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Pervinca Took 08-19-2019 11:45 AM

FISH: Dish transforms, initially.
2. Deadly disease loses direction, note, for them.
YRCH: Why, we hear, is a curved top unsung for them?
4. Sounds like it has very little fat on it.

Y + (A)RCH (the note, A, is not sung).

Morsul the Dark 08-19-2019 05:27 PM

Based on the clues something more specific to food would possibly be FARE.

The two clues suggest things Gollum has eaten.

Pervinca Took 08-20-2019 01:16 AM

FISH: Dish transforms, initially.
???A???: Deadly disease loses direction, note, for them.
YRCH: Why, we hear, is a curved top unsung for them?
???E???: Sounds like it has very little fat on it.

THEME: THINGS GOLLUM EATS

Well done!

Urwen 08-20-2019 02:28 AM

Didn't know Gollum ate Orcs.....

Pervinca Took 08-20-2019 02:40 AM

'Goblin he thought good, when he could get it.'

Probably not after he lost the Ring, but only because he couldn't catch and throttle one whilst visible.

Morsul the Dark 08-20-2019 05:21 AM

The second one the closest I can get to an answer that makes sense is Rabbit from rabies minus E and S directions adding a B note where the t comes from Iím not sure other than logic....

Pervinca Took 08-20-2019 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark (Post 719844)
The second one the closest I can get to an answer that makes sense is Rabbit from rabies minus E and S directions adding a B note where the t comes from Iím not sure other than logic....

Nearly!

Uncannily, you chose the correct disease AND the correct note. But you need to keep the E and the S and put the note somewhere else.

Huinesoron 08-20-2019 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 719848)
Nearly!

Uncannily, you chose the correct disease AND the correct note. But you need to keep the E and the S and put the note somewhere else.

I believe this clue is slanderous, since it was never confirmed that Gollum was eating BABIES around Mirkwood...

hS

Pervinca Took 08-20-2019 09:35 AM

FISH: Dish transforms, initially.
BABIES: Deadly disease loses direction, note, for them.
YRCH: Why, we hear, is a curved top unsung for them?
???E???: Sounds like it has very little fat on it.

THEME: THINGS GOLLUM EATS

'A ghost that drank blood ... it crept into cradles and stole the young.'

Huinesoron 08-20-2019 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 719851)
'A ghost that drank blood ... it crept into cradles and stole the young.'

There could be dozens of ghost-like creatures in the Wild! :D:D:D

hS

Morsul the Dark 08-20-2019 03:36 PM

The last one is killing me

I keep screaming Eggs because he remembers teaching his grandmother to suck them which I assume is some way of eating them.

I literally doesnít fit.

Sounds like not a lot of fat.

Thin- Dinner
Lean- ??
Sleek- ???
Skinny- ???

Maybe he eats Piroline cookies

Pervinca Took 08-20-2019 04:21 PM

You're going to kick yourself. ;)

In fact, you've kind of mentioned the answer in a recent post, although for another clue.

Morsul the Dark 08-20-2019 05:15 PM

Coney might sound like kinny like skinny...

Pervinca Took 08-21-2019 12:34 AM

FISH: Dish transforms, initially.
BABIES: Deadly disease loses direction, note, for them.
YRCH: Why, we hear, is a curved top unsung for them?
CONEY: Sounds like it has very little fat on it.

THEME: THINGS GOLLUM EATS

Or it might sound like BONY. ;)

Over to you!

Urwen 08-21-2019 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 719855)
There could be dozens of ghost-like creatures in the Wild! :D:D:D

hS

I'd just like to point out this is true.

Pervinca Took 08-21-2019 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 719875)
I'd just like to point out this is true.

Written in a way to very heavily imply it was Gollum.

With no doubt *very heavily implied* tones and brow-wrinklings from Gandalf, who speaks those words.

Splitting hairs will get you nowhere. :p

Morsul the Dark 08-21-2019 05:41 AM

Boney.... "Of course, of course! Absurdly simple, like most riddles when you see the answer."

Iím working on one Iím worse at making these than I am at guessing and Iím bad at that so please hold your call is important to us.

Pervinca Took 08-21-2019 06:24 AM

It was you who made up a really good one with a password of MEAT & DRINK, wasn't it?

Morsul the Dark 08-21-2019 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 719878)
It was you who made up a really good one with a password of MEAT & DRINK, wasn't it?

It was I just looked it up again I was kind of clever in that one. Full disclosure I made this one based on a neat idea but the theme is forced to fit that idea.

1. Plymouth settler of a middling shade but a more common name.
2. Informally myself won’t then again myself seeing the back of a horse man. That’s one way to get over water.
3. A long trek for a soldier followed by the first American note. Akin to Washington or Jefferson.
4. Stretched but replacing the first of orange with the first of apple. With result of monsoons.
5. Take a puppet known for fire but the beginning is seen as the Weasel ‘s baboon foe. This should bring a vision of the answer.

1. GandalF
2. Iant IauR
3. MarchO
4. LangflooD
5. IrmO

Pervinca Took 08-21-2019 04:08 PM

5. The only thing 'puppet known for fire' is making me think of is the 1962-3 show 'Fireball XL5.'

Morsul the Dark 08-21-2019 04:13 PM

That’s a deep cut, but this is a puppet that shares a name with someone associated with fire. Might be more apparent if you’re into memes.

Edit: that clue also has the most obscure pop culture reference.

Pervinca Took 08-22-2019 12:43 AM

2. This would appear from the last sentence to be a bridge. How about IANT IAUR? It has I twice for myself x 2. 'Informally I won't' could be 'Ain't' moved round or 'I ant.' RU part of rump for back of horse? Not sure about the 'man' bit.

