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Pervinca Took 06-17-2019 02:01 PM

DOTARD: One who might perform late in French?
URCHINS: Boys with fiery facial features?
NINNYHAMMER: Grond used as a crusher of nincompoops?
RAGTAG: Scrap of cloth and playground game return for this one.

THEME: TOLKIENIAN INSULTS

Feanor certainly doesn't always put those grey cells to the best use. So yes, I agree with you.

And now ... over to you!

Urwen 06-17-2019 02:32 PM

This password idea was given to me by one of Nerwen's remarks during her last riddle.


1. Messed up gaiety? Endlessly sick? Something you wear? See it!
2. People who are up to no good? Not in this case!
3. Two drinks form a flower.
4. A movie singer follows direction, and it appears!
5. Extremely dry with a vowel shift? Endless aid? Gather these for her.

Pervinca Took 06-17-2019 03:52 PM

3. Brandywine?

Urwen 06-17-2019 03:55 PM

1. Messed up gaiety? Endlessly sick? Something you wear? See it!
2. People who are up to no good? Not in this case!
BRANDYWINE: Two drinks form a flower.
4. A movie singer follows direction, and it appears!
5. Extremely dry with a vowel shift? Endless aid? Gather these for her.

Pervinca Took 06-17-2019 03:56 PM

5. Aredhel.

Arid - i + e + hel(p).

Urwen 06-17-2019 03:59 PM

1. Messed up gaiety? Endlessly sick? Something you wear? See it!
2. People who are up to no good? Not in this case!
BRANDYWINE: Two drinks form a flower.
4. A movie singer follows direction, and it appears!
AREDHEL: Extremely dry with a vowel shift? Endless aid? Gather these for her.

Pervinca Took 06-17-2019 04:12 PM

2. Outlaws? (Turin & Co?)

Urwen 06-17-2019 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 718492)
2. Outlaws? (Turin & Co?)


Doesn't fit with the theme. Think about your favorite character instead.

Pervinca Took 06-17-2019 11:42 PM

Ah, ok.

Conspirators?

Urwen 06-17-2019 11:51 PM

1. Messed up gaiety? Endlessly sick? Something you wear? See it!
CONSPIRATORS: People who are up to no good? Not in this case!
BRANDYWINE: Two drinks form a flower.
4. A movie singer follows direction, and it appears!
AREDHEL: Extremely dry with a vowel shift? Endless aid? Gather these for her.

Pervinca Took 06-18-2019 12:16 AM

All I can currently see is 'Voila!' ;)

Urwen 06-18-2019 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 718497)
All I can currently see is 'Voila!' ;)


When in doubt, turn to Elvish. ;)

Pervinca Took 06-18-2019 01:07 AM

That's what I was thinking. ;)

I think I need to figure out the theme first, though.

Urwen 06-18-2019 01:11 AM

I am sure you will figure it out. :)

Urwen 06-18-2019 03:21 AM

Theme hint:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 718090)
Highly debatable, I'd say. (And Maeglin's life was saved by his mother, actually, though that's neither here nor there.)

At any rate the person in question was certainly very badly disposed towards the other party.



Pervinca Took 06-18-2019 06:08 AM

Hmmm ...

Is it saving/sparing people? The Brandywine took Frodo's parents but spared him? He wasn't in the boat, though.

The Brandywine saves them from the Nazgul?

Pervinca Took 06-18-2019 08:48 AM

1. ERECH is an anagram of 'cheer '

Does the Stone of Erech finally free the Dead?

I can only offer S for endless 'sick,' though. :(

Urwen 06-18-2019 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 718503)
Hmmm ...

Is it saving/sparing people? The Brandywine took Frodo's parents but spared him? He wasn't in the boat, though.

The Brandywine saves them from the Nazgul?


It is saving people, or rather protecting them.

Pervinca Took 06-18-2019 12:00 PM

Mithril coat! MIRTH, and you wear it! And has the first two letters of ILL in it.

Urwen 06-18-2019 12:12 PM

MITHRIL COAT: 1. Messed up gaiety? Endlessly sick? Something you wear? See it!
CONSPIRATORS: People who are up to no good? Not in this case!
BRANDYWINE: Two drinks form a flower.
4. A movie singer follows direction, and it appears!
AREDHEL: Extremely dry with a vowel shift? Endless aid? Gather these for her.

Pervinca Took 06-18-2019 04:15 PM

Password: MOINA (= safe, secure).

Oh ... and N + ENYA = NENYA, which protects Lothlorien.

Also, was my reasoning for BRANDYWINE correct - protecting the hobbits from the Nazgul?

Urwen 06-18-2019 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 718509)
Password: MOINA (= safe, secure).

