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Urwen 05-14-2019 10:34 AM

Could the password be ERENDIS

Pervinca Took 05-14-2019 10:39 AM

No to Aredhel.

No to the theme. (That would be VERY broad!)

Pervinca Took 05-14-2019 10:41 AM

No to Erendis.

MENELDUR: Repair and reign through turmoil, he does. Move along one.
2. Back number thirteen. Initially lose trust, but replace with direction. See her!
3. She reforms one long-serving prisoner.
4. A dwarf sickens, but is restored by her.
5. No ease of the womb, we hear. At sixes and sevens, he is.
6. He arranged a note of complaint.
7. Was she heard to mock or gloat at the time?

Urwen 05-14-2019 10:41 AM

No comment regarding this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 716644)
There is only one Meneldur, the King of Numenor, though. There are no other people who bore that name.


Urwen 05-14-2019 10:43 AM

Well, let's see. Since Meneldur is the only individual with that name, and he is connected to Numenor, and you said the theme has nothing to do with Numenor, and that he named himself after the sky, something tells me that the theme is individuals named after celestial objects.

Pervinca Took 05-14-2019 10:44 AM

I have already commented on it! It is not names only used once.

Try guessing some more clues!

EDIT: And no, not people named after celestial objects.

Urwen 05-14-2019 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 716652)
I have already commented on it! It is not names only used once.

Try guessing some more clues!


Okay, but my confusion stems from the fact that the theme has nothing to do with Numenor, since there is only one Meneldur, and he is connected to Numenor.....

Pervinca Took 05-14-2019 10:47 AM

But guessing themes is really a thing to do when you have a few answers and can see connections, isn't it? I think it's more fun that way, anyhow.

Urwen 05-14-2019 10:52 AM

Notes: A B C D E F G

Urwen 05-14-2019 10:55 AM

I'm thinking that for 2, we need to reverse number thirteen.

Pervinca Took 05-14-2019 11:03 AM

I had actually forgotten how that clue worked, because of being unable to access my pre-written passwords for a while and having to write new ones. But I thought for a while and then remembered.

It isn't by reversing thirteen. ;)

Urwen 05-14-2019 11:13 AM

Do we need to find another word for back and for thirteen? I found only one synonym for thirteen, and it's 'long dozen'. And the only names containing Z are those adunaic names, like Zimraphel. Except that the puzzle has no Numenorean connection.

Pervinca Took 05-14-2019 11:17 AM

No word for back needed, and not a synonym of thirteen.

Don't want to give this away just yet - try another clue, perhaps?

EDIT … or … try the second part of the clue first.

Urwen 05-14-2019 11:20 AM

Initially lose trust means LT. If we replace that with direction, we get LD.

Urwen 05-14-2019 11:24 AM

Elfhild? (ELHI + F + LD)

Urwen 05-14-2019 11:27 AM

And I would try another clue, but all of them are just as confusing as this one, except for the Meneldur clue.

And there just happens to be a Feanor-centric storytelling masterpiece that I'm rather engrossed in, so I think I will lurk about for a while and let others try.

Pervinca Took 05-14-2019 11:42 AM

Sure, no problem. Once one or two more are guessed, the rest will probably tumble.

Urwen 05-14-2019 11:56 AM

So my Elfhild guess is not correct, I take it. Does the name still end with LD?

Pervinca Took 05-14-2019 12:20 PM

Not LD and not Elfhild.

Not trust, but a synonym of it.

Urwen 05-14-2019 12:25 PM

But it also says 'initially' which implies an acronym.

Urwen 05-14-2019 12:25 PM

Also, where is everyone else?

Urwen 05-14-2019 01:02 PM

BELIEF as synonym for TRUST

Urwen 05-14-2019 01:03 PM

or FAITH?

Urwen 05-14-2019 01:05 PM

Also, no one else is willing to try despite the fact that I apologized in public, and having more people participating makes it more enjoyable. *makes frustrated noises*

Pervinca Took 05-14-2019 01:47 PM

One of those is correct.

Maybe they just aren't around. The thread is often quiet for a while. It once stopped entirely for a whole year!

Urwen 05-14-2019 01:58 PM

That means that FAITH loses T, but gains D for direction.

Pervinca Took 05-14-2019 02:18 PM

Faith is right. The direction is not.

Urwen 05-14-2019 02:27 PM

13 looks like LE when transmuted to letters. First letter of faith is F. First letters of four directions are N, S, E, and W. The trouble is combining these into something coherent.

Urwen 05-14-2019 02:44 PM

Firiel

F - Faith
IE - 13 transmuted into letters
R - direction
IL - For 'Initially lost'

If you move those letters around, they spell FIRIEL

Urwen 05-14-2019 02:48 PM

4 is Gilmith (from GIMLI)

Urwen 05-14-2019 02:54 PM

And these make me think that these are all connected to people of Gondor, for Lords of Andunie were descendants of Silmarien, Meneldur's sister. And in turn, Gondorian Kings were descended from Lords of Andunie.

This means that Silmarien must be an answer to one of the clues.

Pervinca Took 05-14-2019 03:49 PM

2 is not Firiel. 4 is not Gilmith.

Not lords of Andunie.

13 is not LE.

Urwen 05-14-2019 04:02 PM

Then I give up. :(

I can't think of anything else.

These last few passwords (with exceptions of my own) are too tough for me....sorry.....

(Unless you provide some small clues, that is)

P.S: Clues are supposed to be simple and help us solve it, not confound us further. At least that's what I believe.....

Urwen 05-14-2019 04:05 PM

There are too many things that fit and yet don't fit, and too many synonyms to pursue a clear line of thinking.

Can you at least tell me what 'number thirteen' means?

Pervinca Took 05-14-2019 04:15 PM

But your plant fibre clue was horrendously difficult! And I couldn't solve William's last puzzle at all!

Let's see if Huey or William can work out what 13 means.

I don't want to give the answers away until others have had a chance. Otherwise there's no point in writing challenging clues.

Pervinca Took 05-14-2019 04:22 PM

I'm sure the others are just busy, or away for a day or two. That's one reason I don't post much in Books. I haven't time to respond in depth to the discussions. Solving individual clues takes far less time and I enjoy it anyway, and I can generally write a set of clues quickly once I get an idea.

Urwen 05-14-2019 04:23 PM

Fine, then I will make super challenging clues when my next turn comes, and I will give no help whatsoever to any of you. Treat others how you want to be treated and all that.

Urwen 05-14-2019 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 716683)
I'm sure the others are just busy, or away for a day or two. That's one reason I don't post much in Books. I haven't time to respond in depth to the discussions. Solving individuals clues takes far less time and I enjoy it anyway, and I can generally write a set of clues quickly once I get an idea.

No, they are not. At least three puzzles have come and gone, and only William, me and you were around to solve them. Huinesoron and G55 have gone MIA, so I won't expect them to chime in if I were you.

Pervinca Took 05-14-2019 04:26 PM

Be fair. Let the others at least have a go, then I will give further help.

Urwen 05-14-2019 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 716686)
Be fair. Let the others at least have a go, then I will give further help.

It would be at least a year before Huinesoron/G55 decide to 'have a go'. What are we supposed to in the meantime? I mean, there is only so much William and I could do.....


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