadriel's ring).

Ada manta it is (and as it happens, they are all people; the theme requires it). I didn't wind up using any of the other jewel-named Hobbits, but I was very glad to have them available.

ODOVACAR - A Proudfoot, vacant but cut short by one and a bit, is wealthy.
URUNDIL - I hear you run before a herb, copper.
3. R - A beast beyond the circle? I'm uncertain it's inscribed.
4. N - Lend one ear to the shortest war, briefly and back, with a signet.
ADAMANTA - Love lace and flatfish? Like a ring!
MIRIEL - A peaceful station in a flipped garland is a jewel.
ELFSTAN - Race a saint indefinitely for a green jewel.
STEELSHEEN - A venerated elver - her, English? Heavy metal.
GLINDUR - Gee, Eastwood's topped and tailed (duh, you hear me?), but he's dark and tough.
LORD OF THE RINGS - A title worn.
ELESSAR - He' not greater, but gifted.
ARGELEB - Listen: a pirate girl be backwards around silver.
MAGLOR - Between Béma and Glorfindel is gold.

Two to go! Neither are personal names; one is in English, the other... isn't. :D

hS


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