Oh ... and N + ENYA = NENYA, which protects Lothlorien.

Also, was my reasoning for BRANDYWINE correct - protecting the hobbits from the Nazgul?


Yes and yes and yes.

Urwen 06-18-2019 04:24 PM

MITHRIL COAT: Messed up gaiety? Endlessly sick? Something you wear? See it!
CONSPIRATORS: People who are up to no good? Not in this case!
BRANDYWINE: Two drinks form a flower.
NENYA: A movie singer follows direction, and it appears!
AREDHEL: Extremely dry with a vowel shift? Endless aid? Gather these for her.


THEME: PEOPLE/PLACES/THINGS THAT PROTECTED SOMETHING/SOMEONE FROM HARM

Urwen 06-18-2019 04:26 PM

Over to you.

Pervinca Took 06-19-2019 05:10 AM

Great clues, Urwen, and a very nice idea for a theme. :)

Here you are, then:

1. Edro! Or is it in Mordor's name?
2. Rossetti’s gentle exhortation. Or does it concern a looking-glass?
3. Uttered in Lothlorien. ‘Tis a winding path.
4. To do this or not is the question, thought Iluvatar.
5. I wonder, perplexed, at this urgency!
6. Pinter’s, Werenowska’s or Buffini’s? Whichever! Uttered by one at the Morannon.

EDIT: SO SORRY! I HAD MISSED OUT CLUE 1!

Huinesoron 06-19-2019 05:30 AM

3. "EA!" is glossed as "be" or "to be" (I guess it's an imperative)

5. Harold Pinter is a playwright; I vaguely remember doing something of his, but can't place what. It appears Nicola Werenowska is too, and they each have a play called "SILENCE"; I'm guessing that's a Gollum line.

hS

Pervinca Took 06-19-2019 06:09 AM

1. Edro! Or is it in Mordor's name?
2. Rossetti’s gentle exhortation. Or does it concern a looking-glass?
3. Uttered in Lothlorien. ‘Tis a winding path.
EA! To do this or not is the question, thought Iluvatar.
5. I wonder, perplexed, at this urgency!
SILENCE! Pinter’s, Werenowska’s or Buffini’s? Whichever! Uttered by one at the Morannon.

So has Buffini ... the only one I've seen! Great play. I only found out the other two had written a play with the same name when I googled to check the author.

'Silence!' is what Gandalf sternly says to Pippin when he springs forward with a cry of grief at the sight of Frodo's mithril coat. That is at the Morannon, I think?

First letters. Red when I have time. Lunch going cold!

EDIT: SO SORRY! I HAD MISSED OUT CLUE 1!

ANOTHER EDIT: hS, maybe you studied The Caretaker, or The Homecoming?

Huinesoron 06-19-2019 06:32 AM

All-New All-Different #1: "OPEN! In the name of Mordor!"

Are we on exclamations in general, or specifically imperatives?

hS

Pervinca Took 06-19-2019 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 718519)
All-New All-Different #1: "OPEN! In the name of Mordor!"

Are we on exclamations in general, or specifically imperatives?

hS

Trickssssssy, trying to get two guessesses in one possssst. ;)

Only kidding.

The latter.

Pervinca Took 06-19-2019 06:41 AM

OPEN! Edro! Or is it in Mordor's name?
2. Rossetti’s gentle exhortation. Or does it concern a looking-glass?
3. Uttered in Lothlorien. ‘Tis a winding path.
EA! To do this or not is the question, thought Iluvatar.
5. I wonder, perplexed, at this urgency!
SILENCE! Pinter’s, Werenowska’s or Buffini’s? Whichever! Uttered by one at the Morannon.

It's imperatives. :)

Urwen 06-19-2019 12:01 PM

2. Amend?

Pervinca Took 06-19-2019 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 718522)
2. Amend?

Nope.

Urwen 06-19-2019 12:43 PM

What does Rosetti clue mean, then?

Pervinca Took 06-19-2019 12:53 PM

Well, first tell me where you got 'Amend' from, and then I'll tell you if it's the right Rossetti.

Urwen 06-19-2019 01:21 PM

From here: https://books.google.rs/books?id=Qjc...tation&f=false

Pervinca Took 06-19-2019 02:57 PM

Well, right family. But that link mentions more than one of them.

The one you want is female.

Urwen 06-19-2019 03:01 PM

Christina Rossetti?

Pervinca Took 06-19-2019 03:14 PM

Yes. One of my favourite poets. But the clue refers to one of her most famous poems, and also to a particular Tolkien thing/happening.

Urwen 06-19-2019 03:16 PM

Rise?

Pervinca Took 06-19-2019 03:36 PM

That's not a poem I've heard of.


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