P.S. Happy birthday! :)

Urwen 08-22-2019 04:24 AM

I think that 5 begins with IR.

Morsul the Dark 08-22-2019 05:04 AM

Urwen gets the reference :)

And yes Iant Iaur is correct horse man Centaur, and thank you!

Pervinca Took 08-23-2019 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark (Post 719893)
Urwen gets the reference :)

And yes Iant Iaur is correct horse man Centaur, and thank you!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Weasel ?

Urwen 08-23-2019 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 719906)


That's the one.

Urwen 08-23-2019 03:30 AM

Maybe the theme is bridges, but none begins with IR.

Morsul the Dark 08-23-2019 05:26 AM

The theme isnít bridges. I donít want to give it away too much...
There are two passwords one at the start of the clues and one at the end. The theme is things they have in common or their races like I said I forced a theme to make the idea of two passwords work

Morsul the Dark 08-23-2019 07:36 AM

Iant Iaur is honestly the one shoehorned in the most

Huinesoron 08-23-2019 09:06 AM

Aha! Plymouth Colony was settled by the Pilgrims from the Mayflower, and a middling shade is grey. So #1 could be either GREY PILGRIM, or MITHRANDIR if you prefer the Sindarin.

For #3, a long trek may be a march. There's only a few things starting with March, and one of them is the surname MARCHBUCK, which ends with the first American currency unit available as a note.

Marchbuck is given by Tolkien as a more accurate translation of Brandagamba, the surname he translated Brandybuck in the books. I don't know what the Washington-Jefferson connection is, though.

hS

Morsul the Dark 08-23-2019 09:17 AM

Youíre close on the first. Use his most common name.

You went in deep on the March one. It does start with March. Think founding fathers.

Huinesoron 08-23-2019 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark (Post 719916)
Youíre close on the first. Use his most common name.

Well, y'know... GANDALF.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark (Post 719916)
You went in deep on the March one. It does start with March. Think founding fathers.

The obvious one to go with Washington and Jefferson would be Adams; after that I think Franklin and Hamilton are the two listed by Wikipedia as 'key', but who are also actually prominent in pop culture.

None of which gets me anywhere, since the only March- terms I can think of would involve Founding Fathers named Warden or Maedhros.

(I would move to the universe where the latter was true like a shot.)

hS

Pervinca Took 08-23-2019 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 719917)
Well, y'know... GANDALF.



The obvious one to go with Washington and Jefferson would be Adams; after that I think Franklin and Hamilton are the two listed by Wikipedia as 'key', but who are also actually prominent in pop culture.

None of which gets me anywhere, since the only March- terms I can think of would involve Founding Fathers named Warden or Maedhros.

(I would move to the universe where the latter was true like a shot.)

hS

Or Marcho and Blanco?

Morsul the Dark 08-23-2019 01:04 PM

Marcho one of the Shireís Founders
And yes Gandalf

Morsul the Dark 08-23-2019 01:05 PM

Quoting to keep visible without backtracking
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark (Post 719881)
It was I just looked it up again I was kind of clever in that one. Full disclosure I made this one based on a neat idea but the theme is forced to fit that idea.

1. Plymouth settler of a middling shade but a more common name.
2. Informally myself wonít then again myself seeing the back of a horse man. Thatís one way to get over water.
3. A long trek for a soldier followed by the first American note. Akin to Washington or Jefferson.
4. Stretched but replacing the first of orange with the first of apple. With result of monsoons.
5. Take a puppet known for fire but the beginning is seen as the Weasel Ďs baboon foe. This should bring a vision of the answer.

1. GandalF
2. Iant IauR
3. MarchO
4.
5.


Pervinca Took 08-23-2019 02:28 PM

Gimli and Frodo?

Morsul the Dark 08-23-2019 04:31 PM

But of course

The bridge is said to be built by dwarfs. Shire founder. Gandalf is of course connected to both. The final two clues can be connected to both. One clue more directly than the other.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark (Post 719881)
It was I just looked it up again I was kind of clever in that one. Full disclosure I made this one based on a neat idea but the theme is forced to fit that idea.

1. Plymouth settler of a middling shade but a more common name.
2. Informally myself won’t then again myself seeing the back of a horse man. That’s one way to get over water.
3. A long trek for a soldier followed by the first American note. Akin to Washington or Jefferson.
4. Stretched but replacing the first of orange with the first of apple. With result of monsoons.
5. Take a puppet known for fire but the beginning is seen as the Weasel ‘s baboon foe. This should bring a vision of the answer.

1. GandalF
2. Iant IauR
3. MarchO
4. L*******D
5. IrmO


Pervinca Took 08-24-2019 03:40 AM

It's hard to see how 5 could be anything other than IRMO.

So I'll have a shot ... his other name is LORIEN ... so is his land and a land greatly revered by GIMLI.

And FRODO needed the gardens of LORIEN in Valinor in order to fully heal?

Morsul the Dark 08-24-2019 04:36 AM

Sure, letís go with that. Because itíd be embarrassing if I thought he lived in Lorien meaning Lothlorien where Frodo and Gimli both traveled through.

Pervinca Took 08-24-2019 06:10 AM

He might. Sneaky devils, those Valar. But anyway, Gimli sailed West and near to Valinor too.

I think the final one is LANGSTRAND. Long strand with O changed to A, as per the fruity hints. Was Langstrand known for monsoons? Or just sea spray?

I guess Gimli and Frodo both crossed the Langstrand at some point?

Which two puppets make up IRMO, Morsul?


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